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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Future improvement ideas. (resend/new thread :)

[Friedrich L. <fl...@fl...>]

Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> Friedrich Lobenstock wrote:
>  > Bruce Smith wrote:
>  >>
>  >> The advanced user would still be able create their own custom
>  >> configuration on floppy, just like they do now.  It wouldn't effect
>  >> the power user at all.
>  >>
>  >> Thoughts?  Am I missing anything?
>  >
>  >
>  > How to detect an empty floppy, it could also just be the case that
>  > the current floppy got bad sectors and now we are going to overwrite
>  > it. This would need some protection, eg. asking the user for
>  > permission to go on.
>  >
>  > Why not write a simple "create a basic config" script that can be
>  > run when there's either no config or a broken one available.
> 
> I agree with Friedl, it's better to create a basic configuration script.
> It would be the same functionality, except the user has to start it
> manually.

I also ment to offer the user the option to run this script when
devil can not load config from a floppy. So starting it up without
a floppy, creating a basic config, booting the system and then
writing the config with save_config.


-- 
MfG / Regards
Friedrich Lobenstock
____________________________________________________________________
Friedrich Lobenstock                       Linux Services Lobenstock
URL: http://www.lsl.at/                         Email: fl...@fl...
____________________________________________________________________

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Future improvement ideas. (resend/new thread :)

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Friedrich Lobenstock wrote:
 > Bruce Smith wrote:
 >>
 >> The advanced user would still be able create their own custom
 >> configuration on floppy, just like they do now.  It wouldn't effect
 >> the power user at all.
 >>
 >> Thoughts?  Am I missing anything?
 >
 >
 > How to detect an empty floppy, it could also just be the case that
 > the current floppy got bad sectors and now we are going to overwrite
 > it. This would need some protection, eg. asking the user for
 > permission to go on.
 >
 > Why not write a simple "create a basic config" script that can be
 > run when there's either no config or a broken one available.

I agree with Friedl, it's better to create a basic configuration script.
It would be the same functionality, except the user has to start it
manually.

Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Future improvement ideas. (resend/new thread :)

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> > How about a (simple?) improvement that would allow Devil Linux to work
> > "out of the box" (no configuration) for many broadband users?
> >  
> > User Requirements:
> > o  Broadband (cable/DSL) with Ethernet connection w/NO authorization,
> >    which gets IP from ISP via DHCP.  This covers MANY cases.
> 
> Sorry, but that might be true for DSL in the US but definitely
> not for europe. Here you either need PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet),
> PPPoA (PPP over ATM) or PPTP (Point to Point Tunneling Protocol)
> to get you hooked upt to the net - of course with authentification.

I hate when that happens.

We're not going to be able to satisfy all situations, I'm only
suggesting doing the simplest config, to start with.  We can build 
on that later.

> For Cable providers here that's true - maybe not 100% - and they
> need the computers MAC address for their DHCP server.

I don't know about other parts of the world (or even other parts of my
country), but the Cable provider at my home uses the MAC address (or
some other hardware address) of the cable modem itself.  I can switch
the Ethernet cable to any PC I have and it works.  All I have to do is
power cycle the cable modem.  However if I switch cable modems, I have
to get my ISP to change the number in their system (done that).

> > o  Ethernet cables and hub/switch.
> > o  PC with 2 NIC's, 64 MB memory, CDROM drive, Floppy drive, etc.
> > 
> > Instructions:
> > o  Plug one PC NIC into cable/DSL modem, other into HUB.
> > o  Download & burn DL ISO.
> > o  Insert _BLANK_ FORMATTED floppy.
> > o  Set PC to boot from CDROM.
> > o  Boot.  That's all!
> >    (if it doesn't work, reverse Ethernet cables and try again)
> > 
> > What would it take for DL to do this?
> > 
> > o  Simple, default, iptables script that does masquerading.
> > o  Simple, default, dhcpd.conf file for a private IP range.
> > o  New/default option in /etc/sysconfig/nic/ifcfg-eth[01]:
> >    MODULE=probe
> >    where it tries a few popular NIC modules.
> > o  During boot, if it finds an EMPTY/FORMATTED floppy, it
> >    copies the default configuration to the floppy for next boot.
> >    If it finds the normal tar'ed etc directory, it uses it as normal.
> 
> For the cable case it should also print out the MAC address of eth0
> so the users can tell his cable provider this one.

