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From: Bruce S. <bw...@ar...> - 2003-09-03 21:19:57
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> > >> >> offer a way to change the "VGA=3D" boot parameter.
> > >> >
> > >> >I'll try it!
> > >> >
> > >> >What file do we change? Do you have a list of the VGA=3D values =
handy?
> > >>
> > >> Do the following to quickly try it:
> > >> Go into the Kernel directory and modify it via "make menuconfig".
> > >> Then do a "build/build.sh build opt=3Dlinux" and a "make clean ins=
tall
> > >iso".
> > >
> > >As far as I can tell, it's already turned on. This option is select=
ed:
> > >
> > >=81
> > >CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT:
> > >=81
> >=20
> > This is not the one, you need to turn on VESA Framebuffer support.
Assuming your correct (I'm still skeptical :) When I select frame
buffer support, I get this submenu. What other options do I need here?=20
Just "VESA VGA graphics console"? Fonts? Anything else?
[*] Support for frame buffer devices (EXPERIMENTAL) =
=81 =81
< > nVidia Riva support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Cirrus Logic support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Permedia2 support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Permedia3 support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Cyber2000 support (NEW) =
=81 =81
[ ] VESA VGA graphics console (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > VGA 16-color graphics console (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Hercules mono graphics console (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Matrox acceleration (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > ATI Mach64 display support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > ATI Radeon display support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > ATI Rage128 display support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Intel 830M/845G/852GM/855GM/865G display support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NE=
W) =81 =81
< > SIS acceleration (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > NeoMagic display support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > 3Dfx Banshee/Voodoo3 display support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > 3Dfx Voodoo Graphics (sst1) support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Trident support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Virtual Frame Buffer support (ONLY FOR TESTING!) (EXPERIMENTAL) (NE=
W) =81 =81
[ ] Advanced low level driver options (NEW) =
=81 =81
[ ] Support only 8 pixels wide fonts (NEW) =
=81 =81
[ ] Select compiled-in fonts (NEW) =20
Plus these submenus:
"Select compiled-in fonts" opens up:
=20
[*] VGA 8x8 font =
=81 =81
[*] VGA 8x16 font =
=81 =81
[ ] Sparc console 8x16 font (NEW) =
=81 =81
[ ] Sparc console 12x22 font (not supported by all drivers) (NEW) =
=81 =81
[ ] Mac console 6x11 font (not supported by all drivers) (NEW) =
=81 =81
[ ] Pearl (old m68k) console 8x8 font (NEW) =
=81 =81
[ ] Acorn console 8x8 font (NEW) =
=81 =81
=20
"Advanced low level driver options" opens up:
< > Monochrome support (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > 2 bpp packed pixels support (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > 4 bpp packed pixels support (NEW) =
=81 =81
<*> 8 bpp packed pixels support =
=81 =81
<*> 16 bpp packed pixels support =
=81 =81
<*> 24 bpp packed pixels support =
=81 =81
<*> 32 bpp packed pixels support =
=81 =81
< > Amiga bitplanes support (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Amiga interleaved bitplanes support (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Atari interleaved bitplanes (2 planes) support (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Atari interleaved bitplanes (4 planes) support (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Atari interleaved bitplanes (8 planes) support (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > Mac variable bpp packed pixels support (NEW) =
=81 =81
<*> VGA 16-color planar support =
=81 =81
< > VGA characters/attributes support (NEW) =
=81 =81
< > HGA monochrome support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) =
=81 =81
=20
- BS
|
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From: Bruce S. <bw...@ar...> - 2003-09-03 21:05:30
|
> >> >> offer a way to change the "VGA=3D" boot parameter. > >> > > >> >I'll try it! > >> > > >> >What file do we change? Do you have a list of the VGA=3D values ha= ndy? > >> > >> Do the following to quickly try it: > >> Go into the Kernel directory and modify it via "make menuconfig". > >> Then do a "build/build.sh build opt=3Dlinux" and a "make clean insta= ll > >iso". > > > >As far as I can tell, it's already turned on. This option is selected= : > > > >=81 > >CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT: > >=81 >=20 > This is not the one, you need to turn on VESA Framebuffer support. Are you sure? I added "vga=3Dask" to the APPEND line. =20 In VMware, I get a menu of: =20 Mode: COLSXROWS: 0 0f00 80x25 1 0f01 80x50 2 0f02 80x43 3 0f03 80x28 4 0f05 80x30 5 0f06 80x34 6 0f07 80x60 When I input a number like 1, 2, 3, ... I get really small type. - BS |
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From: Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...> - 2003-09-03 20:46:32
|
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From: Bruce S. <bw...@ar...> - 2003-09-03 20:39:39
|
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 16:27, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> On 09/03/2003 04:07:20 PM Bruce Smith wrote:
> >> for a long time I wanted to add vesa support and run my textmode in =
a
> >> higher resolution.
