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From: <el...@ya...> - 2004-09-08 22:12:08
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So we need to create the GUI system and a interface to access it form plugins (Plugin SDK). I'll leave the GUI for another moment. So we need to provide a way to call DaVinci functions from plugins. My first idea is to let plugins resolve DaVinci symbols and use them. I'm not sure it's possible or portable. My other idea is to make davinci "export" it's sysbols by putting them in predefinded adresses. What do you think? |
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From: <el...@ya...> - 2004-09-08 21:50:15
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Taj Morton escribió: > Exelent. My only concern is that forms or menuitems should be > registered and created by loaded plugins (by registering their symbols > etc.) I agree. > I was thinking of having a TPlugins object which would manage all the > TPlugin that were loaded. TPlugins would have functions like > RegisterSymbol, RegisterMenuItem, etc. Wait a second. What do you mean by Symbol? > RegisterSymbol could be used to maintain a list of all loaded symbols, > making it a little eaiser to resolve dependencies. Huh? > RegisterMenuItem could add items to another object (or 2D array), and > would contain entries like ShowName (string), Events (collection of > TEvent). > I think an object or a recursive structure would be better. > TEvent would be a record/object with TEventName enum [sorry, I forgot > what it is under Pascal!] (OnClick, OnMouseOver, etc), and a pointer > to the function. > Do you mean a Pascal Enum? ;) I don't see why an enum would help here, wouldn't procedural types be more convenient? That's what Delphi use. > What do you think? Implementation shouldn't be hard, but you never know. > Well, we'll never know unless we start implementing. >> > Cool, downloading code from CVS right now. I'll let you know as soon > as I get home. > > We really need our plugin implentation guide completed... > Basically is implementing Start, Stop and GetPluginInfo, that can't be that hard :D. > Bye! > |
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From: <el...@ya...> - 2004-09-08 21:45:41
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Paul Hampson escribió: >Why can we not have forms in shared libraries? A programming thing or >something else? > >Paul > > > That's all explained in the mail i sent you and was filtered out. I'm going to summarize it here: 1. Paul's program segfaults on line 124 of Plugins.pas: the dlOpen call. 2. The prescense of TSynMemo in the uses clause causes this. 3. With no TSynMemo's program segfauls whenever it tries to display form. 4. Removing all Forms from defaultplugin and loading it in Paul's davinci works. 5. Problem is on Forms.pp 6. We should not use LCL calls directly in plugins. Instead we should use DaVinci plugin SDK. 7. We must start writing GUI system now that the plugin system is perfect. >On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 04:28, Elio Cuevas Gómez wrote: > > >>Hi. I wrote a couple of emails yesterday but were confussed as spam and >>never made it here. >>Well they only said that Forms in shared libraries just can't happen and >>some more detailed debugging. >> >> >>Paul Hampson escribió: >> >> >> >>>Hi all, >>> >>>Remember that DaVinci project? Well, I did some development this >>>evening, knocked out an extremely rough GUI and integrated the code that >>>you both did earlier with the plugins (and tried to extend, but more on >>>that later). The initial menu that comes up is loaded from an INI file, >>>and that holds the configured plugin names etc. >>> >>>I also experimented with adding forms to shared objects (this could be >>>useful for the syntax editors for the plugins), but that's where i have >>>got stuck. I was using this site ( >>>http://www.developers.demon.co.uk/formdll.html ) as a very rough guide, >>>but you'll have to look at the source I knocked out, you can get it from >>>http://www.linux-hoster.co.uk/davinci/davinci-paul-04092004.tar.gz . You >>>will probably want to change the paths in the INI file in the `davinci` >>>directory to the local ones for you as they are absolute paths, I will >>>code an 'install plugin' system sometime. >>> >>>Hope this all jolts you into action, >>>Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >>>FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >>>Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >>>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click >>>_______________________________________________ >>>davinci-develop mailing list >>>dav...@li... >>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >>FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >>Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click >>_______________________________________________ >>davinci-develop mailing list >>dav...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop >> >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idP47&alloc_id808&op=click >_______________________________________________ >davinci-develop mailing list >dav...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop > > > |
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From: Paul H. <p.h...@ds...> - 2004-09-07 16:24:03