Sure.

> > The advanced user would still be able create their own custom
> > configuration on floppy, just like they do now.  It wouldn't effect 
> > the power user at all.
> >  
> > Thoughts?  Am I missing anything?
> 
> How to detect an empty floppy, it could also just be the case that
> the current floppy got bad sectors and now we are going to overwrite
> it.

No, I mean a really empty (and formatted) floppy.  It mounts clean and
no files exist on the floppy at all.

I'm not suggesting we format or overwrite anything without confirmation.

>  This would need some protection, eg. asking the user for
> permission to go on.
> 
> Why not write a simple "create a basic config" script that can be
> run when there's either no config or a broken one available.

That crossed my mind too.  It's a good idea for a few other reasons:

First it could give the user an option to format a non-empty floppy.
(as you said)

Second it could ask some basic network info, like accepting static IP
information or DHCP about your ISP connection.

Third, would also be a good idea to confirm some info about the DHCP
server, even if it's only a yes/no answer to if DL should supply the
DHCP service.  It's not a good idea to add a 2nd DHCP server to an
existing network that already has one.   :-)

And accepting DHCP range numbers, with default values so a newbie can
just keep pressing ENTER through the questions, might also be nice.

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Future improvement ideas. (resend/new thread :)

[Friedrich L. <fl...@fl...>]

Bruce Smith wrote:
> How about a (simple?) improvement that would allow Devil Linux to work
> "out of the box" (no configuration) for many broadband users?
>  
> User Requirements:
> o  Broadband (cable/DSL) with Ethernet connection w/NO authorization,
>    which gets IP from ISP via DHCP.  This covers MANY cases.

Sorry, but that might be true for DSL in the US but definitely
not for europe. Here you either need PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet),
PPPoA (PPP over ATM) or PPTP (Point to Point Tunneling Protocol)
to get you hooked upt to the net - of course with authentification.

For Cable providers here that's true - maybe not 100% - and they
need the computers MAC address for their DHCP server.


> o  Ethernet cables and hub/switch.
> o  PC with 2 NIC's, 64 MB memory, CDROM drive, Floppy drive, etc.
> 
> Instructions:
> o  Plug one PC NIC into cable/DSL modem, other into HUB.
> o  Download & burn DL ISO.
> o  Insert _BLANK_ FORMATTED floppy.
> o  Set PC to boot from CDROM.
> o  Boot.  That's all!
>    (if it doesn't work, reverse Ethernet cables and try again)
> 
> What would it take for DL to do this?
> 
> o  Simple, default, iptables script that does masquerading.
> o  Simple, default, dhcpd.conf file for a private IP range.
> o  New/default option in /etc/sysconfig/nic/ifcfg-eth[01]:
>    MODULE=probe
>    where it tries a few popular NIC modules.
> o  During boot, if it finds an EMPTY/FORMATTED floppy, it
>    copies the default configuration to the floppy for next boot.
>    If it finds the normal tar'ed etc directory, it uses it as normal.

For the cable case it should also print out the MAC address of eth0
so the users can tell his cable provider this one.

>  
> The advanced user would still be able create their own custom
> configuration on floppy, just like they do now.  It wouldn't effect 
> the power user at all.
>  
> Thoughts?  Am I missing anything?

How to detect an empty floppy, it could also just be the case that
the current floppy got bad sectors and now we are going to overwrite
it. This would need some protection, eg. asking the user for
permission to go on.

Why not write a simple "create a basic config" script that can be
run when there's either no config or a broken one available.

-- 
MfG / Regards
Friedrich Lobenstock
____________________________________________________________________
Friedrich Lobenstock                       Linux Services Lobenstock
URL: http://www.lsl.at/                         Email: fl...@fl...
____________________________________________________________________

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Future improvement ideas.