> >> I didn't do it because I had some issues on some computers.
> >>
> >> But since Bruce wrote that nice script to modify files on the CD, we
> >could
> >> offer a way to change the "VGA=3D" boot parameter.
> >
> >I'll try it!
> >
> >What file do we change? Do you have a list of the VGA=3D values handy=
?
>=20
> Do the following to quickly try it:
> Go into the Kernel directory and modify it via "make menuconfig".
> Then do a "build/build.sh build opt=3Dlinux" and a "make clean install =
iso".
As far as I can tell, it's already turned on. This option is selected:
=81 CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT: =
=81
=81 =
=81
=81 This enables support for text mode selection on kernel startup. If =
=81
=81 you want to take advantage of some high-resolution text mode your =
=81
=81 card's BIOS offers, but the traditional Linux utilities like =
=81
=81 SVGATextMode don't, you can say Y here and set the mode using the =
=81
=81 "vga=3D" option from your boot loader (lilo or loadlin) or set =
=81
=81 "vga=3Dask" which brings up a video mode menu on kernel startup. (T=
ry =81
=81 "man bootparam" or see the documentation of your boot loader about =
=81
=81 how to pass options to the kernel.) =
=81
=81 =
=81
=81 Read the file Documentation/svga.txt for more information =
=81
=81 about the Video mode selection support. If unsure, say N. =
=81
=20
Now to find the loadlin file on the CD where I add "VGA=3D" ...
- BS
|
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From: Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...> - 2003-09-03 20:28:26
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On 09/03/2003 04:07:20 PM Bruce Smith wrote: >> for a long time I wanted to add vesa support and run my textmode in = a >> higher resolution. >> I didn't do it because I had some issues on some computers. >> >> But since Bruce wrote that nice script to modify files on the CD, we= >could >> offer a way to change the "VGA=3D" boot parameter. > >I'll try it! > >What file do we change? Do you have a list of the VGA=3D values handy= ? Do the following to quickly try it: Go into the Kernel directory and modify it via "make menuconfig". Then do a "build/build.sh build opt=3Dlinux" and a "make clean install = iso". cya Heiko = |
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From: Bruce S. <bw...@ar...> - 2003-09-03 20:27:53
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> >You might want to try using the 2.4.21 headers for those compiles and > >see if the resulting binaries run on 2.4.22. > > Hmm.m.... Can't hurt to try ... :-) > >Another option is you can update the CVS and we omit compiling those two > > Those are 2 essential tools. :-(( I don't use them (that I know of). I guess others do. > >packages until they're fixed (like we were doing with krb5 for awhile). > > OOPS, didn't I mention it? krb5 compiles fine now. ;-) Yes, you did. That was only an example. - BS |
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From: Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...> - 2003-09-03 20:26:11
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On 09/03/2003 04:11:25 PM "Dean Nedelman" wrote: >>for a long time I wanted to add vesa support and run my textmode in a= >>higher resolution. >>I didn't do it because I had some issues on some computers. >> >>But since Bruce wrote that nice script to modify files on the CD, we >could >>offer a way to change the "VGA=3D" boot parameter. >> >>What ya'll think about it? > >IF it offered more lines of text on the syslog window - I would be for= >it. >Other than that, I don't expect there would be that much of a need. My understanding is, that all screens will run on the higher resolution= . Heiko = |
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From: Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...> - 2003-09-03 20:25:41
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On 09/03/2003 04:07:20 PM Bruce Smith wrote: >> for a long time I wanted to add vesa support and run my textmode in = a >> higher resolution. >> I didn't do it because I had some issues on some computers. >> >> But since Bruce wrote that nice script to modify files on the CD, we= >could >> offer a way to change the "VGA=3D" boot parameter. > >I'll try it! > >What file do we change? Do you have a list of the VGA=3D values handy= ? # Normal VGA console vga =3D normal # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x64k # vga=3D791 # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x32k # vga=3D790 # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x256 # vga=3D773 # VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x64k # vga=3D788 # VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x32k # vga=3D787 # VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x256 # vga=3D771 # VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x64k # vga=3D785 # VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x32k # vga=3D784 # VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x256 # vga=3D769 But it needs to be compiled into the Kernel first. cya Heiko = |