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Yeh, that's fair enough. I just wasnt sure how to restructure it as I had basically started from nothing, built a GUI and then added your code, so it wasn't a case of revising. So i just wanted to make sure I didnt muck up anything :p=20 Feel free to arrange it how you want. Paul On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 04:34, Elio Cuevas G=C3=B3mez wrote: > Hhhmm i think /gui/ should be inside davinci module since is a part of=20 > DaVinci just like /plugin/ and /core/. Actually i already started work=20 > in the GUI system a few months ago but never commited since it was very= =20 > trivial work. Well I'll commit now, the work is still as it was but=20 > should be an starting point: it's the beginning of DaVinci's "toolkit". >=20 > Paul Hampson escribi=C3=B3: >=20 > >Ok, so I created a new module called davinci-gui to stop confusion and > >created another to hold the test plugin call test-plugin, however > >whenever I check the test-plugin or original davinci modules out I get > >permission denied errors, but the davinci-gui one is fine, weird. Anyo= ne > >else getting this? If I have done something wrong please tell me :p > > > >Anyway, if you cant get at the code then its still up for download at = my > >site as given earlier. > > > >Paul > > > >On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 07:01, Elio Cuevas G=C3=B3mez wrote: > > =20 > > > >>Paul Hampson escribi=C3=B3: > >> > >> =20 > >> > >>>Hi all, > >>> > >>>Remember that DaVinci project? > >>> > >>> =20 > >>> > >>Huh? DaVinci? It sounds familiar... Oh yeah! :) > >> > >> =20 > >> > >>>Well, I did some development this > >>>evening, knocked out an extremely rough GUI and integrated the code = that > >>>you both did earlier with the plugins (and tried to extend, but more= on > >>>that later). > >>> > >>> =20 > >>> > >>Wow! really? Cool! The GUI thingy is what i was afraid of ;) > >> > >> =20 > >> > >>>The initial menu that comes up is loaded from an INI file, > >>>and that holds the configured plugin names etc.=20 > >>>=20 > >>> > >>> =20 > >>> > >>Clever hack! > >> > >> =20 > >> > >>>I also experimented with adding forms to shared objects (this could = be > >>>useful for the syntax editors for the plugins), but that's where i h= ave > >>>got stuck. I was using this site ( > >>>http://www.developers.demon.co.uk/formdll.html ) as a very rough gui= de, > >>>but you'll have to look at the source I knocked out, you can get it = from > >>>http://www.linux-hoster.co.uk/davinci/davinci-paul-04092004.tar.gz. > >>> > >>> =20 > >>> > >>I'll check the code in a minute when i die (playing Nethack, don't wo= rry=20 > >>i allways die by floor 9, d'oh). > >>Why don't submit your changes to CVS? That way we can sync up better. > >> > >> =20 > >> > >>>You > >>>will probably want to change the paths in the INI file in the `davin= ci` > >>>directory to the local ones for you as they are absolute paths, I wi= ll > >>>code an 'install plugin' system sometime. > >>> > >>>Hope this all jolts you into action, > >>>Paul > >>> > >>>=20 > >>> > >>> =20 > >>> > >>It seems like Taj has been busy with his cool Linux distro and i have= =20 > >>been toying with my lame game :D. > >>Well i'll have some work for a few days (have to do some boring datab= ase=20 > >>for Windows and a not so boring webpage) , but i will steal some minu= tes=20 > >>from that to code a bit now that interest in DV has been renewed ;). > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > >>FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > >>Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D5047&alloc_id=3D10808&op=3Dclick > >>_______________________________________________ > >>davinci-develop mailing list > >>dav...@li... > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop > >> > >> =20 > >> > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > >FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > >Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idP47&alloc_id=10808&op=3Dclick > >_______________________________________________ > >davinci-develop mailing list > >dav...@li... > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop > > > > =20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D5047&alloc_id=3D10808&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > davinci-develop mailing list > dav...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop |
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From: Paul H. <p.h...@ds...> - 2004-09-07 16:23:45
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Why can we not have forms in shared libraries? A programming thing or something else? Paul On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 04:28, Elio Cuevas G=C3=B3mez wrote: > Hi. I wrote a couple of emails yesterday but were confussed as spam and= =20 > never made it here. > Well they only said that Forms in shared libraries just can't happen an= d=20 > some more detailed debugging. >=20 >=20 > Paul Hampson escribi=C3=B3: >=20 > >Hi all, > > > >Remember that DaVinci project? Well, I did some development this > >evening, knocked out an extremely rough GUI and integrated the code th= at > >you both did earlier with the plugins (and tried to extend, but more o= n > >that later). The initial menu that comes up is loaded from an INI file= , > >and that holds the configured plugin names etc.=20 > > > >I also experimented with adding forms to shared objects (this could be > >useful for the syntax editors for the plugins), but that's where i hav= e > >got stuck. I was using this site ( > >http://www.developers.demon.co.uk/formdll.html ) as a very rough guide= , > >but you'll have to look at the source I knocked out, you can get it fr= om > >http://www.linux-hoster.co.uk/davinci/davinci-paul-04092004.tar.gz . Y= ou > >will probably want to change the paths in the INI file in the `davinci= ` > >directory to the local ones for you as they are absolute paths, I will > >code an 'install plugin' system sometime. > > > >Hope this all jolts you into action, > >Paul > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > >FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > >Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D5047&alloc_id=3D10808&op=3Dclick > >_______________________________________________ > >davinci-develop mailing list > >dav...@li... > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop > > > > =20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D5047&alloc_id=3D10808&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > davinci-develop mailing list > dav...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop |
