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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Gatekeeper?

[Friedrich L. <fl...@fl...>]

Bruce Smith wrote:
>>How about creating a package for the stable bison, extracting the patch
>>from pwlib and letting the bison build script do the patching.
> 
> We could, but I don't see what that gains us.  The file that needs to be
> patched is a text file (not a binary), so a re-compile is not necessary.

Just my 2 euro cents.

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Gatekeeper?

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >>I would suggest adding bison to our build system.
> >>Compile and install it in the "build" section and put the execution of the
> >>script below 100.
> > 
> > Do a "make install" in the build system, and install it in the LFS base?
> > And don't copy anything to the DL CD?
> > 
> > One potential problem is we're currently running the latest _stable_
> > version of bison, so I'd have to install the latest _beta_ release.
> > 
> > Are we brave enough to install a beta release of bison in the LFS,
> > considering it is probably used to compile many of our packages?
> > 
> > It may be safer to create a build script to copy (or patch) the new
> > /usr/share/bison/yacc.c file into our current release of bison.
> 
> How about creating a package for the stable bison, extracting the patch
> from pwlib and letting the bison build script do the patching.

We could, but I don't see what that gains us.  The file that needs to be
patched is a text file (not a binary), so a re-compile is not necessary.

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Gatekeeper?

[Friedrich L. <fl...@fl...>]

Bruce Smith wrote:
>>>Another problem I found, pwlib requires a patch to a bison config file
>>>for it to compile (/usr/share/bison/yacc.c - outside of the build tree).
>>>
>>>How do we handle something like that?
>>
>>I would suggest adding bison to our build system.
>>Compile and install it in the "build" section and put the execution of the
>>script below 100.
> 
> 
> Do a "make install" in the build system, and install it in the LFS base?
> And don't copy anything to the DL CD?
> 
> One potential problem is we're currently running the latest _stable_
> version of bison, so I'd have to install the latest _beta_ release.
> 
> Are we brave enough to install a beta release of bison in the LFS,
> considering it is probably used to compile many of our packages?
> 
> It may be safer to create a build script to copy (or patch) the new
> /usr/share/bison/yacc.c file into our current release of bison.

How about creating a package for the stable bison, extracting the patch
from pwlib and letting the bison build script do the patching.

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Friedrich Lobenstock
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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Gatekeeper?

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >Another problem I found, pwlib requires a patch to a bison config file
> >for it to compile (/usr/share/bison/yacc.c - outside of the build tree).
> >
> >How do we handle something like that?
>
> I would suggest adding bison to our build system.
> Compile and install it in the "build" section and put the execution of the
> script below 100.

Do a "make install" in the build system, and install it in the LFS base?
And don't copy anything to the DL CD?

One potential problem is we're currently running the latest _stable_
version of bison, so I'd have to install the latest _beta_ release.

Are we brave enough to install a beta release of bison in the LFS,
considering it is probably used to compile many of our packages?

It may be safer to create a build script to copy (or patch) the new
/usr/share/bison/yacc.c file into our current release of bison.

What do you think?

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Gatekeeper?

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 06/27/2003 10:48:59 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> >The GNU-Gatekeeper (gnugk) requires PWLib and the OpenH323 library,=

>> >which are two separate packages/tar-files.
>> >
>> >Should I make one menu_add selection for gnugk which selects all
>three
>> >packages?
>> >
>> >Or should I make three separate menu_add items?  (If so, is there a=
ny
>> >way to require the two libraries if gnugk is selected?)
>>
>> You have to create an menuconfig entry for every optional piece and
>make
>> them dependend on eachother.
>> Check out how I did it with the DJB stuff (daemontools, djbdns).
>>
>> You also have to create one script per tar file.
>
>OK.
>
>Another problem I found, pwlib requires a patch to a bison config file=

>for it to compile (/usr/share/bison/yacc.c - outside of the build tree=
).
>
>How do we handle something like that?
>

I would suggest adding bison to our build system.
Compile and install it in the "build" section and put the execution of =
the
script below 100.

cya
  Heiko
=

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Gatekeeper?

