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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Continous build errors

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Quoting Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...>:

> Quoting KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>:
>
>>
>> If I'm understanding you correctly you are updating tar inside the LFS
>> system.  So I should download the lfssystem again correct?  Or did you just
>> update the tar installer and I need to download that from the source
>> directory on your ftp server?
>
> I updated the tar binary in the lfssystem, since all other approaches
> would have been to complicated.
> I did not upload anything yet, I want to first make sure it really
> solves the issue.
>
> I changed the build environment, so that it will error out if the old
> lfssystem is used.
> I won't upload/check in anything before tomorrow.
>
> For now all the changes apply to 1.2 only.

The postgresql compile finished with the new tar.
I uploaded updates to the build system to CVS already and the new  
lfssystem tarball is on it's way. The upload should be finished about  
half an hour after I sent this email.

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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Continous build errors

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Quoting KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>:

>
> If I'm understanding you correctly you are updating tar inside the LFS
> system.  So I should download the lfssystem again correct?  Or did you just
> update the tar installer and I need to download that from the source
> directory on your ftp server?

I updated the tar binary in the lfssystem, since all other approaches  
would have been to complicated.
I did not upload anything yet, I want to first make sure it really  
solves the issue.

I changed the build environment, so that it will error out if the old  
lfssystem is used.
I won't upload/check in anything before tomorrow.

For now all the changes apply to 1.2 only.

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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Continous build errors

[KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>]

If I'm understanding you correctly you are updating tar inside the LFS
system.  So I should download the lfssystem again correct?  Or did you just
update the tar installer and I need to download that from the source
directory on your ftp server?

-Kyle



Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> 
> Quoting KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>:
> 
>>
>> Heiko,
>>
>> I give my VMs 16GB of space so the space should be ok.  I also check the
>> space (using df) throughout the process and I've always got about 4-5 GB
>> free (even after an unpack).
> 
> OK good.
> 
>> For the file length, do you think this could be a filesystem limitation?
>> I'm using ext3 on all my partitions.
> 
> No it seems to be a problem with tar.
> I just updated tar in the lfssystem and have a test compile running.
> Doubt that I'll have results before tomorrow.
> 
>> I will post back again after I try the steps you outlined below and then
>> I'll post back.
> 
> Okay sounds good.
> 
> 
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Continous build errors

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Quoting KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>:

>
> Heiko,
>
> I give my VMs 16GB of space so the space should be ok.  I also check the
> space (using df) throughout the process and I've always got about 4-5 GB
> free (even after an unpack).

OK good.

> For the file length, do you think this could be a filesystem limitation?
> I'm using ext3 on all my partitions.

No it seems to be a problem with tar.
I just updated tar in the lfssystem and have a test compile running.
Doubt that I'll have results before tomorrow.

> I will post back again after I try the steps you outlined below and then
> I'll post back.

Okay sounds good.


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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Continous build errors

[KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>]

Heiko,

I give my VMs 16GB of space so the space should be ok.  I also check the
space (using df) throughout the process and I've always got about 4-5 GB
free (even after an unpack).

For the file length, do you think this could be a filesystem limitation? 
I'm using ext3 on all my partitions.

I will post back again after I try the steps you outlined below and then
I'll post back.