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From: Paul H. <pau...@li...> - 2004-09-07 16:21:54
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Why can we not have forms in shared libraries? A programming thing or somthing else? Paul On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 04:28, Elio Cuevas G=C3=B3mez wrote: > Hi. I wrote a couple of emails yesterday but were confussed as spam and= =20 > never made it here. > Well they only said that Forms in shared libraries just can't happen an= d=20 > some more detailed debugging. >=20 >=20 > Paul Hampson escribi=C3=B3: >=20 > >Hi all, > > > >Remember that DaVinci project? Well, I did some development this > >evening, knocked out an extremely rough GUI and integrated the code th= at > >you both did earlier with the plugins (and tried to extend, but more o= n > >that later). The initial menu that comes up is loaded from an INI file= , > >and that holds the configured plugin names etc.=20 > > > >I also experimented with adding forms to shared objects (this could be > >useful for the syntax editors for the plugins), but that's where i hav= e > >got stuck. I was using this site ( > >http://www.developers.demon.co.uk/formdll.html ) as a very rough guide= , > >but you'll have to look at the source I knocked out, you can get it fr= om > >http://www.linux-hoster.co.uk/davinci/davinci-paul-04092004.tar.gz . Y= ou > >will probably want to change the paths in the INI file in the `davinci= ` > >directory to the local ones for you as they are absolute paths, I will > >code an 'install plugin' system sometime. > > > >Hope this all jolts you into action, > >Paul > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > >FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > >Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D5047&alloc_id=3D10808&op=3Dclick > >_______________________________________________ > >davinci-develop mailing list > >dav...@li... > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop > > > > =20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D5047&alloc_id=3D10808&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > davinci-develop mailing list > dav...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop |
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From: Paul H. <pau...@li...> - 2004-09-07 16:21:14
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Yeh, that's fair enough. I just wasnt sure how to restructure it as I had basically started from nothing, built a GUI and then added your code, so it wasn't a case of revising. So i just wanted to make sure I didnt muck up anything :p=20 Feel free to arrange it how you want. Paul On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 04:34, Elio Cuevas G=C3=B3mez wrote: > Hhhmm i think /gui/ should be inside davinci module since is a part of=20 > DaVinci just like /plugin/ and /core/. Actually i already started work=20 > in the GUI system a few months ago but never commited since it was very= =20 > trivial work. Well I'll commit now, the work is still as it was but=20 > should be an starting point: it's the beginning of DaVinci's "toolkit". >=20 > Paul Hampson escribi=C3=B3: >=20 > >Ok, so I created a new module called davinci-gui to stop confusion and > >created another to hold the test plugin call test-plugin, however > >whenever I check the test-plugin or original davinci modules out I get > >permission denied errors, but the davinci-gui one is fine, weird. Anyo= ne > >else getting this? If I have done something wrong please tell me :p > > > >Anyway, if you cant get at the code then its still up for download at = my > >site as given earlier. > > > >Paul > > > >On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 07:01, Elio Cuevas G=C3=B3mez wrote: > > =20 > > > >>Paul Hampson escribi=C3=B3: > >> > >> =20 > >> > >>>Hi all, > >>> > >>>Remember that DaVinci project? > >>> > >>> =20 > >>> > >>Huh? DaVinci? It sounds familiar... Oh yeah! :) > >> > >> =20 > >> > >>>Well, I did some development this > >>>evening, knocked out an extremely rough GUI and integrated the code = that > >>>you both did earlier with the plugins (and tried to extend, but more= on > >>>that later). > >>> > >>> =20 > >>> > >>Wow! really? Cool! The GUI thingy is what i was afraid of ;) > >> > >> =20 > >> > >>>The initial menu that comes up is loaded from an INI file, > >>>and that holds the configured plugin names etc.