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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >Yeah, I love to get away from work, but I still like to keep up with my
> >email (not work related) and read news sites when I'm gone.  Oh well!
> 
> There will only be about 1 Million Emails waiting for you.

No doubt!  :-)

The told us they are about 100 years behind in technology in Copper
Harbor, with a shortage of phone lines (why they don't have them in the
hotel rooms).  And said (seriously) that if we were to move to Copper
Harbor and wanted a phone in our house, we would have to get on a list
and wait for someone to die!

My boss is really paranoid about me being gone, so I'm currently
equipped with two different kinds of cell phones (w/laptop connections),
which may (or may not) have spotty coverage there, and an acoustic
coupler for connecting to pay phones!

Did you know they still make acoustic couplers?  I didn't!  
And yes, they are still as slow as they used to be ...

> >Copper Harbor Michigan.  It's the northern most point in Michigan (not
> >counting Isle Royal National Park which is an island in Lake Superior).
> >
> >>From our home in SW Michigan, it's a full day's drive, probably 14
> >hours.  To put it in prospective, I've driven from our home to Florida
> >in a single day, going in the opposite direction!  :-)
> 
> And you still have you driver license? ;-)

I had a really good radar detector.  :-)

> I treated myself with 4 days Grand Bahamas. It's a dive vacation with my
> local club.
> I also planned to have a few days before and after, I hope I can do it.

That sounds like fun!  I need to take dive classes sometime ...

We'd talked about rafting the entire Colorado River through the Grand
Canyon (277 miles - 7 days) this fall, but it looks like that'll have to
wait another year (at least).  Then I'll REALLY be out of touch!  Maybe
I can get my boss to spring for a satellite phone for that trip.  ;-)

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 07/30/2003 11:45:31 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> >I'm leaving on vacation this weekend, be gone for a week.  We'll be=

>back
>> >the second week of August.  I probably won't have email - no phones=

>in
>> >our hotel room, and cell phone coverage is very limited.
>>
>> That's supposed to be that way for vacation ! Enjoy it!
>
>Yeah, I love to get away from work, but I still like to keep up with m=
y
>email (not work related) and read news sites when I'm gone.  Oh well!

There will only be about 1 Million Emails waiting for you.

>> Where you're going when I may ask?
>
>Copper Harbor Michigan.  It's the northern most point in Michigan (not=

>counting Isle Royal National Park which is an island in Lake Superior)=
.
>
>>From our home in SW Michigan, it's a full day's drive, probably 14
>hours.  To put it in prospective, I've driven from our home to Florida=

>in a single day, going in the opposite direction!  :-)

And you still have you driver license? ;-)

>> I still have to wait another 2 weeks until my vacation starts.....
>:-((
>
>Gives you something to look forward to. :-)   Where are you heading?

I treated myself with 4 days Grand Bahamas. It's a dive vacation with m=
y
local club.
I also planned to have a few days before and after, I hope I can do it.=


cya
  Heiko
=

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >I'm leaving on vacation this weekend, be gone for a week.  We'll be back
> >the second week of August.  I probably won't have email - no phones in
> >our hotel room, and cell phone coverage is very limited.
> 
> That's supposed to be that way for vacation ! Enjoy it!

Yeah, I love to get away from work, but I still like to keep up with my
email (not work related) and read news sites when I'm gone.  Oh well!

> Where you're going when I may ask?

Copper Harbor Michigan.  It's the northern most point in Michigan (not
counting Isle Royal National Park which is an island in Lake Superior).

>From our home in SW Michigan, it's a full day's drive, probably 14
hours.  To put it in prospective, I've driven from our home to Florida
in a single day, going in the opposite direction!  :-)

> I still have to wait another 2 weeks until my vacation starts..... :-((

Gives you something to look forward to. :-)   Where are you heading?