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> Whatever it is PLEASE when you want to start a new thread do really
> START a NEW THREAD and DO NOT REPLY to a posting on the list. See
> attached screenshot.

Sorry, I was being lazy.  It won't happen again.

Please delete my old message from your folder since I resent it with a
new thread.  And when/if anyone replies, please reply to my latest copy.

 - BS

[Devil-linux-develop] Future improvement ideas. (resend/new thread :)

[Bruce S. <br...@ar...>]

I've said before that it'd be nice to have some kind of a web based
configuration program for DL.  It's a good idea, but that will take a
lot of work.  How about something simpler in the mean time?
 
Being heavily involved in my local LUG, I see a LOT of novices who want
to get started with Linux.  A lot of these people would like a firewall
at home, but Devil Linux is not for the novice user.  i.e.  Creating an
iptables script is above their heads.
 
How about a (simple?) improvement that would allow Devil Linux to work
"out of the box" (no configuration) for many broadband users?
 
User Requirements:
o  Broadband (cable/DSL) with Ethernet connection w/NO authorization,
   which gets IP from ISP via DHCP.  This covers MANY cases.
o  Ethernet cables and hub/switch.
o  PC with 2 NIC's, 64 MB memory, CDROM drive, Floppy drive, etc.

Instructions:
o  Plug one PC NIC into cable/DSL modem, other into HUB.
o  Download & burn DL ISO.
o  Insert _BLANK_ FORMATTED floppy.
o  Set PC to boot from CDROM.
o  Boot.  That's all!
   (if it doesn't work, reverse Ethernet cables and try again)

What would it take for DL to do this?

o  Simple, default, iptables script that does masquerading.
o  Simple, default, dhcpd.conf file for a private IP range.
o  New/default option in /etc/sysconfig/nic/ifcfg-eth[01]:
   MODULE=probe
   where it tries a few popular NIC modules.
o  During boot, if it finds an EMPTY/FORMATTED floppy, it
   copies the default configuration to the floppy for next boot.
   If it finds the normal tar'ed etc directory, it uses it as normal.
 
The advanced user would still be able create their own custom
configuration on floppy, just like they do now.  It wouldn't effect 
the power user at all.
 
Thoughts?  Am I missing anything?
 
 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Future improvement ideas.

[Friedrich L. <fl...@fl...>]

Bruce Smith wrote:
> ....

Whatever it is PLEASE when you want to start a new thread do really
START a NEW THREAD and DO NOT REPLY to a posting on the list. See
attached screenshot.

-- 
MfG / Regards
Friedrich Lobenstock
____________________________________________________________________
Friedrich Lobenstock                       Linux Services Lobenstock
URL: http://www.lsl.at/                         Email: fl...@fl...
____________________________________________________________________

[Devil-linux-develop] Future improvement ideas.

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

I've said before that it'd be nice to have some kind of a web based
configuration program for DL.  That will take a lot of work.  How about
something simpler in the mean time?

Being heavily involved in my local LUG, I see a LOT of novices who want
to get started with Linux.  A lot of these people would like a firewall
at home, but Devil Linux is not for the novice user.  i.e.  Creating an
iptables script is above their heads.

How about a (simple?) improvement that would allow Devil Linux to work
"out of the box" (no configuration) for many broadband users?

User Requirements:
o  Broadband (cable/DSL) with Ethernet connection w/NO authorization,
   which gets IP from ISP via DHCP.  This covers MANY cases.
o  Ethernet cables and hub/switch.
o  PC with 2 NIC's, 64 MB memory, CDROM drive, Floppy drive, etc.

Instructions:
o  Plug one PC NIC into cable/DSL modem, other into HUB.
o  Download & burn DL ISO.
o  Insert _BLANK_ FORMATTED floppy.
o  Set PC to boot from CDROM.
o  Boot.  That's all!
   (if it doesn't work, reverse Ethernet cables and try again)

What would it take for DL to do this?

o  Simple, default, iptables script that does masquerading.
o  Simple, default, dhcpd.conf file for a private IP range.
o  New/default option in /etc/sysconfig/nic/ifcfg-eth[01]:
   MODULE=probe
   where it tries a few popular NIC modules.
o  During boot, if it finds an EMPTY/FORMATTED floppy, it 
   copies the default configuration to the floppy for next boot.
   If it finds the normal tar'ed etc directory, it uses it as normal.