=20 > >>>=20 > >>> > >>> =20 > >>> > >>Clever hack! > >> > >> =20 > >> > >>>I also experimented with adding forms to shared objects (this could = be > >>>useful for the syntax editors for the plugins), but that's where i h= ave > >>>got stuck. I was using this site ( > >>>http://www.developers.demon.co.uk/formdll.html ) as a very rough gui= de, > >>>but you'll have to look at the source I knocked out, you can get it = from > >>>http://www.linux-hoster.co.uk/davinci/davinci-paul-04092004.tar.gz. > >>> > >>> =20 > >>> > >>I'll check the code in a minute when i die (playing Nethack, don't wo= rry=20 > >>i allways die by floor 9, d'oh). > >>Why don't submit your changes to CVS? That way we can sync up better. > >> > >> =20 > >> > >>>You > >>>will probably want to change the paths in the INI file in the `davin= ci` > >>>directory to the local ones for you as they are absolute paths, I wi= ll > >>>code an 'install plugin' system sometime. > >>> > >>>Hope this all jolts you into action, > >>>Paul > >>> > >>>=20 > >>> > >>> =20 > >>> > >>It seems like Taj has been busy with his cool Linux distro and i have= =20 > >>been toying with my lame game :D. > >>Well i'll have some work for a few days (have to do some boring datab= ase=20 > >>for Windows and a not so boring webpage) , but i will steal some minu= tes=20 > >>from that to code a bit now that interest in DV has been renewed ;). > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > >>FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > >>Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D5047&alloc_id=3D10808&op=3Dclick > >>_______________________________________________ > >>davinci-develop mailing list > >>dav...@li... > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop > >> > >> =20 > >> > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > >FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > >Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idP47&alloc_id=10808&op=3Dclick > >_______________________________________________ > >davinci-develop mailing list > >dav...@li... > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop > > > > =20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D5047&alloc_id=3D10808&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > davinci-develop mailing list > dav...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop |
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From: Taj M. <ta...@wi...> - 2004-09-07 14:45:30
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Paul Hampson wrote: >Hi all, > >Remember that DaVinci project? Well, I did some development this >evening, > Neat! Yeah, I kind of remember DaVinci, he was some come kind of painter, right? Oh...*that* DaVinci. Of course! :P >knocked out an extremely rough GUI and integrated the code that >you both did earlier with the plugins (and tried to extend, but more on >that later). The initial menu that comes up is loaded from an INI file, >and that holds the configured plugin names etc. > > Exelent. My only concern is that forms or menuitems should be registered and created by loaded plugins (by registering their symbols etc.) I was thinking of having a TPlugins object which would manage all the TPlugin that were loaded. TPlugins would have functions like RegisterSymbol, RegisterMenuItem, etc. RegisterSymbol could be used to maintain a list of all loaded symbols, making it a little eaiser to resolve dependencies. RegisterMenuItem could add items to another object (or 2D array), and would contain entries like ShowName (string), Events (collection of TEvent). TEvent would be a record/object with TEventName enum [sorry, I forgot what it is under Pascal!] (OnClick, OnMouseOver, etc), and a pointer to the function. What do you think? Implementation shouldn't be hard, but you never know. >I also experimented with adding forms to shared objects (this could be >useful for the syntax editors for the plugins), but that's where i have >got stuck. I was using this site ( >http://www.developers.demon.co.uk/formdll.html ) as a very rough guide, >but you'll have to look at the source I knocked out, you can get it from >http://www.linux-hoster.co.uk/davinci/davinci-paul-04092004.tar.gz . You >will probably want to change the paths in the INI file in the `davinci` >directory to the local ones for you as they are absolute paths, I will >code an 'install plugin' system sometime. > > Cool, downloading code from CVS right now. I'll let you know as soon as I get home. We really need our plugin implentation guide completed... Bye! -- Taj http://www.wildgardenseed.com/Taj/blog "Those who give up liberty for the sake of security deserve neither liberty nor security." --Ben Franklin |
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From: Taj M. <ta...@wi...> - 2004-09-07 03:55:38
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Hi Elio, Paul, First off, sorry for my lack of responce to these threads. I've been pretty busy lately :D. I'll try and catch up tonight and tomorrow morning. > Hhhmm i think /gui/ should be inside davinci module since is a part of > DaVinci just like /plugin/ and /core/. I'm inclined to agree with Elio on this. That way we can package everything together and make it easy to create tarballs :P. However what you guys think about having a plugins module for the "extra" plugins? > Actually i already started work in the GUI system a few months ago but > never commited since it was very trivial work. Well I'll commit now, > the work is still as it was but should be an starting point: it's the > beginning of DaVinci's "toolkit". Great, look forward to it! I'll get to the other emails tomorrow. Bye! -- Taj http://www.wildgardenseed.com/Taj/blog "Those who give up liberty for the sake of security deserve neither liberty nor security." --Ben Franklin |
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From: <el...@ya...> - 2004-09-07 03:34:13