Thanks,
Kyle



Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> the compile problem with postgresql is real, I have it too.
> What I found so far on the web is that tar is not able to extract all  
> the files because some of the file names are too long.
> I'm working on a solution, but it may take a little bit.
> I'd suggest running a "make mrproper unpack prepare" and then manually  
> compiling and installing the tar which is in tmp/tar-xxxxx
> Then start over with the "make mrproper".
> 
> Also always make sure you got more then enough disk space available,  
> since the compile uses quite a bit.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Regards
>    Heiko Zuerker
>    http://www.devil-linux.org
> 
> Quoting KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>:
> 
>>
>> Thank you for your speedy reply.
>>
>> Yes, I have tried building on different physical hosts as follows:
>> Machine #1: Dell machine with hyperthreading p4.  Not sure of motherboard
>> specs.  1 GB of ram.
>> Machine #2: Personal PC.  Uses P5k-VM (asus) board.  Q6600 processor.  4
>> GB
>> of ram.
>> Virtual Environment: Tried both "IDE" and "SCSI" host adapters with VMs.
>> Gave each VM around 512-768 MB of ram and 2 cores of my CPU.
>> Note: Both the physical machines and the VMs all had more than 1 logical
>> cpu
>> core.  Not sure if that helps.
>>
>> As a programmer myself (not linux of course) I always try process of
>> elimination and duplication when I stumble onto a problem.  I have tried
>> so
>> many variations (hosts, drive types, config types) at this point I feel I
>> must be missing something on a basic level.
>>
>> As you have requested I wll continue to only use the default config. 
>> That
>> way we can just try to get devil to compile with nothing but the basic
>> setup
>> to help determine my problem.  Also, if you would like a copy of any of
>> the
>> VM's I have created please let me know.  I can 7zip them and host them
>> for
>> you to download if you'd like to boot them up and see them directly.
>>
>> Thank you again for your help.
>> Kyle Harper
>>
>>
>> Heiko Zuerker wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> it sounds like you're doing everything right.
>>> Did you try to compile on different physical hosts or was it always
>>> the same machine? With a compile this big you sometimes find hardware
>>> problems you would never stumbled over otherwise.
>>>
>>> When you test, work with the default config for now.
>>>
>>> I'm going to kick off a fresh compile on my build machine, to make
>>> sure I didn't introduce a bug with the last update (when I added
>>> 2.4.36.6).
>>>
>>> cu
>>>    Heiko
>>>
>>> Quoting KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been experiencing a great deal of trouble getting devil-linux to
>>>> build
>>>> properly.  I am able to get the LFS system going, get the sources and
>>>> unpack
>>>> them, get the config set up, run prepare just fine, but I receive many
>>>> build
>>>> errors.  I have tried several configurations, thinking I messed
>>>> something
>>>> up.  As follows:
>>>>
>>>> --Attempt #1--
>>>> Host OS: Ubuntu 8.0.4 (fresh install) on a Virtual Machine (VMWare)
>>>> LFS: LFSSystem for DL 1.0 and up
>>>> Building Version: 1.2.x
>>>> Install location: All default and according to documentation
>>>> (/usr/src/lfssystem)
>>>> Modifications: Deselected most in config and added sudosh.
>>>> Problems: Reached linux-2.4.36.6 build and it failed.  Upon reading the
>>>> log
>>>> in tmp/LOGS/build/linux it was having some trouble finding the
>>>> /etc/lilo/install file/folder.
>>>>
>>>> --Attempt #2--
>>>> Same as Attempt #1 except I didn't change anything in the config (I did
>>>> enter config though, to create the config file with defaults).  Also I
>>>> did
>>>> not add sudosh.  I just followed the instructions verbatim.
>>>> Problems: Reached linux-2.4.36.6 build and it failed.  Reading log
>>>> again
>>>> showed an error with /etc/lilo/install file/folder.
>>>>
>>>> --Attempt #3--
>>>> Same thing as Attempt #2 except I used a REAL system, not a VM. 
>>>> Followed
>>>> the steps verbatim.
>>>> Problems: Reached postgresql build and it failed (error log showed "No
>>>> rule
>>>> to make target utf8_and_euc_jis_2004.0, needed by
>>>> 'libutf8_and_euc_jis_2004.so.0.0").  Manually ran the configure and
>>>> make
>>>> (inside the chroot environment) and it build successfully.  I added the
>>>> .done_build_postgresql and continued on.  Then I reached linux-2.4.36.6
>>>> and
>>>> received a plethora of errors about being unable to find a function (if
>>>> I
>>>> remember correctly) called __guard and __stack_smasher.
>>>>
>>>> --Attemp #4--
>>>> Thinking the problem could be with Ubuntu I switched to Mandriva (fresh
>>>> install).  Followed all steps verbatim again.
>>>> Problems: Reached postgresql build with errors again (same error
>>>> message
>>>> as
>>>> in attempt #3).
>>>>
>>>> Please note that on attempt #1 and #2 I tried wiping out the LFS
>>>> system,
>>>> running mrproper, and getting sources and preparing again.  No luck.
>>>> Also,
>>>> I checked for things like Pax and GRSecurity and couldn't find any
>>>> indication of them (since your site said you can't compile devil with
>>>> those
>>>> on the host OS).
>>>>
>>>> I've ready several forums where the problem has been user-side and
>>>> after
>>>> a
>>>> quick change everything runs great.  From looking at the system for
>>>> many
>>>> many hours I believe it is very user friendly.  So I might just be a
>>>> tool
>>>> here, but any advice on what to try would be greatly appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> If you need any more information just let me know.  I've tried to
>>>> include
>>>> as
>>>> much as I can recall.  If you need me to use another host OS or
>>>> whatever
>>>> I
>>>> have both virtual (VMWare) and physical (good ole fashioned HD) systems
>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Kyle Harper
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Regards
>>>    Heiko Zuerker
>>>    http://www.devil-linux.org
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Reverse Proxying with Devil Linux

[Kilponen P. <pek...@ja...>]

Hello,

I got squid working now, with a slightly modified script.

It was missing a group and others' execute bit in rewrite proc,
stupid error sorry.

So I stick with squid now.
The rewrite script is now like this:

#!/usr/bin/perl -p
BEGIN { $|=1; }
s%^http://www.company.com%http://www.company.vpn% && next;

One line can be added per backend

Brgs, Pekka



> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li... [mailto:devil-
> lin...@li...] On Behalf Of Kilponen
> Pekka
> Sent: 24. kesäkuuta 2008 16:32
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Reverse Proxying with Devil Linux
>
> Thanks Björn,
>
> My needs are very similar than you have,
> one http address (no ssl though) serves external network using
> multiple backend servers from internal network like they were
> in one server. Reverse proxy and url rewriting.
> Different backends for each urlgroup.
>
> However our system is not an enterprise level critical system,
> so I would like stick into simpler solutions. Earlier I used pound and
> I liked
> it because it is so simple and nothing more than what I needed.
>
> However if your system is easy to setup and administrated
> - high-availability would not hurt.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pekka Kilponen
>
> From: dev...@li... [mailto:devil-
> lin...@li...] On Behalf Of "Rudner,
> Björn"
> Sent: 24. kesäkuuta 2008 12:26
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Reverse Proxying with Devil Linux
>
> Hello Pecca,
>
> I'm using reverse-Proxy Loadbalanced with heartbeat and ldirector based
> on Devil-Linux now since some years.
>
> In the beginning I also tried pound and had some custom build including
> it.
>
> I never really got lucky with pound since there where some things
> missing I really needed so I finally got to Apache (using worker MPM,
> mod_proxy, mod_proxy_balancer, and the Caching (mainly Disk-Caching
> since Memcaching had some strange errors in the beginning)
>
> I never had tested squid, so I cant tell something about that.
>
> What I needed was:
>
> Have one Domain: www.example.tld with SSL
> have multiple Applications accessible from that domain:
>
> https://www.example.tld/App1 goes to an IIS-Backend-Server
> https://www.example.tld/App2 goes to an Apache-Backend-Server
> (Loadbalanced on 4 App-Servers)
> https://www.example.tld/App3 goes to an Servlet-Server
>
> and so on ...
>
> If this is kind of what you need I could show you what I have done to
> get this running solid and fast.
>
> I'm unsing an custom-build DL 1.3.x with 2 Nodes:
> shorewall - host-firewall
> heartbeat / ldirector - failover + active/passive loadbalancing
> (routed)
> apache (worker) - active/active loadbalancing, session-sticky for both
> cluster-nodes, SSL-Breakup and proxieing to different Applications and
> different App-Servers, local disk-Caching.
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Kind regards,
>
> Björn Rudner
> Administrator
>
> phone: +49 (89) 930 839-16
> pers. fax.: 01805-456 987-200 16
> mobile: +49 (151) 121 623 71
> e-mail: br...@ba...
> ________________________________________
> Von: dev...@li... [devil-linux-
> dis...@li...] im Auftrag von Kilponen Pekka
> [pek...@ja...]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2008 09:59
> An: dev...@li...
> Betreff: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Reverse Proxying with Devil Linux
> Hello,
>
> I would like to build a reverse proxy with Devil-Linux. I currently run
> version 1.2.13.
>
> I tried it with squid:
> - Errors with url rewriter proc, they keep crashing. My url rewriter
> proc is a simple perl script that
> works on commandline as planned. From squid result is this :
> "FATAL: The url_rewriter helpers are crashing too rapidly, need help!"
>
> Script is simple:
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> $|=1;
> use strict;
>
> while (<>) {
>   s[^http://test.company.com/]
>     [http://internal.company.vpn/];
>   print;
> }
>
> I cannot figure out why this simple script keeps crashing when it is
> run by squid but works on
> command line.
>
> Next I tried with apache:
> - mod_proxy_html is missing, it is needed at least in examples shown in
> http://www.apachetutor.org/admin/reverseproxies .
>
> Earlier I had a separate computer that had pound
> http://www.apsis.ch/pound running.
> Pound is not included in Devil-Linux. Pound, I think would be the
> simples and cleanest alternative,
> running reverse proxy with squid or apache is like using 1% of their
> functions.
> Pound is simply just what reverse proxy is. (Including load balancer
> too).
>
> What kind of solutions you have implemented when you do reverse proxy
> on Devil-Linux?
>
> Best Regards,
> Pekka Kilponen
>
>
>
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Reverse Proxying with Devil Linux