The advanced user would still be able create their own custom
configuration on floppy, just like they do now.  It wouldn't effect the
power user at all.

Thoughts?  Am I missing anything?

 - BS

[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-738203 ] watchdog doesn't compile with glibc 2.3.2

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Bugs item #738203, was opened at 2003-05-15 07:46
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Category: Package
Group: None
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
>Assigned to: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Summary: watchdog doesn't compile with glibc 2.3.2

Initial Comment:
just fix it ;-)

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[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-738248 ] daemontools doesn't compile under glibc 2.3.2

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Bugs item #738248, was opened at 2003-05-15 09:15
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Category: Package
Group: None
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
>Assigned to: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Summary: daemontools doesn't compile under glibc 2.3.2

Initial Comment:
executing daemontools with option build (in
/data/build/tmp/daemontools-0.76)
Linking ./src/* into ./compile...
Compiling everything in ./compile...
make[1]: Entering directory
`/data/build/tmp/daemontools-0.76/compile'
sh find-systype.sh > systype
rm -f compile
sh print-cc.sh > compile
chmod 555 compile
./compile byte_chr.c
./compile byte_copy.c
./compile byte_cr.c
./compile byte_diff.c
./compile byte_rchr.c
./compile fmt_uint.c
./compile fmt_uint0.c
./compile fmt_ulong.c
rm -f makelib
sh print-ar.sh > makelib
chmod 555 makelib
./compile scan_ulong.c
./compile str_chr.c
./compile str_diff.c
./compile str_len.c
./compile str_start.c
./makelib byte.a byte_chr.o byte_copy.o byte_cr.o
byte_diff.o \
byte_rchr.o fmt_uint.o fmt_uint0.o fmt_ulong.o
scan_ulong.o str_chr.o \
str_diff.o str_len.o str_start.o
rm -f choose
cat warn-auto.sh choose.sh \
| sed s}HOME}"`head -1 home`"}g \
> choose
chmod 555 choose
./choose c trydrent direntry.h1 direntry.h2 > direntry.h
./compile envdir.c
rm -f load
sh print-ld.sh > load
chmod 555 load
./compile alloc.c
./compile alloc_re.c
./compile buffer.c
./compile buffer_0.c
./compile buffer_1.c
./compile buffer_2.c
./compile buffer_get.c
./compile buffer_put.c
./compile buffer_read.c
./compile buffer_write.c
./compile coe.c
./compile env.c
./compile error.c
./compile error_str.c
./compile fd_copy.c
./compile fd_move.c
./choose cl trymkffo hasmkffo.h1 hasmkffo.h2 > hasmkffo.h
./compile fifo.c
./choose cl tryflock hasflock.h1 hasflock.h2 > hasflock.h
./compile lock_ex.c
./compile lock_exnb.c
./compile ndelay_off.c
./compile ndelay_on.c
./compile open_append.c
./compile open_read.c
./compile open_trunc.c
./compile open_write.c
./compile openreadclose.c
./compile pathexec_env.c
./compile pathexec_run.c
pathexec_run.c: In function `pathexec_run':
pathexec_run.c:18: warning: implicit declaration of
function `execve'
./compile chkshsgr.c
chkshsgr.c: In function `main':
chkshsgr.c:10: warning: passing arg 2 of `getgroups'
from incompatible pointer type
chkshsgr.c:10: warning: implicit declaration of
function `setgroups'
./load chkshsgr 
./chkshsgr || ( cat warn-shsgr; exit 1 )
./choose clr tryshsgr hasshsgr.h1 hasshsgr.h2 > hasshsgr.h
./compile prot.c
prot.c: In function `prot_gid':
prot.c:13: warning: implicit declaration of function
`setgroups'
prot.c:15: warning: implicit declaration of function
`setgid'
prot.c: In function `prot_uid':
prot.c:20: warning: implicit declaration of function
`setuid'
./compile readclose.c
./compile seek_set.c
seek_set.c: In function `seek_set':
seek_set.c:9: warning: implicit declaration of function
`lseek'
./compile sgetopt.c
./compile sig.c
./choose cl trysgprm hassgprm.h1 hassgprm.h2 > hassgprm.h
./compile sig_block.c
./choose cl trysgact hassgact.h1 hassgact.h2 > hassgact.h
./compile sig_catch.c
./compile sig_pause.c
./compile stralloc_cat.c
./compile stralloc_catb.c
./compile stralloc_cats.c
./compile stralloc_eady.c
./compile stralloc_opyb.c
./compile stralloc_opys.c
./compile stralloc_pend.c
./compile strerr_die.c
./compile strerr_sys.c
./compile subgetopt.c
./choose cl trywaitp haswaitp.h1 haswaitp.h2 > haswaitp.h
./compile wait_nohang.c
./compile wait_pid.c
./makelib unix.a alloc.o alloc_re.o buffer.o buffer_0.o
buffer_1.o \
buffer_2.o buffer_get.o buffer_put.o buffer_read.o
buffer_write.o \
coe.o env.o error.o error_str.o fd_copy.o fd_move.o
fifo.o lock_ex.o \
lock_exnb.o ndelay_off.o ndelay_on.o open_append.o
open_read.o \
open_trunc.o open_write.o openreadclose.o pathexec_env.o \
pathexec_run.o prot.o readclose.o seek_set.o sgetopt.o
sig.o \
sig_block.o sig_catch.o sig_pause.o stralloc_cat.o
stralloc_catb.o \
stralloc_cats.o stralloc_eady.o stralloc_opyb.o
stralloc_opys.o \
stralloc_pend.o strerr_die.o strerr_sys.o subgetopt.o
wait_nohang.o \
wait_pid.o
./load envdir unix.a byte.a 
envdir.o: In function `main':
envdir.o(.text+0xe5): undefined reference to `errno'
envdir.o(.text+0x202): undefined reference to `errno'
unix.a(openreadclose.o): In function `openreadclose':
openreadclose.o(.text+0x47): undefined reference to `errno'
unix.a(pathexec_run.o): In function `pathexec_run':
pathexec_run.o(.text+0xf7): undefined reference to `errno'
pathexec_run.o(.text+0x138): undefined reference to `errno'
unix.a(readclose.o)(.text+0x44): more undefined
references to `errno' follow
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [envdir] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/data/build/tmp/daemontools-0.76/compile'
Copying commands into ./command...
cp: cannot stat `compile/svscan': No such file or directory
ERROR
/data/build/scripts/daemontools build failed
make: *** [build] Error 1