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Hhhmm i think /gui/ should be inside davinci module since is a part of DaVinci just like /plugin/ and /core/. Actually i already started work in the GUI system a few months ago but never commited since it was very trivial work. Well I'll commit now, the work is still as it was but should be an starting point: it's the beginning of DaVinci's "toolkit". Paul Hampson escribió: >Ok, so I created a new module called davinci-gui to stop confusion and >created another to hold the test plugin call test-plugin, however >whenever I check the test-plugin or original davinci modules out I get >permission denied errors, but the davinci-gui one is fine, weird. Anyone >else getting this? If I have done something wrong please tell me :p > >Anyway, if you cant get at the code then its still up for download at my >site as given earlier. > >Paul > >On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 07:01, Elio Cuevas Gómez wrote: > > >>Paul Hampson escribió: >> >> >> >>>Hi all, >>> >>>Remember that DaVinci project? >>> >>> >>> >>Huh? DaVinci? It sounds familiar... Oh yeah! :) >> >> >> >>>Well, I did some development this >>>evening, knocked out an extremely rough GUI and integrated the code that >>>you both did earlier with the plugins (and tried to extend, but more on >>>that later). >>> >>> >>> >>Wow! really? Cool! The GUI thingy is what i was afraid of ;) >> >> >> >>>The initial menu that comes up is loaded from an INI file, >>>and that holds the configured plugin names etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Clever hack! >> >> >> >>>I also experimented with adding forms to shared objects (this could be >>>useful for the syntax editors for the plugins), but that's where i have >>>got stuck. I was using this site ( >>>http://www.developers.demon.co.uk/formdll.html ) as a very rough guide, >>>but you'll have to look at the source I knocked out, you can get it from >>>http://www.linux-hoster.co.uk/davinci/davinci-paul-04092004.tar.gz. >>> >>> >>> >>I'll check the code in a minute when i die (playing Nethack, don't worry >>i allways die by floor 9, d'oh). >>Why don't submit your changes to CVS? That way we can sync up better. >> >> >> >>>You >>>will probably want to change the paths in the INI file in the `davinci` >>>directory to the local ones for you as they are absolute paths, I will >>>code an 'install plugin' system sometime. >>> >>>Hope this all jolts you into action, >>>Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>It seems like Taj has been busy with his cool Linux distro and i have >>been toying with my lame game :D. >>Well i'll have some work for a few days (have to do some boring database >>for Windows and a not so boring webpage) , but i will steal some minutes >>from that to code a bit now that interest in DV has been renewed ;). >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >>FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >>Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click >>_______________________________________________ >>davinci-develop mailing list >>dav...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop >> >> >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idP47&alloc_id808&op=click >_______________________________________________ >davinci-develop mailing list >dav...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop > > > |
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From: <el...@ya...> - 2004-09-07 03:28:36
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Hi. I wrote a couple of emails yesterday but were confussed as spam and never made it here. Well they only said that Forms in shared libraries just can't happen and some more detailed debugging. Paul Hampson escribió: >Hi all, > >Remember that DaVinci project? Well, I did some development this >evening, knocked out an extremely rough GUI and integrated the code that >you both did earlier with the plugins (and tried to extend, but more on >that later). The initial menu that comes up is loaded from an INI file, >and that holds the configured plugin names etc. > >I also experimented with adding forms to shared objects (this could be >useful for the syntax editors for the plugins), but that's where i have >got stuck. I was using this site ( >http://www.developers.demon.co.uk/formdll.html ) as a very rough guide, >but you'll have to look at the source I knocked out, you can get it from >http://www.linux-hoster.co.uk/davinci/davinci-paul-04092004.tar.gz . You >will probably want to change the paths in the INI file in the `davinci` >directory to the local ones for you as they are absolute paths, I will >code an 'install plugin' system sometime. > >Hope this all jolts you into action, >Paul > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop >FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! >Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047&alloc_id=10808&op=click >_______________________________________________ >davinci-develop mailing list >dav...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop > > > |
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From: Paul H. <p.h...@ds...> - 2004-09-06 18:49:23
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My mistake, it was my local permissions that were wrong... I should read error messages more carefully :s (i'm using gCVS you see) [slaps wrist] Paul On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 19:42, Paul Hampson wrote: > Ok, so I created a new module called davinci-gui to stop confusion and > created another to hold the test plugin call test-plugin, however > whenever I check the test-plugin or original davinci modules out I get > permission denied errors, but the davinci-gui one is fine, weird. Anyon= e > else getting this? If I have done something wrong please tell me :p >=20 > Anyway, if you cant get at the code then its still up for download at m= y > site as given earlier. >=20 > Paul >=20 > On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 07:01, Elio Cuevas G=C3=B3mez wrote: > > Paul Hampson escribi=C3=B3: > >=20 > > >Hi all, > > > > > >Remember that DaVinci project? > > > > > Huh? DaVinci? It sounds familiar... Oh yeah! :) > >=20 > > > Well, I did some development this > > >evening, knocked out an extremely rough GUI and integrated the code = that > > >you both did earlier with the plugins (and tried to extend, but more= on > > >that later). > > > > > Wow! really? Cool! The GUI thingy is what i was afraid of ;) > >=20 > > > The initial menu that comes up is loaded from an INI file, > > >and that holds the configured plugin names etc.