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 07/30/2003 10:52:35 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>Yes, I was very happy to once again see a login prompt!  :->

I believe that. ;-)

>I booted my other copy this morning (all software selected), and it
>works too, although has a few warnings:
>
>ldconfig complains about not being able to link something in libstdc++=

>
>modprobe can't locate /dev/lvm  (starting LVM)
>
>modprobe can't locate /dev/nb
>
>wlan startup script gives a warning about invalid parameters.
>
>hotplug can't synthesize pci hotplug events
>
>Minor stuff!  (at least stuff that I don't use and don't care about ;)=


Yeah those are message we need to take care of at some point.
But I want to have the new initrd process working first.

>> >The only problem I see right now is the code that copies the defaul=
t
>> >configs to a blank media.  (but I haven't looked very hard either ;=
)
>>
>> There where some modifications to the linuxrc script, I could
>accidently
>> have messed something up.
>
>> Don't work on that problem for now, I probably replace the shell by
>> something more limited, but much smaller.
>
>It's all yours.
>
>I just added the single line help text to all services in the setup
>script, and removed the menu selection that loaded packages.
>
>I'm leaving on vacation this weekend, be gone for a week.  We'll be ba=
ck
>the second week of August.  I probably won't have email - no phones in=

>our hotel room, and cell phone coverage is very limited.

That's supposed to be that way for vacation ! Enjoy it!
Where you're going when I may ask?
I still have to wait another 2 weeks until my vacation starts..... :-((=


cya
  Heiko
=

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >> > While you're changing linuxrc, I wonder if it'd be a good idea to
> >> > recreate /etc/Devil-release & /etc/issue & /etc/issue.net _after_ /etc
> >> > is untar'ed from media?
> >> >
> >> > Otherwise they are wrong after updating to a new CD and using an old
> >> > floppy.
> >>
> >> Good idea ! Go ahead and do it.
> >
> >While you're rewriting the script, feel free to include that change. :-)
> >
> >Or I can look at it when I get back ...
> 
> You can do that, I have to much on my plate right now.

No problem.  Let me know when you're done with the script so we don't
clobber each other's changes.

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 07/30/2003 10:54:31 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> > While you're changing linuxrc, I wonder if it'd be a good idea to
>> > recreate /etc/Devil-release & /etc/issue & /etc/issue.net _after_
>/etc
>> > is untar'ed from media?
>> >
>> > Otherwise they are wrong after updating to a new CD and using an o=
ld
>> > floppy.
>>
>> Good idea ! Go ahead and do it.
>
>While you're rewriting the script, feel free to include that change. :=
-)
>
>Or I can look at it when I get back ...

You can do that, I have to much on my plate right now.

cya
  Heiko
=

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> > While you're changing linuxrc, I wonder if it'd be a good idea to
> > recreate /etc/Devil-release & /etc/issue & /etc/issue.net _after_ /etc
> > is untar'ed from media?
> > 
> > Otherwise they are wrong after updating to a new CD and using an old
> > floppy.
>
> Good idea ! Go ahead and do it.

While you're rewriting the script, feel free to include that change. :-)

Or I can look at it when I get back ...

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >I tried the same thing, deleted the files from my floppy and booted the
> >ISO in VMware.  It tried to copy the files to floppy, but failed and
> >rebooted.  So, let me ask you again, did you try booting yours with a
> >_BLANK_ floppy?  Or did you _manually_ copy new files to a floppy?
> 
> To be honest, I always copy the stuff on the config media before I try it.

Ah ha!  Just as I suspected!  :-)
For testing, I just delete the files and let the initial boot 
recreate them.  (being lazy as I am :)

> I currently use a USB flash card.

I use a real floppy diskette in VMware for testing.

> >So, I then manually copied the files to my floppy and booted VMware
> >again.  This time it booted up without warning to a login prompt! :-)
> 
> Aaaaah. Good !

Yes, I was very happy to once again see a login prompt!  :->

I booted my other copy this morning (all software selected), and it
works too, although has a few warnings:

 ldconfig complains about not being able to link something in libstdc++

 modprobe can't locate /dev/lvm  (starting LVM)

 modprobe can't locate /dev/nb

 wlan startup script gives a warning about invalid parameters.

 hotplug can't synthesize pci hotplug events

Minor stuff!  (at least stuff that I don't use and don't care about ;)

> >The only problem I see right now is the code that copies the default
> >configs to a blank media.  (but I haven't looked very hard either ;)
> 
> There where some modifications to the linuxrc script, I could accidently
> have messed something up.

