[clisp-list] Re: character sets

[<don...@is...>]

Sam Steingold writes:
 > > I think something about this ought to be in clisp impnotes and faq.
 > did you actually look in the impnotes?!

Many times, often, every time I have such problems.
Whenever I post to the list about such a problem I have
searched impnotes for something about it.  
That gives you a lower bound.

Of course, just cause something is there doesn't mean it's 
easy to find!

 > > Also something about the syntax class of the extra characters.
 > <http://clisp.cons.org/impnotes.html#graph-char> &c.

I don't see how this was supposed to help me.

 > > Also something about the influence of LANG.
 > <http://clisp.cons.org/clisp.html#environment>
 > <http://clisp.cons.org/clisp.html#opt-lang>
 > <http://clisp.cons.org/clisp.html#opt-enc>

This is the sort of thing that it's easy to read and not realize
how it affects you.  Basically I have to learn all about unicode
and what the locale and language mean/affect/control.
I know, I'm just a US-centric (maybe even ascii-centric) old fogey.
And for some reason you don't want to make it easy for me remain so.

 > > Also *print-pretty* - these things have bitten me again and again
 > > in clisp.
 > <http://clisp.cons.org/impnotes/printer.html#multi-rep>

The lesson I have learned (over and over - sort of like claiming to be
really good at quitting smoking cause you've done it so many times!) 
is that I should turn off *print-pretty* before I start.
I really wish the default were different.

 > >  > For input (read), you're doomed w.r.t. faithful input because
 > >  > there's no way to get around CLISP's CRLF translation at end-of
 > >  > line.
 > > Oh, right, THIS is why I have to use binary input.
 > > I really wish there were a way around this.
 > > Why are the line terminator modes not used for input?
 > 
 > <http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=731952&group_id=1355&atid=351355>

I'm glad to see it.  I'd like to vote for it.
I realize that the vote that would really count is a patch.