[Kilponen P. <pek...@ja...>]

Thanks Björn,

My needs are very similar than you have,
one http address (no ssl though) serves external network using
multiple backend servers from internal network like they were
in one server. Reverse proxy and url rewriting.
Different backends for each urlgroup.

However our system is not an enterprise level critical system,
so I would like stick into simpler solutions. Earlier I used pound and I liked
it because it is so simple and nothing more than what I needed.

However if your system is easy to setup and administrated
- high-availability would not hurt.

Regards,

Pekka Kilponen

From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of "Rudner, Björn"
Sent: 24. kesäkuuta 2008 12:26
To: dev...@li...
Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Reverse Proxying with Devil Linux

Hello Pecca,

I'm using reverse-Proxy Loadbalanced with heartbeat and ldirector based on Devil-Linux now since some years.

In the beginning I also tried pound and had some custom build including it.

I never really got lucky with pound since there where some things missing I really needed so I finally got to Apache (using worker MPM, mod_proxy, mod_proxy_balancer, and the Caching (mainly Disk-Caching since Memcaching had some strange errors in the beginning)

I never had tested squid, so I cant tell something about that.

What I needed was:

Have one Domain: www.example.tld with SSL
have multiple Applications accessible from that domain:

https://www.example.tld/App1 goes to an IIS-Backend-Server
https://www.example.tld/App2 goes to an Apache-Backend-Server (Loadbalanced on 4 App-Servers)
https://www.example.tld/App3 goes to an Servlet-Server

and so on ...

If this is kind of what you need I could show you what I have done to get this running solid and fast.

I'm unsing an custom-build DL 1.3.x with 2 Nodes:
shorewall - host-firewall
heartbeat / ldirector - failover + active/passive loadbalancing (routed)
apache (worker) - active/active loadbalancing, session-sticky for both cluster-nodes, SSL-Breakup and proxieing to different Applications and different App-Servers, local disk-Caching.



Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Kind regards,

Björn Rudner
Administrator

phone: +49 (89) 930 839-16
pers. fax.: 01805-456 987-200 16
mobile: +49 (151) 121 623 71
e-mail: br...@ba...
________________________________________
Von: dev...@li... [dev...@li...] im Auftrag von Kilponen Pekka [pek...@ja...]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2008 09:59
An: dev...@li...
Betreff: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Reverse Proxying with Devil Linux
Hello,

I would like to build a reverse proxy with Devil-Linux. I currently run version 1.2.13.

I tried it with squid:
- Errors with url rewriter proc, they keep crashing. My url rewriter proc is a simple perl script that
works on commandline as planned. From squid result is this :
"FATAL: The url_rewriter helpers are crashing too rapidly, need help!"

Script is simple:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
$|=1;
use strict;

while (<>) {
  s[^http://test.company.com/]
    [http://internal.company.vpn/];
  print;
}

I cannot figure out why this simple script keeps crashing when it is run by squid but works on
command line.

Next I tried with apache:
- mod_proxy_html is missing, it is needed at least in examples shown in http://www.apachetutor.org/admin/reverseproxies .

Earlier I had a separate computer that had pound http://www.apsis.ch/pound running.
Pound is not included in Devil-Linux. Pound, I think would be the simples and cleanest alternative,
running reverse proxy with squid or apache is like using 1% of their functions.
Pound is simply just what reverse proxy is. (Including load balancer too).

What kind of solutions you have implemented when you do reverse proxy on Devil-Linux?

Best Regards,
Pekka Kilponen



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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Continous build errors

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Hey,

the compile problem with postgresql is real, I have it too.
What I found so far on the web is that tar is not able to extract all  
the files because some of the file names are too long.
I'm working on a solution, but it may take a little bit.
I'd suggest running a "make mrproper unpack prepare" and then manually  
compiling and installing the tar which is in tmp/tar-xxxxx
Then start over with the "make mrproper".

Also always make sure you got more then enough disk space available,  
since the compile uses quite a bit.