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[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-738267 ] samba doesn't compile under glibc 2.3.2

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Bugs item #738267, was opened at 2003-05-15 09:44
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Category: Package
Group: None
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
>Assigned to: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Summary: samba doesn't compile under glibc 2.3.2

Initial Comment:
check for updates

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Creating help files.

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Bruce Smith wrote:
>>>In my effort to help out, I noticed that very few help files exist in
>>>the directory:   scripts/configuration/help/
>>>
>>>If anyone else is working on creating them, please speak up.  Otherwise
>>>I'll go through the packages and create as many as I can figure out.
>>>
>>>All I have to do is create the help files for packages listed in
>>>"make menuconfig", right?  No other tweaking required?
>>>
>>Correct. It's mostly a cut'n'paste from websites.
>>
>>Have fun and many thanks for the help !
>>
> 
> I have them almost all done.  One question:
> 
> Why is the config file for the 
> 
>  "SCM USBAT-02 Compact Flash Reader (Zio et al)" CONFIG_SCM_USBAT02  
> 
> named:   scripts/configuration/linux.config  ?

It is a Kernel patch and I didn't want to create a new script.
Lazyness.... ;-)

Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Creating help files.

[Bruce S. <br...@ar...>]

> >In my effort to help out, I noticed that very few help files exist in
> >the directory:   scripts/configuration/help/
> >
> >If anyone else is working on creating them, please speak up.  Otherwise
> >I'll go through the packages and create as many as I can figure out.
> >
> >All I have to do is create the help files for packages listed in
> >"make menuconfig", right?  No other tweaking required?
> 
> Correct. It's mostly a cut'n'paste from websites.
> 
> Have fun and many thanks for the help !

I have them almost all done.  One question:

Why is the config file for the 

 "SCM USBAT-02 Compact Flash Reader (Zio et al)" CONFIG_SCM_USBAT02  

named:   scripts/configuration/linux.config  ?

--------------------------------------------
Bruce Smith                br...@ar...
System Administrator / Network Administrator
Armstrong International, Inc.
Three Rivers, Michigan  49093  USA
http://www.armstrong-intl.com/
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[Devil-linux-develop] [fmII] OpenVPN 1.4.1 released (Default branch)

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[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-738225 ] ez-ipupdate doesn't compile under glibc 2.3.2

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Bugs item #738225, was opened at 2003-05-15 08:41
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Category: Package
>Group: v0.6
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
>Assigned to: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Summary: ez-ipupdate doesn't compile under glibc 2.3.2

Initial Comment:
Never version is available, but can't download it.....

http://www.gusnet.cx/proj/ez-ipupdate/
http://www.gusnet.cx:8080/proj/ez-ipupdate/

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[Devil-linux-develop] Buffer flow compiler mods from Immunix.org

[John v. V. <joh...@ya...>]

While looking thru the LinuxISO site I clicked on Immunix.

They have two features for their distro which prevent attacks.  The one that
got my attention deals w/ buffer overflows by using canaries, yeah the birds
;), in GCC.

Well, they are about to stop giving linux away, selling it only, but their mods
to the compiler are GPL.

There is a really mild perfomance hit, nothing to speak of.

http://www.immunix.org/stackguard.html

The other thing is format guarding, something to do w/ printf and sprintf, I
never heard of it, but i would hate to hear about it by being cracked into !!

John



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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] LinuxiSO site, no DL

[John v. V. <joh...@ya...>]

Maybe this would be a good time to bump DL to 1.0 (or 0.9, anyway) for
"marketing purposes".  

A rush of new users would add real-time testers to eliminate the last of the
bugs.


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> 
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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Creating help files.

[John v. V. <joh...@ya...>]

If we go with Webmin,as I hope, and utilize perl for producing DL (and eLSD)
then maybe the Perl "Pod" format from Perl would be an appropriate format.

Standardized perl scripts exist to create formatted text or html with ease. 
Perl, despite its weird community, has a culture of pragmatism and
practicallity (same thing ??) which I feel parallels the DL philosophy.

If you look at any recent perl module, you will see robust Pod documentation. 
More often than not, perlers include a common example of its usage.  I think
that the DL mission could be greatly enhanced with an educational purpose if
users are encouraged to supply their own configurations and usages as addendums
to the standard documentation.
  
Pod, btw, stands for "plain old document"

On another formatting topic, XML, I made contact w/ a XML-RSS news feed guru,
Morbus Iff, who created AmphetaDesk, also in Perl.  I found him on the
Sourceforge RSS page, so I am sure RSS is available to DL as well.  

Morbus is an O'Reilly author  w/ several books to his credit.  The latest, he
claims will be a winner, but he won't tell anything more.  It seems to include
the word "hack" though.


--- Heiko Zuerker <hz...@pr...> wrote:
> On 05/15/2003 10:16:11 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
> >In my effort to help out, I noticed that very few help files exist in
> >the directory:   scripts/configuration/help/
> >
> >If anyone else is working on creating them, please speak up.  Otherwise
> >I'll go through the packages and create as many as I can figure out.
> >
> >All I have to do is create the help files for packages listed in
> >"make menuconfig", right?  No other tweaking required?
> 
> Correct. It's mostly a cut'n'paste from websites.
> 
> Have fun and many thanks for the help !
> 
> Heiko
> 
> 
> 
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[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-738267 ] samba doesn't compile under glibc 2.3.2

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Bugs item #738267, was opened at 2003-05-15 09:44
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Category: Package
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: samba doesn't compile under glibc 2.3.2

Initial Comment:
check for updates

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Creating help files.