> Don't work on that problem for now, I probably replace the shell by
> something more limited, but much smaller.

It's all yours.

I just added the single line help text to all services in the setup
script, and removed the menu selection that loaded packages.

I'm leaving on vacation this weekend, be gone for a week.  We'll be back
the second week of August.  I probably won't have email - no phones in
our hotel room, and cell phone coverage is very limited.

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 07/29/2003 10:01:01 PM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> > Did you try it with a blank floppy?
>> >
>> > Mine worked the first time for me too (well, almost:)
>> > when I had an old etc.tar.bz2 file left over on my floppy.
>>
>> The problem can't be the floppy, since it is accessed a while after
>the
>> first init.
>> It is even more important that you use the new version, since the bo=
ot
>> scripts changed a bit.
>
>OK, I started a mrproper earlier (limited selection on software), and
>tried it when I got home from the LUG meeting.
>
>Everything is current on this PC because I ran another cvs update just=

>now, and there were no new updates to be found.
>
>I tried the same thing, deleted the files from my floppy and booted th=
e
>ISO in VMware.  It tried to copy the files to floppy, but failed and
>rebooted.  So, let me ask you again, did you try booting yours with a
>_BLANK_ floppy?  Or did you _manually_ copy new files to a floppy?
>
>So, I then manually copied the files to my floppy and booted VMware
>again.  This time it booted up without warning to a login prompt! :-)
>
>The only problem I see right now is the code that copies the default
>configs to a blank media.  (but I haven't looked very hard either ;)

Don't work on that problem for now, I probably replace the shell by
something more limited, but much smaller.

cya
  Heiko
=

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 07/29/2003 10:01:01 PM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> > Did you try it with a blank floppy?
>> >
>> > Mine worked the first time for me too (well, almost:)
>> > when I had an old etc.tar.bz2 file left over on my floppy.
>>
>> The problem can't be the floppy, since it is accessed a while after
>the
>> first init.
>> It is even more important that you use the new version, since the bo=
ot
>> scripts changed a bit.
>
>OK, I started a mrproper earlier (limited selection on software), and
>tried it when I got home from the LUG meeting.
>
>Everything is current on this PC because I ran another cvs update just=

>now, and there were no new updates to be found.
>
>I tried the same thing, deleted the files from my floppy and booted th=
e
>ISO in VMware.  It tried to copy the files to floppy, but failed and
>rebooted.  So, let me ask you again, did you try booting yours with a
>_BLANK_ floppy?  Or did you _manually_ copy new files to a floppy?

To be honest, I always copy the stuff on the config media before I try =
it.
I currently use a USB flash card.

>So, I then manually copied the files to my floppy and booted VMware
>again.  This time it booted up without warning to a login prompt! :-)

Aaaaah. Good !

>The only problem I see right now is the code that copies the default
>configs to a blank media.  (but I haven't looked very hard either ;)

There where some modifications to the linuxrc script, I could accidentl=
y
have messed something up.

There's still more to do, we need to bring down the initial memory
consumption by another 4 MB.

cya
  Heiko
=

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> > Did you try it with a blank floppy?
> > 
> > Mine worked the first time for me too (well, almost:) 
> > when I had an old etc.tar.bz2 file left over on my floppy.
> 
> The problem can't be the floppy, since it is accessed a while after the 
> first init.
> It is even more important that you use the new version, since the boot 
> scripts changed a bit.

OK, I started a mrproper earlier (limited selection on software), and
tried it when I got home from the LUG meeting.

Everything is current on this PC because I ran another cvs update just
now, and there were no new updates to be found.

I tried the same thing, deleted the files from my floppy and booted the
ISO in VMware.  It tried to copy the files to floppy, but failed and
rebooted.  So, let me ask you again, did you try booting yours with a
_BLANK_ floppy?  Or did you _manually_ copy new files to a floppy?