-- 

Regards
   Heiko Zuerker
   http://www.devil-linux.org

Quoting KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>:

>
> Thank you for your speedy reply.
>
> Yes, I have tried building on different physical hosts as follows:
> Machine #1: Dell machine with hyperthreading p4.  Not sure of motherboard
> specs.  1 GB of ram.
> Machine #2: Personal PC.  Uses P5k-VM (asus) board.  Q6600 processor.  4 GB
> of ram.
> Virtual Environment: Tried both "IDE" and "SCSI" host adapters with VMs.
> Gave each VM around 512-768 MB of ram and 2 cores of my CPU.
> Note: Both the physical machines and the VMs all had more than 1 logical cpu
> core.  Not sure if that helps.
>
> As a programmer myself (not linux of course) I always try process of
> elimination and duplication when I stumble onto a problem.  I have tried so
> many variations (hosts, drive types, config types) at this point I feel I
> must be missing something on a basic level.
>
> As you have requested I wll continue to only use the default config.  That
> way we can just try to get devil to compile with nothing but the basic setup
> to help determine my problem.  Also, if you would like a copy of any of the
> VM's I have created please let me know.  I can 7zip them and host them for
> you to download if you'd like to boot them up and see them directly.
>
> Thank you again for your help.
> Kyle Harper
>
>
> Heiko Zuerker wrote:
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> it sounds like you're doing everything right.
>> Did you try to compile on different physical hosts or was it always
>> the same machine? With a compile this big you sometimes find hardware
>> problems you would never stumbled over otherwise.
>>
>> When you test, work with the default config for now.
>>
>> I'm going to kick off a fresh compile on my build machine, to make
>> sure I didn't introduce a bug with the last update (when I added
>> 2.4.36.6).
>>
>> cu
>>    Heiko
>>
>> Quoting KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>:
>>
>>>
>>> I have been experiencing a great deal of trouble getting devil-linux to
>>> build
>>> properly.  I am able to get the LFS system going, get the sources and
>>> unpack
>>> them, get the config set up, run prepare just fine, but I receive many
>>> build
>>> errors.  I have tried several configurations, thinking I messed something
>>> up.  As follows:
>>>
>>> --Attempt #1--
>>> Host OS: Ubuntu 8.0.4 (fresh install) on a Virtual Machine (VMWare)
>>> LFS: LFSSystem for DL 1.0 and up
>>> Building Version: 1.2.x
>>> Install location: All default and according to documentation
>>> (/usr/src/lfssystem)
>>> Modifications: Deselected most in config and added sudosh.
>>> Problems: Reached linux-2.4.36.6 build and it failed.  Upon reading the
>>> log
>>> in tmp/LOGS/build/linux it was having some trouble finding the
>>> /etc/lilo/install file/folder.
>>>
>>> --Attempt #2--
>>> Same as Attempt #1 except I didn't change anything in the config (I did
>>> enter config though, to create the config file with defaults).  Also I
>>> did
>>> not add sudosh.  I just followed the instructions verbatim.
>>> Problems: Reached linux-2.4.36.6 build and it failed.  Reading log again
>>> showed an error with /etc/lilo/install file/folder.
>>>
>>> --Attempt #3--
>>> Same thing as Attempt #2 except I used a REAL system, not a VM.  Followed
>>> the steps verbatim.
>>> Problems: Reached postgresql build and it failed (error log showed "No
>>> rule
>>> to make target utf8_and_euc_jis_2004.0, needed by
>>> 'libutf8_and_euc_jis_2004.so.0.0").  Manually ran the configure and make
>>> (inside the chroot environment) and it build successfully.  I added the
>>> .done_build_postgresql and continued on.  Then I reached linux-2.4.36.6
>>> and
>>> received a plethora of errors about being unable to find a function (if I
>>> remember correctly) called __guard and __stack_smasher.
>>>
>>> --Attemp #4--
>>> Thinking the problem could be with Ubuntu I switched to Mandriva (fresh
>>> install).  Followed all steps verbatim again.
>>> Problems: Reached postgresql build with errors again (same error message
>>> as
>>> in attempt #3).
>>>
>>> Please note that on attempt #1 and #2 I tried wiping out the LFS system,
>>> running mrproper, and getting sources and preparing again.  No luck.
>>> Also,
>>> I checked for things like Pax and GRSecurity and couldn't find any
>>> indication of them (since your site said you can't compile devil with
>>> those
>>> on the host OS).
>>>
>>> I've ready several forums where the problem has been user-side and after
>>> a
>>> quick change everything runs great.  From looking at the system for many
>>> many hours I believe it is very user friendly.  So I might just be a tool
>>> here, but any advice on what to try would be greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>> If you need any more information just let me know.  I've tried to include
>>> as
>>> much as I can recall.  If you need me to use another host OS or whatever
>>> I
>>> have both virtual (VMWare) and physical (good ole fashioned HD) systems
>>> available.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Kyle Harper
>>> --
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>>> http://www.nabble.com/Continous-build-errors-tp18066864p18066864.html
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>>>
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Reverse Proxying with Devil Linux

[Rudner, B. <br...@ba...>]

Hello Pecca,

I'm using reverse-Proxy Loadbalanced with heartbeat and ldirector based on Devil-Linux now since some years.

In the beginning I also tried pound and had some custom build including it.

I never really got lucky with pound since there where some things missing I really needed so I finally got to Apache (using worker MPM, mod_proxy, mod_proxy_balancer, and the Caching (mainly Disk-Caching since Memcaching had some strange errors in the beginning)

I never had tested squid, so I cant tell something about that.

What I needed was:

Have one Domain: www.example.tld<http://www.example.tld/> with SSL
have multiple Applications accessible from that domain:

https://<https://www.example.tld/App1>www.example.tld/<http://www.example.tld/>App1 goes to an IIS-Backend-Server
<https://www.example.tld/App1>https://<https://www.example.tld/App2>www.example.tld/<http://www.example.tld/>App2 goes to an Apache-Backend-Server (Loadbalanced on 4 App-Servers)
<https://www.example.tld/App1>https://<https://www.example.tld/App3>www.example.tld/<http://www.example.tld/>App3 goes to an Servlet-Server

and so on ...