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From: Bruce S. <bw...@ar...> - 2003-09-03 20:25:30
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> >But since Bruce wrote that nice script to modify files on the CD, we could > >offer a way to change the "VGA=" boot parameter. > > > >What ya'll think about it? > > IF it offered more lines of text on the syslog window - I would be for it. I believe it would offer more lines on ALL VC's. (hardware permitting) - BS |
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From: Dean N. <di...@ti...> - 2003-09-03 20:11:57
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>for a long time I wanted to add vesa support and run my textmode in a >higher resolution. >I didn't do it because I had some issues on some computers. > >But since Bruce wrote that nice script to modify files on the CD, we could >offer a way to change the "VGA=" boot parameter. > >What ya'll think about it? IF it offered more lines of text on the syslog window - I would be for it. Other than that, I don't expect there would be that much of a need. Dean |
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From: Bruce S. <bw...@ar...> - 2003-09-03 20:07:21
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> for a long time I wanted to add vesa support and run my textmode in a > higher resolution. > I didn't do it because I had some issues on some computers. > > But since Bruce wrote that nice script to modify files on the CD, we could > offer a way to change the "VGA=" boot parameter. I'll try it! What file do we change? Do you have a list of the VGA= values handy? - BS |
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From: Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...> - 2003-09-03 20:02:05
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On 09/03/2003 03:38:57 PM Bruce Smith wrote: >> >I tried the latest version with the latest Debian patches and I eve= n >wiped >> >out the lfssystem and started from scratch. >> >Looks like we have to wait a couple more days until somebody writes= >an >> >patch. >> > >> >Do we have nobody on the mailinglist who can fix this? >> >> Sorry. ... > >Ditto, I can do "normal" C programs, but the kernel stuff is beyond me= . > >I read one posting about this error that said it compiles with the >kernel headers from an older kernel. (although I have no idea if it >actually runs on 2.4.22 afterwords :) > >You might want to try using the 2.4.21 headers for those compiles and >see if the resulting binaries run on 2.4.22. Hmm.m.... >Another option is you can update the CVS and we omit compiling those t= wo Those are 2 essential tools. :-(( >packages until they're fixed (like we were doing with krb5 for awhile)= . OOPS, didn't I mention it? krb5 compiles fine now. ;-) cya Heiko = |
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From: Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...> - 2003-09-03 20:00:55
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Hey, for a long time I wanted to add vesa support and run my textmode in a higher resolution. I didn't do it because I had some issues on some computers. But since Bruce wrote that nice script to modify files on the CD, we co= uld offer a way to change the "VGA=3D" boot parameter. What ya'll think about it? cya Heiko = |
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From: Bruce S. <bw...@ar...> - 2003-09-03 19:38:59
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> >I tried the latest version with the latest Debian patches and I even wiped > >out the lfssystem and started from scratch. > >Looks like we have to wait a couple more days until somebody writes an > >patch. > > > >Do we have nobody on the mailinglist who can fix this? > > Sorry. ... Ditto, I can do "normal" C programs, but the kernel stuff is beyond me. I read one posting about this error that said it compiles with the kernel headers from an older kernel. (although I have no idea if it actually runs on 2.4.22 afterwords :) You might want to try using the 2.4.21 headers for those compiles and see if the resulting binaries run on 2.4.22. Another option is you can update the CVS and we omit compiling those two packages until they're fixed (like we were doing with krb5 for awhile). - BS |
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From: Dean N. <di...@ti...> - 2003-09-03 19:23:53