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 05/15/2003 10:16:11 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>In my effort to help out, I noticed that very few help files exist in
>the directory:   scripts/configuration/help/
>
>If anyone else is working on creating them, please speak up.  Otherwis=
e
>I'll go through the packages and create as many as I can figure out.
>
>All I have to do is create the help files for packages listed in
>"make menuconfig", right?  No other tweaking required?

Correct. It's mostly a cut'n'paste from websites.

Have fun and many thanks for the help !

Heiko
=

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] LinuxiSO site, no DL

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 05/15/2003 10:04:49 AM "John van V." wrote:
>I didn't see DL here.  Considering the only other ISO boot is Knoppix,=

>it
>should really be represented.  It should bring in a lot of new users.
>I found
>a system called Immunix which boasts some interesting new security
>protections.
>
>http://www.linuxiso.org/

I submitted it.

Heiko
=

[Devil-linux-develop] Creating help files.

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

In my effort to help out, I noticed that very few help files exist in
the directory:   scripts/configuration/help/

If anyone else is working on creating them, please speak up.  Otherwise
I'll go through the packages and create as many as I can figure out.

All I have to do is create the help files for packages listed in
"make menuconfig", right?  No other tweaking required?

 - BS

[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-738248 ] daemontools doesn't compile under glibc 2.3.2

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Bugs item #738248, was opened at 2003-05-15 09:15
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Category: Package
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: daemontools doesn't compile under glibc 2.3.2