If this is kind of what you need I could show you what I have done to get this running solid and fast.

I'm unsing an custom-build DL 1.3.x with 2 Nodes:
shorewall - host-firewall
heartbeat / ldirector - failover + active/passive loadbalancing (routed)
apache (worker) - active/active loadbalancing, session-sticky for both cluster-nodes, SSL-Breakup and proxieing to different Applications and different App-Servers, local disk-Caching.



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Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2008 09:59
An: dev...@li...
Betreff: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Reverse Proxying with Devil Linux

Hello,

I would like to build a reverse proxy with Devil-Linux. I currently run version 1.2.13.

I tried it with squid:
- Errors with url rewriter proc, they keep crashing. My url rewriter proc is a simple perl script that
works on commandline as planned. From squid result is this :
"FATAL: The url_rewriter helpers are crashing too rapidly, need help!"

Script is simple:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
$|=1;
use strict;

while (<>) {
  s[^http://test.company.com/]
    [http://internal.company.vpn/];
  print;
}

I cannot figure out why this simple script keeps crashing when it is run by squid but works on
command line.

Next I tried with apache:
- mod_proxy_html is missing, it is needed at least in examples shown in http://www.apachetutor.org/admin/reverseproxies .

Earlier I had a separate computer that had pound http://www.apsis.ch/pound running.
Pound is not included in Devil-Linux. Pound, I think would be the simples and cleanest alternative,
running reverse proxy with squid or apache is like using 1% of their functions.
Pound is simply just what reverse proxy is. (Including load balancer too).

What kind of solutions you have implemented when you do reverse proxy on Devil-Linux?

Best Regards,
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[Devil-Linux-discuss] Reverse Proxying with Devil Linux

[Kilponen P. <pek...@ja...>]

Hello,

I would like to build a reverse proxy with Devil-Linux. I currently run version 1.2.13.

I tried it with squid:
- Errors with url rewriter proc, they keep crashing. My url rewriter proc is a simple perl script that
works on commandline as planned. From squid result is this :
"FATAL: The url_rewriter helpers are crashing too rapidly, need help!"

Script is simple:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
$|=1;
use strict;

while (<>) {
  s[^http://test.company.com/]
    [http://internal.company.vpn/];
  print;
}

I cannot figure out why this simple script keeps crashing when it is run by squid but works on
command line.

Next I tried with apache:
- mod_proxy_html is missing, it is needed at least in examples shown in http://www.apachetutor.org/admin/reverseproxies .

Earlier I had a separate computer that had pound http://www.apsis.ch/pound running.
Pound is not included in Devil-Linux. Pound, I think would be the simples and cleanest alternative,
running reverse proxy with squid or apache is like using 1% of their functions.
Pound is simply just what reverse proxy is. (Including load balancer too).

What kind of solutions you have implemented when you do reverse proxy on Devil-Linux?

Best Regards,
Pekka Kilponen

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Continous build errors

[KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>]

Thank you for your speedy reply.

Yes, I have tried building on different physical hosts as follows:
Machine #1: Dell machine with hyperthreading p4.  Not sure of motherboard
specs.  1 GB of ram.
Machine #2: Personal PC.  Uses P5k-VM (asus) board.  Q6600 processor.  4 GB
of ram.
Virtual Environment: Tried both "IDE" and "SCSI" host adapters with VMs. 
Gave each VM around 512-768 MB of ram and 2 cores of my CPU.
Note: Both the physical machines and the VMs all had more than 1 logical cpu
core.  Not sure if that helps.

As a programmer myself (not linux of course) I always try process of
elimination and duplication when I stumble onto a problem.  I have tried so
many variations (hosts, drive types, config types) at this point I feel I
must be missing something on a basic level.

As you have requested I wll continue to only use the default config.  That
way we can just try to get devil to compile with nothing but the basic setup
to help determine my problem.  Also, if you would like a copy of any of the
VM's I have created please let me know.  I can 7zip them and host them for
you to download if you'd like to boot them up and see them directly.