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>I tried the latest version with the latest Debian patches and I even wiped >out the lfssystem and started from scratch. >Looks like we have to wait a couple more days until somebody writes an >patch. > >Do we have nobody on the mailinglist who can fix this? Sorry. My Linux development system is Redhat based, and I run the Redhat kernels and utilities. (I.e., I never download and compile my own kernels [though I have recompiled the kernel from Redhat], and I almost never download and compile utilities that were included with Redhat [though I have been known to make exceptions for utilities were I don't want to wait the 6-9 months for Redhat, especially IDEs!].) I don't have the resources to setup a development environment for this. Dean Nedelman TimeLord Consulting |
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From: Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...> - 2003-09-03 19:04:51
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On 09/03/2003 02:03:55 PM Bruce Smith wrote: >> can somebody with C background please look why iproute2/iputils >doesn't >> compile with Kernel 2.4.22 ? > >I did some searching and found a couple other people with the same >problem, but I didn't find any solution. > >It also appears to me that we don't have the latest version of either = in >our src directory. Have you tried newer versions of iproute2/iputils?= >I have no idea if that'll help or not, but seems like it's worth a try= . > >ftp://ftp.inr.ac.ru/ip-routing/ I tried the latest version with the latest Debian patches and I even wi= ped out the lfssystem and started from scratch. Looks like we have to wait a couple more days until somebody writes an patch. Do we have nobody on the mailinglist who can fix this? Heiko = |
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From: Bruce S. <bw...@ar...> - 2003-09-03 18:04:03
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> can somebody with C background please look why iproute2/iputils doesn't > compile with Kernel 2.4.22 ? I did some searching and found a couple other people with the same problem, but I didn't find any solution. It also appears to me that we don't have the latest version of either in our src directory. Have you tried newer versions of iproute2/iputils? I have no idea if that'll help or not, but seems like it's worth a try. ftp://ftp.inr.ac.ru/ip-routing/ - BS |
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From: <no...@fr...> - 2003-09-03 03:08:12
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This email is to inform you about the release of version '2.4.2b3' of 'ppp' through freshmeat.net. All URLs and other useful information can be found at http://freshmeat.net/projects/pppd/ The changes in this release are as follows: This version features support for MS-CHAP 2 authentication, plus support for authenticating the peer with MS-CHAP 1 or 2, MPPE, CBCP updates, EAP, PPPOE, a password-via-pipe plugin, Solaris updates, ECB, Radius plugin code, extra hooks for plugins, a maxoctets option, ipcp-no-addresses and ipcp-no-address options, remotenumber and allow-number options, and several bugfixes, including potential buffer overflows in chat. Project description: PPP Daemon for Linux, Solaris 2, *BSD, SunOS 4, Digital Unix, SVR4, NeXTStep, and Ultrix. This allows Unix machines to connect to the internet through dialup lines, using the PPP protocol, as a PPP server or client. Works with 'chat', 'dip', and 'diald', among (many) others. Supports IP, TCP, UDP and (for Linux) IPX (Novell). If you would like to cancel subscription to releases of this project, login to freshmeat.net and choose 'home' from the personal menubar at the top of the page. You'll be presented with a list of projects you're subscribed to in the right column, which you may cancel by highlighting the project in question and clicking the 'delete' button. Sincerely, freshmeat.net |
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From: Heiko Z. <he...@zu...> - 2003-09-03 01:50:29
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Dean Nedelman wrote: >>>If you want, I can probably do this. I have written several technology >>>white papers before. I would just need to know about how long you would >>>want it, and if there were any features you wanted highlighted. (For >>>example, I would not be the person to talk about the OpenMOSIX.) >> >>Now it gets even better. >>Why don't you 2 write that thing and I answer all the questions you have. >>Then I can concentrate my time more on developing stuff, just add me as a >>co-author. ;-) > > > I could think of several different types of articles: > > o An "announcement" of DL 1.0, what it is, and what has changed since the > 0.5 release. This would be a 10,000 foot view of DL. > > o An installation writeup describing a basic two