Initial Comment:
executing daemontools with option build (in
/data/build/tmp/daemontools-0.76)
Linking ./src/* into ./compile...
Compiling everything in ./compile...
make[1]: Entering directory
`/data/build/tmp/daemontools-0.76/compile'
sh find-systype.sh > systype
rm -f compile
sh print-cc.sh > compile
chmod 555 compile
./compile byte_chr.c
./compile byte_copy.c
./compile byte_cr.c
./compile byte_diff.c
./compile byte_rchr.c
./compile fmt_uint.c
./compile fmt_uint0.c
./compile fmt_ulong.c
rm -f makelib
sh print-ar.sh > makelib
chmod 555 makelib
./compile scan_ulong.c
./compile str_chr.c
./compile str_diff.c
./compile str_len.c
./compile str_start.c
./makelib byte.a byte_chr.o byte_copy.o byte_cr.o
byte_diff.o \
byte_rchr.o fmt_uint.o fmt_uint0.o fmt_ulong.o
scan_ulong.o str_chr.o \
str_diff.o str_len.o str_start.o
rm -f choose
cat warn-auto.sh choose.sh \
| sed s}HOME}"`head -1 home`"}g \
> choose
chmod 555 choose
./choose c trydrent direntry.h1 direntry.h2 > direntry.h
./compile envdir.c
rm -f load
sh print-ld.sh > load
chmod 555 load
./compile alloc.c
./compile alloc_re.c
./compile buffer.c
./compile buffer_0.c
./compile buffer_1.c
./compile buffer_2.c
./compile buffer_get.c
./compile buffer_put.c
./compile buffer_read.c
./compile buffer_write.c
./compile coe.c
./compile env.c
./compile error.c
./compile error_str.c
./compile fd_copy.c
./compile fd_move.c
./choose cl trymkffo hasmkffo.h1 hasmkffo.h2 > hasmkffo.h
./compile fifo.c
./choose cl tryflock hasflock.h1 hasflock.h2 > hasflock.h
./compile lock_ex.c
./compile lock_exnb.c
./compile ndelay_off.c
./compile ndelay_on.c
./compile open_append.c
./compile open_read.c
./compile open_trunc.c
./compile open_write.c
./compile openreadclose.c
./compile pathexec_env.c
./compile pathexec_run.c
pathexec_run.c: In function `pathexec_run':
pathexec_run.c:18: warning: implicit declaration of
function `execve'
./compile chkshsgr.c
chkshsgr.c: In function `main':
chkshsgr.c:10: warning: passing arg 2 of `getgroups'
from incompatible pointer type
chkshsgr.c:10: warning: implicit declaration of
function `setgroups'
./load chkshsgr 
./chkshsgr || ( cat warn-shsgr; exit 1 )
./choose clr tryshsgr hasshsgr.h1 hasshsgr.h2 > hasshsgr.h
./compile prot.c
prot.c: In function `prot_gid':
prot.c:13: warning: implicit declaration of function
`setgroups'
prot.c:15: warning: implicit declaration of function
`setgid'
prot.c: In function `prot_uid':
prot.c:20: warning: implicit declaration of function
`setuid'
./compile readclose.c
./compile seek_set.c
seek_set.c: In function `seek_set':
seek_set.c:9: warning: implicit declaration of function
`lseek'
./compile sgetopt.c
./compile sig.c
./choose cl trysgprm hassgprm.h1 hassgprm.h2 > hassgprm.h
./compile sig_block.c
./choose cl trysgact hassgact.h1 hassgact.h2 > hassgact.h
./compile sig_catch.c
./compile sig_pause.c