Thank you again for your help.
Kyle Harper


Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> it sounds like you're doing everything right.
> Did you try to compile on different physical hosts or was it always  
> the same machine? With a compile this big you sometimes find hardware  
> problems you would never stumbled over otherwise.
> 
> When you test, work with the default config for now.
> 
> I'm going to kick off a fresh compile on my build machine, to make  
> sure I didn't introduce a bug with the last update (when I added  
> 2.4.36.6).
> 
> cu
>    Heiko
> 
> Quoting KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>:
> 
>>
>> I have been experiencing a great deal of trouble getting devil-linux to
>> build
>> properly.  I am able to get the LFS system going, get the sources and
>> unpack
>> them, get the config set up, run prepare just fine, but I receive many
>> build
>> errors.  I have tried several configurations, thinking I messed something
>> up.  As follows:
>>
>> --Attempt #1--
>> Host OS: Ubuntu 8.0.4 (fresh install) on a Virtual Machine (VMWare)
>> LFS: LFSSystem for DL 1.0 and up
>> Building Version: 1.2.x
>> Install location: All default and according to documentation
>> (/usr/src/lfssystem)
>> Modifications: Deselected most in config and added sudosh.
>> Problems: Reached linux-2.4.36.6 build and it failed.  Upon reading the
>> log
>> in tmp/LOGS/build/linux it was having some trouble finding the
>> /etc/lilo/install file/folder.
>>
>> --Attempt #2--
>> Same as Attempt #1 except I didn't change anything in the config (I did
>> enter config though, to create the config file with defaults).  Also I
>> did
>> not add sudosh.  I just followed the instructions verbatim.
>> Problems: Reached linux-2.4.36.6 build and it failed.  Reading log again
>> showed an error with /etc/lilo/install file/folder.
>>
>> --Attempt #3--
>> Same thing as Attempt #2 except I used a REAL system, not a VM.  Followed
>> the steps verbatim.
>> Problems: Reached postgresql build and it failed (error log showed "No
>> rule
>> to make target utf8_and_euc_jis_2004.0, needed by
>> 'libutf8_and_euc_jis_2004.so.0.0").  Manually ran the configure and make
>> (inside the chroot environment) and it build successfully.  I added the
>> .done_build_postgresql and continued on.  Then I reached linux-2.4.36.6
>> and
>> received a plethora of errors about being unable to find a function (if I
>> remember correctly) called __guard and __stack_smasher.
>>
>> --Attemp #4--
>> Thinking the problem could be with Ubuntu I switched to Mandriva (fresh
>> install).  Followed all steps verbatim again.
>> Problems: Reached postgresql build with errors again (same error message
>> as
>> in attempt #3).
>>
>> Please note that on attempt #1 and #2 I tried wiping out the LFS system,
>> running mrproper, and getting sources and preparing again.  No luck. 
>> Also,
>> I checked for things like Pax and GRSecurity and couldn't find any
>> indication of them (since your site said you can't compile devil with
>> those
>> on the host OS).
>>
>> I've ready several forums where the problem has been user-side and after
>> a
>> quick change everything runs great.  From looking at the system for many
>> many hours I believe it is very user friendly.  So I might just be a tool
>> here, but any advice on what to try would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> If you need any more information just let me know.  I've tried to include
>> as
>> much as I can recall.  If you need me to use another host OS or whatever
>> I
>> have both virtual (VMWare) and physical (good ole fashioned HD) systems
>> available.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Kyle Harper
>> --
>> View this message in context:  
>> http://www.nabble.com/Continous-build-errors-tp18066864p18066864.html
>> Sent from the devil-linux-discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
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> 
> 
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] Continous build errors

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Hey,

it sounds like you're doing everything right.
Did you try to compile on different physical hosts or was it always  
the same machine? With a compile this big you sometimes find hardware  
problems you would never stumbled over otherwise.

When you test, work with the default config for now.

I'm going to kick off a fresh compile on my build machine, to make  
sure I didn't introduce a bug with the last update (when I added  
2.4.36.6).

cu
   Heiko

Quoting KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>:

>
> I have been experiencing a great deal of trouble getting devil-linux to build
> properly.  I am able to get the LFS system going, get the sources and unpack
> them, get the config set up, run prepare just fine, but I receive many build
> errors.  I have tried several configurations, thinking I messed something
> up.  As follows:
>
> --Attempt #1--
> Host OS: Ubuntu 8.0.4 (fresh install) on a Virtual Machine (VMWare)
> LFS: LFSSystem for DL 1.0 and up
> Building Version: 1.2.x
> Install location: All default and according to documentation
> (/usr/src/lfssystem)
> Modifications: Deselected most in config and added sudosh.
> Problems: Reached linux-2.4.36.6 build and it failed.  Upon reading the log
> in tmp/LOGS/build/linux it was having some trouble finding the
> /etc/lilo/install file/folder.
>
> --Attempt #2--
> Same as Attempt #1 except I didn't change anything in the config (I did
> enter config though, to create the config file with defaults).  Also I did
> not add sudosh.  I just followed the instructions verbatim.
> Problems: Reached linux-2.4.36.6 build and it failed.  Reading log again
> showed an error with /etc/lilo/install file/folder.
>
> --Attempt #3--
> Same thing as Attempt #2 except I used a REAL system, not a VM.  Followed
> the steps verbatim.
> Problems: Reached postgresql build and it failed (error log showed "No rule
> to make target utf8_and_euc_jis_2004.0, needed by
> 'libutf8_and_euc_jis_2004.so.0.0").  Manually ran the configure and make
> (inside the chroot environment) and it build successfully.  I added the
> .done_build_postgresql and continued on.  Then I reached linux-2.4.36.6 and
> received a plethora of errors about being unable to find a function (if I
> remember correctly) called __guard and __stack_smasher.
>
> --Attemp #4--
> Thinking the problem could be with Ubuntu I switched to Mandriva (fresh
> install).  Followed all steps verbatim again.
> Problems: Reached postgresql build with errors again (same error message as
> in attempt #3).
>
> Please note that on attempt #1 and #2 I tried wiping out the LFS system,
> running mrproper, and getting sources and preparing again.  No luck.  Also,
> I checked for things like Pax and GRSecurity and couldn't find any
> indication of them (since your site said you can't compile devil with those
> on the host OS).
>
> I've ready several forums where the problem has been user-side and after a
> quick change everything runs great.  From looking at the system for many
> many hours I believe it is very user friendly.  So I might just be a tool
> here, but any advice on what to try would be greatly appreciated!
>
> If you need any more information just let me know.  I've tried to include as
> much as I can recall.  If you need me to use another host OS or whatever I
> have both virtual (VMWare) and physical (good ole fashioned HD) systems
> available.
>
> Sincerely,
> Kyle Harper
> --
> View this message in context:  
> http://www.nabble.com/Continous-build-errors-tp18066864p18066864.html
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[Devil-Linux-discuss] Continous build errors

[KyleJHarper <ky...@ca...>]

I have been experiencing a great deal of trouble getting devil-linux to build
properly.  I am able to get the LFS system going, get the sources and unpack
them, get the config set up, run prepare just fine, but I receive many build
errors.  I have tried several configurations, thinking I messed something
up.  As follows:

--Attempt #1--
Host OS: Ubuntu 8.0.4 (fresh install) on a Virtual Machine (VMWare)
LFS: LFSSystem for DL 1.0 and up
Building Version: 1.2.x
Install location: All default and according to documentation
(/usr/src/lfssystem)
Modifications: Deselected most in config and added sudosh.
Problems: Reached linux-2.4.36.6 build and it failed.  Upon reading the log
in tmp/LOGS/build/linux it was having some trouble finding the
/etc/lilo/install file/folder.  