=20 > > > =20 > > > > > Clever hack! > >=20 > > >I also experimented with adding forms to shared objects (this could = be > > >useful for the syntax editors for the plugins), but that's where i h= ave > > >got stuck. I was using this site ( > > >http://www.developers.demon.co.uk/formdll.html ) as a very rough gui= de, > > >but you'll have to look at the source I knocked out, you can get it = from > > >http://www.linux-hoster.co.uk/davinci/davinci-paul-04092004.tar.gz. > > > > > I'll check the code in a minute when i die (playing Nethack, don't wo= rry=20 > > i allways die by floor 9, d'oh). > > Why don't submit your changes to CVS? That way we can sync up better. > >=20 > > > You > > >will probably want to change the paths in the INI file in the `davin= ci` > > >directory to the local ones for you as they are absolute paths, I wi= ll > > >code an 'install plugin' system sometime. > > > > > >Hope this all jolts you into action, > > >Paul > > > > > > =20 > > > > > It seems like Taj has been busy with his cool Linux distro and i have= =20 > > been toying with my lame game :D. > > Well i'll have some work for a few days (have to do some boring datab= ase=20 > > for Windows and a not so boring webpage) , but i will steal some minu= tes=20 > > from that to code a bit now that interest in DV has been renewed ;). > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D5047&alloc_id=3D10808&op=3Dclick > > _______________________________________________ > > davinci-develop mailing list > > dav...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idP47&alloc_id=10808&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > davinci-develop mailing list > dav...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop |
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From: Paul H. <p.h...@ds...> - 2004-09-06 18:42:30
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Ok, so I created a new module called davinci-gui to stop confusion and created another to hold the test plugin call test-plugin, however whenever I check the test-plugin or original davinci modules out I get permission denied errors, but the davinci-gui one is fine, weird. Anyone else getting this? If I have done something wrong please tell me :p Anyway, if you cant get at the code then its still up for download at my site as given earlier. Paul On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 07:01, Elio Cuevas G=C3=B3mez wrote: > Paul Hampson escribi=C3=B3: >=20 > >Hi all, > > > >Remember that DaVinci project? > > > Huh? DaVinci? It sounds familiar... Oh yeah! :) >=20 > > Well, I did some development this > >evening, knocked out an extremely rough GUI and integrated the code th= at > >you both did earlier with the plugins (and tried to extend, but more o= n > >that later). > > > Wow! really? Cool! The GUI thingy is what i was afraid of ;) >=20 > > The initial menu that comes up is loaded from an INI file, > >and that holds the configured plugin names etc.=20 > > =20 > > > Clever hack! >=20 > >I also experimented with adding forms to shared objects (this could be > >useful for the syntax editors for the plugins), but that's where i hav= e > >got stuck. I was using this site ( > >http://www.developers.demon.co.uk/formdll.html ) as a very rough guide= , > >but you'll have to look at the source I knocked out, you can get it fr= om > >http://www.linux-hoster.co.uk/davinci/davinci-paul-04092004.tar.gz. > > > I'll check the code in a minute when i die (playing Nethack, don't worr= y=20 > i allways die by floor 9, d'oh). > Why don't submit your changes to CVS? That way we can sync up better. >=20 > > You > >will probably want to change the paths in the INI file in the `davinci= ` > >directory to the local ones for you as they are absolute paths, I will > >code an 'install plugin' system sometime. > > > >Hope this all jolts you into action, > >Paul > > > > =20 > > > It seems like Taj has been busy with his cool Linux distro and i have=20 > been toying with my lame game :D. > Well i'll have some work for a few days (have to do some boring databas= e=20 > for Windows and a not so boring webpage) , but i will steal some minute= s=20 > from that to code a bit now that interest in DV has been renewed ;). >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D5047&alloc_id=3D10808&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > davinci-develop mailing list > dav...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop >=20 |
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From: <el...@ya...> - 2004-09-06 06:01:40
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Paul Hampson escribió: >Hi all, > >Remember that DaVinci project? > Huh? DaVinci? It sounds familiar... Oh yeah! :) > Well, I did some development this >evening, knocked out an extremely rough GUI and integrated the code that >you both did earlier with the plugins (and tried to extend, but more on >that later). > Wow! really? Cool! The GUI thingy is what i was afraid of ;) > The initial menu that comes up is loaded from an INI file, >and that holds the configured plugin names etc. > > Clever hack! >I also experimented with adding forms to shared objects (this could be >useful for the syntax editors for the plugins), but that's where i have >got stuck. I was using this site ( >http://www.developers.demon.co.uk/formdll.html ) as a very rough guide, >but you'll have to look at the source I knocked out, you can get it from >http://www.linux-hoster.co.uk/davinci/davinci-paul-04092004.tar.gz. > I'll check the code in a minute when i die (playing Nethack, don't worry i allways die by floor 9, d'oh). Why don't submit your changes to CVS? That way we can sync up better. > You >will probably want to change the paths in the INI file in the `davinci` >directory to the local ones for you as they are absolute paths, I will >code an 'install plugin' system sometime. > >Hope this all jolts you into action, >Paul > > > It seems like Taj has been busy with his cool Linux distro and i have been toying with my lame game :D. Well i'll have some work for a few days (have to do some boring database for Windows and a not so boring webpage) , but i will steal some minutes from that to code a bit now that interest in DV has been renewed ;). |