So, I then manually copied the files to my floppy and booted VMware
again.  This time it booted up without warning to a login prompt! :-)

The only problem I see right now is the code that copies the default
configs to a blank media.  (but I haven't looked very hard either ;)

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Bruce Smith wrote:
>>As I said, I have a working fresh build here.
> 
> 
> Did you try it with a blank floppy?
> 
> Mine worked the first time for me too (well, almost:) 
> when I had an old etc.tar.bz2 file left over on my floppy.

The problem can't be the floppy, since it is accessed a while after the 
first init.
It is even more important that you use the new version, since the boot 
scripts changed a bit.


>>Could be that you checked out a bit too early, or just because it's
>>raining, or somebody in China fall off his bike, or.....
> 
> 
> I'll run a mrproper tonight and see if that helps.

OK, keep me posted. It would be good, if you wipe out the LFS system, too.


Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> As I said, I have a working fresh build here.

Did you try it with a blank floppy?

Mine worked the first time for me too (well, almost:) 
when I had an old etc.tar.bz2 file left over on my floppy.

> Could be that you checked out a bit too early, or just because it's
> raining, or somebody in China fall off his bike, or.....

I'll run a mrproper tonight and see if that helps.

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 07/29/2003 04:50:51 PM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> >Kernel panic: No init found.  Try passing init=3D option to kernel.=

>>
>> This option should be based anyway. (in $CDDIR/isolinux.cfg ).
>> My system boots fine. I checked in some more changes which should
>help.
>>
>> Can you start over again? Sorry!
>
>Sure, I'm getting good at starting over!  :-)
>
>I get farther on boot now.  It finds an empty floppy, and asks to copy=

>the config to it, and then it can't find /cdrom and auto reboots.
>
>Then I manually copied etc_tar.bz2 & var_tar.bz2 to floppy, and
>rebooted.  It got farther, but couldn't find files:
>
>/etc/init.d/functions  /etc/sysconfig/config  /etc/sysconfig/software
>
>Then it couldn't find inittab, it ask me to enter a runlevel,
>I entered "3", and it died with no processes left in the runlevel.
>
>At least the kernel isn't crashing any longer.  ;-)
>
>I'd take a look and try to fix some of it now, but I've got to head of=
f
>to my weekly LUG meeting ...  maybe tomorrow.

As I said, I have a working fresh build here.
Could be that you checked out a bit too early, or just because it's
raining, or somebody in China fall off his bike, or.....

cya
  Heiko
=

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] ISO won't boot now.

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 07/29/2003 11:27:19 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>It's just not my day ...   :-(
>
>I hacked the e2fsprogs script to copy the non-static version, so
>I can get past that error.  I built an ISO, and it won't boot.
>
>...
>Freeing initrd memory: 2862k freed
>VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
>Freeing unused kernel memory: 112k freed
>Kernel panic: No init found.  Try passing init=3D option to kernel.

I slowly get all the emails you sent today...
That happens when you don't administrate everything yourself. ;-)

cya
  Heiko
=

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >Kernel panic: No init found.  Try passing init= option to kernel.
> 
> This option should be based anyway. (in $CDDIR/isolinux.cfg ).
> My system boots fine. I checked in some more changes which should help.
> 
> Can you start over again? Sorry!

Sure, I'm getting good at starting over!  :-)

I get farther on boot now.  It finds an empty floppy, and asks to copy
the config to it, and then it can't find /cdrom and auto reboots.

Then I manually copied etc_tar.bz2 & var_tar.bz2 to floppy, and
rebooted.  It got farther, but couldn't find files:

/etc/init.d/functions  /etc/sysconfig/config  /etc/sysconfig/software

Then it couldn't find inittab, it ask me to enter a runlevel, 
I entered "3", and it died with no processes left in the runlevel.

At least the kernel isn't crashing any longer.  ;-)

I'd take a look and try to fix some of it now, but I've got to head off
to my weekly LUG meeting ...  maybe tomorrow.

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Memory usage.