./compile stralloc_cat.c
./compile stralloc_catb.c
./compile stralloc_cats.c
./compile stralloc_eady.c
./compile stralloc_opyb.c
./compile stralloc_opys.c
./compile stralloc_pend.c
./compile strerr_die.c
./compile strerr_sys.c
./compile subgetopt.c
./choose cl trywaitp haswaitp.h1 haswaitp.h2 > haswaitp.h
./compile wait_nohang.c
./compile wait_pid.c
./makelib unix.a alloc.o alloc_re.o buffer.o buffer_0.o
buffer_1.o \
buffer_2.o buffer_get.o buffer_put.o buffer_read.o
buffer_write.o \
coe.o env.o error.o error_str.o fd_copy.o fd_move.o
fifo.o lock_ex.o \
lock_exnb.o ndelay_off.o ndelay_on.o open_append.o
open_read.o \
open_trunc.o open_write.o openreadclose.o pathexec_env.o \
pathexec_run.o prot.o readclose.o seek_set.o sgetopt.o
sig.o \
sig_block.o sig_catch.o sig_pause.o stralloc_cat.o
stralloc_catb.o \
stralloc_cats.o stralloc_eady.o stralloc_opyb.o
stralloc_opys.o \
stralloc_pend.o strerr_die.o strerr_sys.o subgetopt.o
wait_nohang.o \
wait_pid.o
./load envdir unix.a byte.a 
envdir.o: In function `main':
envdir.o(.text+0xe5): undefined reference to `errno'
envdir.o(.text+0x202): undefined reference to `errno'
unix.a(openreadclose.o): In function `openreadclose':
openreadclose.o(.text+0x47): undefined reference to `errno'
unix.a(pathexec_run.o): In function `pathexec_run':
pathexec_run.o(.text+0xf7): undefined reference to `errno'
pathexec_run.o(.text+0x138): undefined reference to `errno'
unix.a(readclose.o)(.text+0x44): more undefined
references to `errno' follow
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [envdir] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/data/build/tmp/daemontools-0.76/compile'
Copying commands into ./command...
cp: cannot stat `compile/svscan': No such file or directory
ERROR
/data/build/scripts/daemontools build failed
make: *** [build] Error 1


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[Devil-linux-develop] LinuxiSO site, no DL

[John v. V. <joh...@ya...>]

Hi

I didn't see DL here.  Considering the only other ISO boot is Knoppix, it
should really be represented.  It should bring in a lot of new users.  I found
a system called Immunix which boasts some interesting new security protections.

http://www.linuxiso.org/

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[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-738225 ] ez-ipupdate doesn't compile under glibc 2.3.2

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Bugs item #738225, was opened at 2003-05-15 08:41
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Category: Package
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: ez-ipupdate doesn't compile under glibc 2.3.2

Initial Comment:
Never version is available, but can't download it.....

http://www.gusnet.cx/proj/ez-ipupdate/
http://www.gusnet.cx:8080/proj/ez-ipupdate/

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