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >The GNU-Gatekeeper (gnugk) requires PWLib and the OpenH323 library,
> >which are two separate packages/tar-files.
> >
> >Should I make one menu_add selection for gnugk which selects all three
> >packages?
> >
> >Or should I make three separate menu_add items?  (If so, is there any
> >way to require the two libraries if gnugk is selected?)
> 
> You have to create an menuconfig entry for every optional piece and make
> them dependend on eachother.
> Check out how I did it with the DJB stuff (daemontools, djbdns).
> 
> You also have to create one script per tar file.

OK.

Another problem I found, pwlib requires a patch to a bison config file
for it to compile (/usr/share/bison/yacc.c - outside of the build tree).

How do we handle something like that?

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Gatekeeper?

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 06/27/2003 08:59:50 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> >One thing that would be useful on our firewall would be a
>"gatekeeper",
>> >for handling incoming H.323/VoIP connections.
>> >
>> > ... any objections to me adding something like "gnugk" to DL?
>>
>> No objections here, I actually *want* to have it as one of our
>> functionalities.
>
>I have a question about adding this optional package.
>
>The GNU-Gatekeeper (gnugk) requires PWLib and the OpenH323 library,
>which are two separate packages/tar-files.
>
>Should I make one menu_add selection for gnugk which selects all three=

>packages?
>
>Or should I make three separate menu_add items?  (If so, is there any
>way to require the two libraries if gnugk is selected?)

You have to create an menuconfig entry for every optional piece and mak=
e
them dependend on eachother.
Check out how I did it with the DJB stuff (daemontools, djbdns).

You also have to create one script per tar file.

Heiko
=

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Gatekeeper?

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >One thing that would be useful on our firewall would be a "gatekeeper",
> >for handling incoming H.323/VoIP connections.
> >
> > ... any objections to me adding something like "gnugk" to DL?
> 
> No objections here, I actually *want* to have it as one of our
> functionalities.

I have a question about adding this optional package.

The GNU-Gatekeeper (gnugk) requires PWLib and the OpenH323 library,
which are two separate packages/tar-files.

Should I make one menu_add selection for gnugk which selects all three
packages?  

Or should I make three separate menu_add items?  (If so, is there any
way to require the two libraries if gnugk is selected?)

 - BS

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] webserver and php

[John v. V. <joh...@ya...>]

Hi all,

Heiko's email about the mistakes in security pointed out problems in PHP.
I have been fooling around with AmphetaDesk, a RSS news tool which is in perl
and has a tiny perl http server.

Webmin, also written in perl, is in wide commercial use, has significant
secturity and has a perl httpd server.

Python is nice but I never used it because it uses white spaces as part of it
OO implementation, which is scary when debugging under pressure.

As I mentioned to Bruce it is high time for a new admin scripting language
though I am on advocating DL...

I am in Utah right now, at a big party in the mountains.. big 20,000 people :)

John


http://www.itworld.com/AppDev/4072/020301phpflaws/

PHP security flaws affect 1 million Web sites
ITworld.com 3/1/02


About 1 million Web sites are vulnerable to attack through recently discovered
flaws in the popular PHP (Personal Home Page) scripting language, Web server
information firm Netcraft Ltd. said Friday.

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suggested in security warnings that have been sent out this week, Netcraft
Director Mike Prettejohn said.

"A system is only vulnerable when PHP is actually used on a Web site, not when
it is installed on the server. Current advisories have not made that especially
clear," he said.

About 8.4 million Web sites support a vulnerable version of PHP, but only about
1 million of those actually use the scripting language on Web pages, which is
what makes them vulnerable, according to Prettejohn.