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 07/28/2003 01:47:53 PM "Heiko Zuerker" wrote:
>On 07/28/2003 01:40:47 PM Bruce Smith wrote:
>>> >>I just did a few more changes (already in CVS) and checked the
>>memory usage.
>>> >>You can boot now with only 22 MB of RAM.
>>> >
>>> > Wow!!!
>>>
>>> Just saw that I lied, I used 24 MB.
>>> VMWare doesn't let you select 22MB.

I can boot now with 20 MB RAM.
I don't use uclibc yet, since I have some problems with it.
I'll keep you posted.

Heiko
=

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 07/29/2003 01:56:38 PM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> >FYI, the mke2fs-static file doesn't exist:
>>
>> hmmmm.....
>> I'm currently working on 2 system where I wiped out the lfssystem
>yesterday
>> (including mrproper) and e2fsprogs compiles fine.
>> So I would expect that the problem is on your side, it could be a
>"pebkac"
>> error.
>
>Nah, not this time anyway.  This problem exists in email-hell.
>I sent an message about this early this morning which didn't come
>through until just recently (out of order.  So it only _appears_
>like I said your latest fix didn't work.  :-)
>
>Your latest update to e2fsprogs works fine, thank you.
>
>HOWEVER, I still can't boot the ISO.
>
>I'm still getting:
>Kernel panic: No init found.  Try passing init=3D option to kernel.

I'm just getting near a finished compile, I'll take a look at it once i=
t's
finished.

Heiko
=

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 07/29/2003 01:56:38 PM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> >FYI, the mke2fs-static file doesn't exist:
>>
>> hmmmm.....
>> I'm currently working on 2 system where I wiped out the lfssystem
>yesterday
>> (including mrproper) and e2fsprogs compiles fine.
>> So I would expect that the problem is on your side, it could be a
>"pebkac"
>> error.
>
>Nah, not this time anyway.  This problem exists in email-hell.
>I sent an message about this early this morning which didn't come
>through until just recently (out of order.  So it only _appears_
>like I said your latest fix didn't work.  :-)
>
>Your latest update to e2fsprogs works fine, thank you.
>
>HOWEVER, I still can't boot the ISO.
>
>I'm still getting:
>Kernel panic: No init found.  Try passing init=3D option to kernel.

This option should be based anyway. (in $CDDIR/isolinux.cfg ).
My system boots fine. I checked in some more changes which should help.=


Can you start over again? Sorry!

Heiko
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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >FYI, the mke2fs-static file doesn't exist:
> 
> hmmmm.....
> I'm currently working on 2 system where I wiped out the lfssystem yesterday
> (including mrproper) and e2fsprogs compiles fine.
> So I would expect that the problem is on your side, it could be a "pebkac"
> error.

Nah, not this time anyway.  This problem exists in email-hell.
I sent an message about this early this morning which didn't come
through until just recently (out of order.  So it only _appears_ 
like I said your latest fix didn't work.  :-)

Your latest update to e2fsprogs works fine, thank you.

HOWEVER, I still can't boot the ISO.

I'm still getting:
Kernel panic: No init found.  Try passing init= option to kernel.

Any clue?

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 07/29/2003 09:34:29 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> cp: cannot stat `/data/build/tmp/tmp/sbin/mke2fs-static': No such fi=
le
>> or directory
>
>FYI, the mke2fs-static file doesn't exist:

hmmmm.....
I'm currently working on 2 system where I wiped out the lfssystem yeste=
rday
(including mrproper) and e2fsprogs compiles fine.
So I would expect that the problem is on your side, it could be a "pebk=
ac"
error.

Heiko

P.S. Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair ;-)
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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Boot script.

[Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...>]

On 07/29/2003 09:34:29 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> cp: cannot stat `/data/build/tmp/tmp/sbin/mke2fs-static': No such fi=
le
>> or directory
>
>FYI, the mke2fs-static file doesn't exist:

OOOOOOPPPPPS

I didn't get to the "install" part yet....and there's a problem in the
script.
Update from CVS, it's fixed there.

Heiko

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