nic, NAT, DHCP, Firewall > setup (using Bruce's scripts, of course!). > > o A DL advocacy paper, describing the problem it solves and why people > should use it. > > These are all different types of articles - and I see all three of these > types all the time. Which would does everybody think we should use? I think the first 2 are necessary, the third one would be very good on our website. > Also, I am comfortable using two different writing styles - a standard > serious style, or a lighter style which might include comments like "Its a > home firewall! Its a Business firewall! No, wait - its two, two firewalls > in one!". Any objection to the later style? I personally prefer the last style. For one thing it doesn't get boring and DL is our hobby. We just need to make clear, that we offer a "serious product". cya Heiko |
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From: Dean N. <di...@ti...> - 2003-09-03 01:34:52
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>> >>If you want, I can probably do this. I have written several technology >>white papers before. I would just need to know about how long you would >>want it, and if there were any features you wanted highlighted. (For >>example, I would not be the person to talk about the OpenMOSIX.) > >Now it gets even better. >Why don't you 2 write that thing and I answer all the questions you have. >Then I can concentrate my time more on developing stuff, just add me as a >co-author. ;-) I could think of several different types of articles: o An "announcement" of DL 1.0, what it is, and what has changed since the 0.5 release. This would be a 10,000 foot view of DL. o An installation writeup describing a basic two nic, NAT, DHCP, Firewall setup (using Bruce's scripts, of course!). o A DL advocacy paper, describing the problem it solves and why people should use it. These are all different types of articles - and I see all three of these types all the time. Which would does everybody think we should use? Also, I am comfortable using two different writing styles - a standard serious style, or a lighter style which might include comments like "Its a home firewall! Its a Business firewall! No, wait - its two, two firewalls in one!". Any objection to the later style? Dean Nedelman TimeLord Consulting |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2003-09-03 00:43:39
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Bugs item #799495, was opened at 2003-09-02 19:43 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=410643&aid=799495&group_id=34096 Category: Configuration / Scripts Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: ISO clean-up Initial Comment: There are a lot of unnecessary files/directories on the ISO image. E.g. /usr/man , /usr/include, /usr/lib/*.a *.la ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=410643&aid=799495&group_id=34096 |
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From: Heiko Z. <he...@zu...> - 2003-09-02 23:15:32
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Hey, can somebody with C background please look why iproute2/iputils doesn't compile with Kernel 2.4.22 ? cya Heiko |
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From: Bruce S. <bw...@ar...> - 2003-09-02 22:13:55
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> Just to through in my two cents, there are some free products available that > would let you do a point-to-point voice call over the Internet: > > http://www.sippstar.com/en/index.html > > http://www.xten.com/ > > http://www.sjlabs.com Good idea, Thanks! I haven't tried those, but I've had pretty good luck with this GPL one on Linux & Windows: (although I haven't used it for some time) http://www.speakfreely.org/ - BS |
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From: Dean N. <di...@ti...> - 2003-09-02 21:21:13
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>I get free night (after 9PM) and weekend minutes & long distance on my >cell phone. Other than that, charges apply on my phones. (unless I was >to stay late and call at 5:00PM from work :) Just to through in my two cents, there are some free products available that would let you do a point-to-point voice call over the Internet: http://www.sippstar.com/en/index.html http://www.xten.com/ http://www.sjlabs.com Not that it impacts me per se, but I thought I would mention in. Dean |
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From: Heiko Z. <hz...@pr...> - 2003-09-02 21:09:52
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On 09/02/2003 04:49:02 PM Bruce Smith wrote: >> Do I HATE spam ! > >Me too! And I loved your reply! :-) Yeah, from time to time I reply, but never get an answer....I don't understand why.....*lol* Heiko = |
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