--- Bruce Smith <bw...@ar...> wrote:
> > > And according to boa.org, thttpd is "very similar to Boa", and I see we
> > > already have thttpd in DL...
> > 
> > So a step closer, 
> 
> Why was thttpd originally added to DL?
> 
> > except if John really needs the real apache.
> 
> I hope not.  Apache is HUGE compared to boa & thttpd:
> 
>   http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/benchmarks.html
> 
> One other advantage of thttpd over boa is thttpd supports "basic auth",
> and boa doesn't.
> 
> > > PHP can be compiled as a standalone CGI program, so it should work with 
> > > any web server that supports CGI.
> > 
> > I guess Axis did choose PHP3 because of the lower memory footprint
> > than PHP4.
> 
> Could be.  We should probably go with PHP4 so we are sure to have the
> latest security updates.
> 
>  - BS
> 
> 
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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Anon. CVS Not working

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> 	Hey... I'm having a problem checking out from CVS. I'm getting the
> message "cvs [checkout aborted]: recv() from server
> cvs.devil-linux.sourceforge.net EOF.  Is this something that one of you
> can fix?

It's my experience that message means that their server is too busy, or
it exceeds the limit of concurrent connections.  If you keep retrying,
it should work.

I quit having that problem once I got a developer login.  :-)

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Anon. CVS Not working

[Friedrich L. <fl...@fl...>]

John Kiss wrote:
> 	That sounds great... thanx...

Get the current build system snapshot at
   ftp://ftp.tugraz.at/incoming/fl/dl-build-2003-06-25.tar.bz2

Get it very sooooon as this file will automatically get removed after
some time.

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Anon. CVS Not working

[John K. <jk...@sa...>]

	That sounds great... thanx...

On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 18:29, Friedrich Lobenstock wrote:
> John Kiss wrote:
> > 	Hey... I'm having a problem checking out from CVS. I'm getting the
> > message "cvs [checkout aborted]: recv() from server
> > cvs.devil-linux.sourceforge.net EOF.  Is this something that one of you
> > can fix?
> 
> No, only Sourceforge can do. I guess they might already be working on
> the problem. If you need a current CVS snapshot I can create on and
> make it available to you via FTP.
-- 
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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Anon. CVS Not working

[Friedrich L. <fl...@fl...>]

John Kiss wrote:
> 	Hey... I'm having a problem checking out from CVS. I'm getting the
> message "cvs [checkout aborted]: recv() from server
> cvs.devil-linux.sourceforge.net EOF.  Is this something that one of you
> can fix?

No, only Sourceforge can do. I guess they might already be working on
the problem. If you need a current CVS snapshot I can create on and
make it available to you via FTP.

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[Devil-linux-develop] Anon. CVS Not working

[John K. <jk...@qu...>]

	Hey... I'm having a problem checking out from CVS. I'm getting the
message "cvs [checkout aborted]: recv() from server
cvs.devil-linux.sourceforge.net EOF.  Is this something that one of you
can fix?

	Cheers
	John
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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] USB HostAP and code contribution (was Re: Embedded Devil Linux)

[Thomas E. <tho...@bu...>]

Friedrich Lobenstock schrieb:
>>     One other thing I have that you guys are probably not interested 
>> in but
>> I'll mention it anyways is a modified HostAP which supports PrismII USB
>> dongles.  
> 
> 
> I'd know one who'd be longing for such a thing. Thomas wouldn't you?

:-))

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[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-759799 ] file system support (modules)

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Bugs item #759799, was opened at 2003-06-24 08:25
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Category: Base System
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
>Summary: file system support (modules)

Initial Comment:
JFS support is probably directly compiled into the Kernel.
Must be modules!

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>Comment By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Date: 2003-06-24 09:02

Message:
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user_id=112133

too many file system drivers are compiled directly into the 
kernel.
changes as many as possible so they're modules.

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Feature Roadmap for DL V1.0

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

There's not really a official Roadmap, however:
We have a "Feature Request" and a "Bug Tracking" list on sourceforge.ne=
t.
Unfortunately I had to restrict access to it because everybody could ad=
d
stuff and was messing up our bugtracking.