--Attempt #2--
Same as Attempt #1 except I didn't change anything in the config (I did
enter config though, to create the config file with defaults).  Also I did
not add sudosh.  I just followed the instructions verbatim.
Problems: Reached linux-2.4.36.6 build and it failed.  Reading log again
showed an error with /etc/lilo/install file/folder.

--Attempt #3--
Same thing as Attempt #2 except I used a REAL system, not a VM.  Followed
the steps verbatim.
Problems: Reached postgresql build and it failed (error log showed "No rule
to make target utf8_and_euc_jis_2004.0, needed by
'libutf8_and_euc_jis_2004.so.0.0").  Manually ran the configure and make
(inside the chroot environment) and it build successfully.  I added the
.done_build_postgresql and continued on.  Then I reached linux-2.4.36.6 and
received a plethora of errors about being unable to find a function (if I
remember correctly) called __guard and __stack_smasher.

--Attemp #4--
Thinking the problem could be with Ubuntu I switched to Mandriva (fresh
install).  Followed all steps verbatim again.
Problems: Reached postgresql build with errors again (same error message as
in attempt #3).

Please note that on attempt #1 and #2 I tried wiping out the LFS system,
running mrproper, and getting sources and preparing again.  No luck.  Also,
I checked for things like Pax and GRSecurity and couldn't find any
indication of them (since your site said you can't compile devil with those
on the host OS).

I've ready several forums where the problem has been user-side and after a
quick change everything runs great.  From looking at the system for many
many hours I believe it is very user friendly.  So I might just be a tool
here, but any advice on what to try would be greatly appreciated!

If you need any more information just let me know.  I've tried to include as
much as I can recall.  If you need me to use another host OS or whatever I
have both virtual (VMWare) and physical (good ole fashioned HD) systems
available.

Sincerely,
Kyle Harper
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] service monitoring in heartbeat failover cluster

[Rudner, B. <br...@ba...>]

Hello Jiri,

you could use the tool rndc for that job.

take a look at rndc-confgen and so on to put the needed config in /etc/rndc.conf and /etc/named.conf.

then you could use rndc status to query the status of named.

I think you also have to put this into the init-script for /etc/init.d/named status so this could be called by heartbeat.

You could also put some custom script in /etc/ha.d/resource.d to start / stop / status the service.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Kind regards,

Björn Rudner



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Von: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] Im Auftrag von Mgr. Motycka Jiri
Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Juni 2008 16:21
An: dev...@li...
Betreff: [Devil-Linux-discuss] service monitoring in heartbeat failover cluster

Hello to everyone.

I would like to know if there is some simple possibility how to check proper working of specific service in heartbeat failover cluster in DL.
I have 2-node HB failover cluster with DNS service and I want to check in HB if the DNS service is running correctly. If it doesn't, HB cluster must do complete failover. Is in DL some simple tool to check if the service is alive or not and is this tool HB compatible (suitable for using in HB) ?

Thank you very much for any advice.
Jiri Motycka

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[Devil-Linux-discuss] service monitoring in heartbeat failover cluster

[Mgr. M. J. <mai...@vc...>]

Hello to everyone.

I would like to know if there is some simple possibility how to check 
proper working of specific service in heartbeat failover cluster in DL.
I have 2-node HB failover cluster with DNS service and I want to check 
in HB if the DNS service is running correctly. If it doesn't, HB cluster 
must do complete failover. Is in DL some simple tool to check if the 
service is alive or not and is this tool HB compatible (suitable for 
using in HB) ?

Thank you very much for any advice.
Jiri Motycka

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] server / non-server?

[John B. <sag...@gm...>]

Hi Bruce,

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Chip

On 6/15/08, Bruce Smith <bw...@re...> wrote:
>> Maybe I missed something, but I did not see any discussion
>> in the site about the difference in the server vs non-server versions.
>> I only saw the i586 / i686 distinction.
>>
>> What is the distinction?
>
> The server release is not compiled with grsecurity, which can cause
> problems for server processes by killing them for using too many
> resources.
>
> If you want to take the time to learn and tune grsecurity, you can
> probably make the non-server build run as a server.
>
>> .. More items are in the server?
>
> No difference on packages.
>
>  - BS
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] server / non-server?

[Bruce S. <bw...@re...>]

> Maybe I missed something, but I did not see any discussion
> in the site about the difference in the server vs non-server versions.
> I only saw the i586 / i686 distinction.
>
> What is the distinction?

The server release is not compiled with grsecurity, which can cause
problems for server processes by killing them for using too many
resources.

If you want to take the time to learn and tune grsecurity, you can
probably make the non-server build run as a server.

> .. More items are in the server?

No difference on packages.

 - BS

[Devil-Linux-discuss] server / non-server?

[John B. <sag...@gm...>]

Hi folks,

Maybe I missed something, but I did not see any discussion
in the site about the difference in the server vs non-server versions.
I only saw the i586 / i686 distinction.

What is the distinction?
.. More items are in the server?

Thanks,
Chip

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [build/scripts] make prepare question

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Hey,

I think the 'install' link in build/.buildorder  was missing, that's  
why you had to run prepare.
One thing prepare does is calculate the run-order of the scripts. If  
you did changes to the top section of the build script, the one which  
controls the dependencies, then you can't get around running make  
prepare.