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From: Paul H. <p.h...@ds...> - 2004-09-04 22:25:59
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Hi all, Remember that DaVinci project? Well, I did some development this evening, knocked out an extremely rough GUI and integrated the code that you both did earlier with the plugins (and tried to extend, but more on that later). The initial menu that comes up is loaded from an INI file, and that holds the configured plugin names etc. I also experimented with adding forms to shared objects (this could be useful for the syntax editors for the plugins), but that's where i have got stuck. I was using this site ( http://www.developers.demon.co.uk/formdll.html ) as a very rough guide, but you'll have to look at the source I knocked out, you can get it from http://www.linux-hoster.co.uk/davinci/davinci-paul-04092004.tar.gz . You will probably want to change the paths in the INI file in the `davinci` directory to the local ones for you as they are absolute paths, I will code an 'install plugin' system sometime. Hope this all jolts you into action, Paul |
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From: Taj M. <ta...@wi...> - 2004-08-23 14:23:39
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>> Fixed. :D >> > Yay! Cool! > BTW when the server [sourceforge] is in a big load typo3 just doesn't > work, the other day it just sent some extrange memory allocation error > message. Hmmmm. Yes, I noted that...I donno :S. I think it's the memory limits. Maybe I'll email support and ask them to increase them? -- Taj http://www.wildgardenseed.com/Taj/blog "Those who give up liberty for the sake of security deserve neither liberty nor security." --Ben Franklin |
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From: <el...@ya...> - 2004-08-23 05:00:28
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Taj Morton escribió: > Elio Cuevas Gómez wrote: > >> Hello, have you noticed that the Davinci website >> (http://davinci.sourceforge.net/site) is broken? >> I think i clicked something i shouldn't oh :(. >> I tried to fix the thing but couldn't figure out Typo3 sourcecode, i >> guess i should read the docs. >> I hope Taj can fix what i broke :D. > > > Fixed. :D > Yay! Cool! BTW when the server [sourceforge] is in a big load typo3 just doesn't work, the other day it just sent some extrange memory allocation error message. Hmmmm. |
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From: Taj M. <ta...@wi...> - 2004-08-21 14:18:26
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Elio Cuevas G=F3mez wrote: > Hello, have you noticed that the Davinci website=20 > (http://davinci.sourceforge.net/site) is broken? > I think i clicked something i shouldn't oh :(. > I tried to fix the thing but couldn't figure out Typo3 sourcecode, i=20 > guess i should read the docs. > I hope Taj can fix what i broke :D. Fixed. :D --=20 Taj http://www.wildgardenseed.com/Taj/blog Tell the truth and you won't have so much to remember. |
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From: Taj M. <ta...@wi...> - 2004-08-21 14:03:44
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Hi Elio, > Hello, have you noticed that the Davinci website > (http://davinci.sourceforge.net/site) is broken? > I think i clicked something i shouldn't oh :(. > I tried to fix the thing but couldn't figure out Typo3 sourcecode, i > guess i should read the docs. > I hope Taj can fix what i broke :D. What did you change? (Hehe, *if* you remember, anyway). I'll work on it this afternoon. > Elio. > PD: You remember what Davinci is right? Oh yes, I do. I even toyed around with it a little last week :D. -- Taj http://www.wildgardenseed.com/Taj/blog Tell the truth and you won't have so much to remember. |
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From: <el...@ya...> - 2004-08-21 06:27:37
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Hello, have you noticed that the Davinci website (http://davinci.sourceforge.net/site) is broken? I think i clicked something i shouldn't oh :(. I tried to fix the thing but couldn't figure out Typo3 sourcecode, i guess i should read the docs. I hope Taj can fix what i broke :D. Elio. PD: You remember what Davinci is right? |
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From: <ben...@id...> - 2004-05-25 09:30:17