Attached you find the current lists. For the release we need to fix as =
many
bugs as possible, but we won't add much more from the feature requests.=


cya
  Heiko
(See attached file: dl-bugs.pdf)(See attached file: dl-feature.pdf)

On 06/23/2003 06:27:58 PM John Kiss wrote:
>Does anyone have or created a Feature Roadmap for DL V1.0?
>
>I Looked on the website and found a small discritpion of wanted
>features, but not specifically for version 1.0..
>
>What is missing?  Just need to know so I can spend my time effeciently=
.
>
>Cheers
>
>On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 09:17, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
>> On 06/23/2003 08:55:32 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> >>    A few other things I'll be working on in the weeks to come.
>> >>
>> >>    * APACHE
>> >>    * PHP 4.3.x
>> >>
>> >>    When these are added I wanted to start work on a generic
>> >GPL'ed Web UI
>> >> for Devil Linux, with lots of input of course, unless someone is
>> >already
>> >> working on one?
>> >
>> >I had mentioned writing one before, but haven't started on the _web=
_
>> >interface yet.
>> >
>> >Instead I'm writing a ncurses setup utility, because for the web
>> >interface, you need a network card up and running first.
>> >
>> >A web interface would be a nice addition, and a logical next step.
>> >
>> >I've VERY GLAD to see "PHP" listed above.  Personally, I wouldn't
>> >use anything else to write the web interface.
>>
>> I would fully approve PHP. Didn't do anything with it for a long
>time, but
>> I loved it when I did.
>>
>> >Perhaps we could work together on the web interface?
>>
>> But please first for release 2.0, otherwise we never get 1.0 done.
>>
>> cya
>>   Heiko
>>
>>
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[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-759801 ] ext2/3 warning in initrd

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Bugs item #759801, was opened at 2003-06-24 08:28
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Category: Configuration / Scripts
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: ext2/3 warning in initrd

Initial Comment:
>o When it went to unpack the floppy, it first checked 
for ext3, then 
>ext2,
>then it mounted the floppy.  Has the rules changed and 
are we supposed 
>to
>use ext3/ext2 formatted floppies?  [I am using FAT 
formatted floppies.]

HIDE this warning.

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[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-759799 ] jfs as modules?

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Bugs item #759799, was opened at 2003-06-24 08:25
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Category: Base System
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: jfs as modules?

Initial Comment:
JFS support is probably directly compiled into the Kernel.
Must be modules!

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[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-759794 ] memory usage too high

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Bugs item #759794, was opened at 2003-06-24 08:20
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Category: Base System
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: memory usage too high

Initial Comment:
>While unpacking the OS, (?
reading /cdrom/boot/ramdisk.tar.bz2?), it
>complained that it ran out of memory.  Needless to 
say, this starting
>producing various other errors later on in the boot 
process (file not 
>found,
>unable to link directories, etc.)
>
>The system I am using is a Pentium II based system 
with 64MB of memory.
>Devil-Linux V0.5 leaves about 24MB free.  Devil-Linux 
V0.6Beta left 
>about
>1MB free.


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Hello every Linux Live CD developer,
 
 Sorry! There is a lot of confusion surrounding the registeration,
just click this link and you be in the right place: 
http://www.linuxlivecd.com/developer_regsister.php?sub=new
  You are pre-qualified if:
1. You are project leader or member which develop Linux Live CD Distro.
2. You contribute idea or code toward any part of Linux Live CD Distro(including 
software).
3. You think you have done something for Linux Live CD(require proof), and 
someone from 1 or 2 agree with you.
4. You simply like to develop.
  First you will need to register your personal info., then we verify it, then 
you will emailed a temporary password, you are advised to IMMEDIATELY login and 
change it, then your membership and developer status is OFFICIAL. 
  After we grant your membership and project area access right. You can starta a 
new project, join an old one...etc at Project Manager found on the left side.
or click this link:
http://www.linuxlivecd.com/project/
  Any questions, comments, ideas, suggestions:
E-mail me: ad...@li...
  Sorry again for confusion.

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