Heiko

Quoting Oliver Niesner <dig...@gm...>:

>
>> The only thing you have to do is to delete the appropriate
>> .done_XXX_YYY file in build/tmp/.
>> XXX is either build, install or iso
>> YYY is the name of the script
>>
>> then you can do again a "make makefile" or "make build install iso"
>>
>
> Hmm, i did it exactly like you mentioned, but it seems that changes
> aren't recognized in all cases :-|
> I changed for example the install path of my build script, cause i
> missed something.
> First i made a make clean
> Then i deleted build/tmp/.done_build_foo
> After that i typed  'make makefile'
> I could see that the build part passed without errors, but the install
> part wasn't executed at all!
> No build/tmp/.done_install_foo file exists!
> Without any further changes in the script i tried a 'make prepare'
> After that a 'make makefile' compiled my stuff AND the install part was
> executed and the .done_install_foo file was in /tmp/
>
> That was the reason i asked if there is another mechanism to change the
> build/install behavior.
>
> It's not that big problem everything is working now - i just asked
> because it is more likely that i missed something and you already know ;-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Olli
>
>
>
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [build/scripts] make prepare question

[Oliver N. <dig...@gm...>]

> The only thing you have to do is to delete the appropriate  
> .done_XXX_YYY file in build/tmp/.
> XXX is either build, install or iso
> YYY is the name of the script
> 
> then you can do again a "make makefile" or "make build install iso"
> 

Hmm, i did it exactly like you mentioned, but it seems that changes 
aren't recognized in all cases :-|
I changed for example the install path of my build script, cause i 
missed something.
First i made a make clean
Then i deleted build/tmp/.done_build_foo
After that i typed  'make makefile'
I could see that the build part passed without errors, but the install 
part wasn't executed at all!
No build/tmp/.done_install_foo file exists!
Without any further changes in the script i tried a 'make prepare'
After that a 'make makefile' compiled my stuff AND the install part was 
executed and the .done_install_foo file was in /tmp/

That was the reason i asked if there is another mechanism to change the
build/install behavior.

It's not that big problem everything is working now - i just asked 
because it is more likely that i missed something and you already know ;-)

Thanks,

Olli

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] moblock & 1.3.6?

[Bruce S. <bw...@re...>]

> I'm interested in using moblock which needs at least
> kernel 2.6.14.  Would it be reasonable to try using DL 1.3.6
> as a running FW?

Yes, I have a number of DL 1.3.6 servers and firewalls running in a
production environment, without any problems.

> I'd assume a failure would be at least somewhat more
> likely to cause a connection drop than a reduction of
> security?????

True.

 - BS

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [build/scripts] make prepare question

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Quoting Oliver Niesner <dig...@gm...>:

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> Hi!
>
> I have a small question about the buildsystem for DL-1.3.x.
> I added some small packages for my custom-cd.
> The build of these packages went normal, but i had some errors in  
> the install part of
> my scripts...
>
> The question is:
> When i change something in the scripts (eg. in the install path) do  
> i have to restart
> 'make prepare' always? ( takes relatively long time!)
> Or is there another way to tell the system that a script changed?

The only thing you have to do is to delete the appropriate  
.done_XXX_YYY file in build/tmp/.
XXX is either build, install or iso
YYY is the name of the script

then you can do again a "make makefile" or "make build install iso"

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[Devil-Linux-discuss] moblock & 1.3.6?

[John B. <sag...@gm...>]

Hello,

I've only ran DL at a newbie level.

I'm interested in using moblock which needs at least
kernel 2.6.14.  Would it be reasonable to try using DL 1.3.6
as a running FW?

I'd assume a failure would be at least somewhat more
likely to cause a connection drop than a reduction of
security?????


Thanks for any comments,

Chip

[Devil-Linux-discuss] [build/scripts] make prepare question

[Oliver N. <dig...@gm...>]

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Hi!

I have a small question about the buildsystem for DL-1.3.x.
I added some small packages for my custom-cd.
The build of these packages went normal, but i had some errors in the install part of
my scripts...

The question is:
When i change something in the scripts (eg. in the install path) do i have to restart
'make prepare' always? ( takes relatively long time!)
Or is there another way to tell the system that a script changed?


Thanks,


Olli

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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] New DL 1.3 on FTP server

[Serge L. <fi...@in...>]

Peter Jannesen wrote:
> Hi Serge,
> 
> First let my say I found the problem. There is a typo in mount_cdrom.
> The test if /shm/etc-mods/sysconfig/config exists is incorrect the -f is
> missing.
yes. As I said it's already fixed (Jun,3). I'm sorry, I didn't paste it to the
previous message. The discussion was in the developers list...

Index: mount_cdrom
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/devil-linux/build/config/etc/initrd/mount_cdrom,v
retrieving revision 1.44
retrieving revision 1.45
diff -u -d -r1.44 -r1.45
--- mount_cdrom	28 Apr 2008 19:30:21 -0000	1.44
+++ mount_cdrom	3 Jun 2008 16:33:58 -0000	1.45
@@ -117,7 +117,7 @@
         fi

         # check if we already have a config loaded
-        if [ "/shm/etc-mods/sysconfig/config" ]; then
+        if [ -f "/shm/etc-mods/sysconfig/config" ]; then
                 # load main config file
                 . /shm/etc-mods/sysconfig/config
         else



> 
> Background info:
> I use a other system to create the CF. On this system the CF is on USB.
Well, it explains the one problem I've found out. Thanks, I'll modify the script
to add additional check for OS distribution (DL or not).

> In the MBX the CF is directy connected to the IDE controller. The
> problem is that this new MBX is not supporting a CDROM player.
Just FYI:
I have got Via c3 based box with CF in IDE slot (I tested the script on that
device actually). I use usb-cdrom to install DL on CF. Do you have a possibility
to do the same?

The problem is the necessary modules are not loaded (it's my assumption). I can
suggest the following:
 temporary use usb-flash (or FDD) to store the config tarball and define module
to preload in the config file, after that install the system to CF from booted
up DL using the script I've attached.

PS. I've just replaced my initrd by yours and my system boots correctly. So, the
initrd is correct, but init script can't find the iso (probably).


PPS. Updated script is in the attachment. You help me to fix 2 bugs - thanks a lot!

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