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Dear Open Source developer I am doing a research project on "Fun and Software Development" in which I kindly invite you to participate. You will find the online survey under http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/. The questionnaire consists of 53 questions and you will need about 15 minutes to complete it. With the FASD project (Fun and Software Development) we want to define the motivational significance of fun when software developers decide to engage in Open Source projects. What is special about our research project is that a similar survey is planned with software developers in commercial firms. This procedure allows the immediate comparison between the involved individuals and the conditions of production of these two development models. Thus we hope to obtain substantial new insights to the phenomenon of Open Source Development. With many thanks for your participation, Benno Luthiger PS: The results of the survey will be published under http://www.isu.unizh.ch/fuehrung/blprojects/FASD/. We have set up the mailing list fa...@we... for this study. Please see http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/mailinglist_en.html for registration to this mailing list. _______________________________________________________________________ Benno Luthiger Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich 8092 Zurich Mail: benno.luthiger(at)id.ethz.ch _______________________________________________________________________ |
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From: <el...@ya...> - 2004-05-01 21:12:13
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This licence might not be free. Check the discussion at: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/debian-legal-200403/msg00267.html The GNU FDL isn't free if you use invariant sections, but if you don't, then there's no problem. Neither licence is considered [yet?] an Open Source Licence: http://opensource.org/licenses/ Taj Morton wrote: >Hi Everybody, >This might be a good license for DaVinci documents: >http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/1.0/ >http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/1.0/legalcode [legalease] > >I'm not sure how this stands up against the GNU Free Documentation License... > >Let me know what you think, > > |
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From: Taj M. <ta...@wi...> - 2004-05-01 02:32:29
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Hi Everybody, This might be a good license for DaVinci documents: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/1.0/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/1.0/legalcode [legalease] I'm not sure how this stands up against the GNU Free Documentation License... Let me know what you think, -- Taj "Never memorize something that you can look up." --Albert Einstein |
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From: Paul H. <p.h...@ds...> - 2004-04-24 12:50:40
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When the time comes to make our first release then we should consider the following article: http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/04/07/1549228 Paul --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.667 / Virus Database: 429 - Release Date: 23/04/2004 |
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From: <el...@ya...> - 2004-04-21 02:40:58
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Paul Hampson wrote: >Are we referring to the eyes of the logo, so they go black on some >monitors? I worked out why that it, its to do with the brightness >setting of your monitor, if I reduce mine the whole thing goes black but >if I increase it it is dark blue. > >Paul > > > I was refering to the whole original picture i. e davinci-logo2.png It looks completely black in some monitors, probably because of the gamma level. Anyway i also uploaded: http://davinci.sourceforge.net/images/davinci-logo2.jpg Which has much better compresion and it looks great, except that it losses the alpha channel and some quality in the "D". Too much logos so far, which one should we chose? >>-----Original Message----- >>From: dav...@li... >>[mailto:dav...@li...] On >>Behalf Of Elio Cuevas Gómez >>Sent: 20 April 2004 06:23 >>To: dav...@li... >>Subject: Re: [davinci-develop] New DaVinci Logo >> >> >>[Yet] Another new logo here: >> >>http://davinci.sourceforge.net/images/davinci-spider-black.png >> >>This one is almos identical to my previous one but i changed >>the colors. >> >>Now, there's an issue with this logo, in some monitors this >>logo looks >>completely black. In facf i got the inspiration to my las >>image because >>of this. The logo looks completely black in my other monitor >>and in the >>monitor of a friend. Any ideas? >> >>Taj Morton wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi Paul, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>That a brail D? or is it in binary ;) Looks weird but good to me, >>>>whats the story behind it? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Yeh, it's a brail D. Binary would be cool too, maybe. It does look >>>weird. Not >>>sure if I really like it, but it kinda looks like the spots >>> >>> >>that identify >> >> >>>other animals (not spiders!)...beats me. >>> >>>The story? Oh, sorry, it's not great. I was looking at my choices of >>>fonts and >>>came across this one :P. >>> >>>What about two D's that looked like a hour glass? That might be cool >>>too. Donno. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >>Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President >>and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from >>fundamentals to system >>administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click >>_______________________________________________ >>davinci-develop mailing list dav...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop >> >>--- >>Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >>Version: 6.0.661 / Virus Database: 424 - Release Date: 19/04/2004 >> >> >> >> > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.661 / Virus Database: 424 - Release Date: 19/04/2004 > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=click >_______________________________________________ >davinci-develop mailing list >dav...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davinci-develop > > > |
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