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Re: [cgiirc-general] Images Not Appearing

[David L. <dg...@dg...>]

Dunkin wrote:
> images directory, is inside the cgi-bin folder....
> 
> using default setting
> 
> image_path = images
> 
> or
> 
> image_path = /cgi-bin/images
> 

Put them somewhere that they can be served as static files (the
apache error_log would have told you this..).

[cgiirc-general] Images Not Appearing

[Dunkin <du...@hi...>]

images directory, is inside the cgi-bin folder....

using default setting

image_path = images

or

image_path = /cgi-bin/images

and the graphics don't load... any suggestions?

[cgiirc-general] please remove me from the mailing list...thanks.

[stephen f. <stu...@ya...>]

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Re: [cgiirc-general] request - hide version information for txt version.bind?

[David L. <dg...@dg...>]

sil wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  Firstly I am very happy with powerdns, I found it easy to setup and
>  use :)
[..]

I'm glad to hear that, but this is the CGI:IRC list not powerdns ;).

Re[2]: [cgiirc-general] cgi-irc 0.5.4 xml bug

[Onslo <on...@ni...>]

Not sure if this made it last time, so i'll send it again....

Guys,

I have played around with UTF-8 and CGI:IRC before, but have only just
got to a point whereby my findings are understandable to myself !

Enabling UTF-8 (Unicode Charset) in CGI:IRC is relatively
easy, but you have to define the charset in numerous places for it to
be accepted on both input and output.

I'll use the ie.pm file as an example, but the same should apply to
all interfaces really.

Add this line inside every HEAD tag within the ie.pm file ..

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">

that way you are defining the browser encoding that should be used by
IE. Then you have to tell the CGI::IRC form to accept UTF-8 as an
input charset within it's form structure.

I managed this by adding...

ACCEPT-CHARSET="UTF-8"

within the form tag for hsubmit and myform.

eg. <form ACCEPT-CHARSET="UTF-8" name="myform" onSubmit="return cmd();" class="form-form">

Hope that helps
  

-- 
Best regards,
 Onslo                          mailto:on...@ni...

Re[2]: [cgiirc-general] cgi-irc 0.5.4 xml bug

[Onslo <on...@ni...>]

Guys,

I have played around with UTF-8 and CGI:IRC before, but have only just
got to a point whereby my findings are understandable to myself !

Enabling UTF-8 (Unicode Charset) in CGI:IRC is relatively
easy, but you have to define the charset in numerous places for it to
be accepted on both input and output.

I'll use the ie.pm file as an example, but the same should apply to
all interfaces really.

Add this line inside every HEAD tag within the ie.pm file ..

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">

that way you are defining the browser encoding that should be used by
IE. Then you have to tell the CGI::IRC form to accept UTF-8 as an
input charset within it's form structure.

I managed this by adding...

ACCEPT-CHARSET="UTF-8"

within the form tag for hsubmit and myform.

eg. <form ACCEPT-CHARSET="UTF-8" name="myform" onSubmit="return cmd();" class="form-form">

Hope that helps
  

-- 
Best regards,
 Onslo                          mailto:on...@ni...

Re: [cgiirc-general] CGI:IRC 0.5.5pre1

[Onslo <on...@ni...>]

seems i am having a problem posting to this list, so i'll try again...hope it's not annoying anyone.

This was what i previoulsy tried to send to the list, but failed....think it got to David however.

.

Guys,

I have played around with UTF-8 and CGI:IRC before, but have only just
got to a point whereby my findings are understandable to myself !

Enabling UTF-8 (Unicode Charset) in CGI:IRC is relatively
easy, but you have to define the charset in numerous places for it to
be accepted on both input and output.

I'll use the ie.pm file as an example, but the same should apply to
all interfaces really.

Add this line inside every HEAD tag within the ie.pm file ..

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">

that way you are defining the browser encoding that should be used by
IE. Then you have to tell the CGI::IRC form to accept UTF-8 as an
input charset within it's form structure.

I managed this by adding...

ACCEPT-CHARSET="UTF-8"

within the form tag for hsubmit and myform.

eg. <form ACCEPT-CHARSET="UTF-8" name="myform" onSubmit="return cmd();" class="form-form">

Hope that helps, it certainly works for me!

Onslo

Re: [good] Re: [cgiirc-general] CGI:IRC 0.5.5pre1

[Onslo <on...@ni...>]

Oops, it appears I mailed this directly to David without cc'ing the
list - sorry !

Here's what I sent for the benefit of everyone else (perhaps?)

Guys,

I have played around with UTF-8 and CGI:IRC before, but have only just
got to a point whereby my findings are understandable to myself !

Enabling UTF-8 (Unicode Charset) in CGI:IRC is relatively
easy, but you have to define the charset in numerous places for it to
be accepted on both input and output.

I'll use the ie.pm file as an example, but the same should apply to
all interfaces really.

Add this line inside every HEAD tag within the ie.pm file ..

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">

that way you are defining the browser encoding that should be used by
IE. Then you have to tell the CGI::IRC form to accept UTF-8 as an
input charset within it's form structure.

I managed this by adding...

ACCEPT-CHARSET="UTF-8"

within the form tag for hsubmit and myform.

eg. <form ACCEPT-CHARSET="UTF-8" name="myform" onSubmit="return cmd();" class="form-form">

Hope that helps

Onslo

Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 1:04:59 AM, you wrote:

JW> On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, David Leadbeater wrote:

>> # The charset to send to IRC, to send anything other than UTF-8 you will
>> # need the Text::Iconv perl module installed. Any character set supported
>> # by your system iconv should work here.

JW> I just remembered the module Encode (perldoc Encode)... it is standard but
JW> I think it only comes with perl 5.8, so Text::Iconv should be more
JW> portable.




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 Onslo                            mailto:on...@ni...

Re: [good] Re: [cgiirc-general] CGI:IRC 0.5.5pre1

[David L. <dg...@dg...>]

Onslo wrote:
> Guys,
> 
> I have played around with UTF-8 and CGI:IRC before, but have only just
> got to a point whereby my findings are understandable to myself !
[..]

I've basically done this, except it uses a different method as we send
via XMLHTTP now (this requires UTF-8 which is the main reason for the
change). And obviously there is also code to allow changing of encoding
so it doesn't totally break if people need a different character set on
IRC.

Re: [cgiirc-general] CGI:IRC 0.5.5pre1

[David L. <dg...@dg...>]

Julien WAJSBERG wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, David Leadbeater wrote:
> 
> > # The charset to send to IRC, to send anything other than UTF-8 you will
> > # need the Text::Iconv perl module installed. Any character set supported
> > # by your system iconv should work here.
> 
> I just remembered the module Encode (perldoc Encode)... it is standard but
> I think it only comes with perl 5.8, so Text::Iconv should be more
> portable.

It seems to require perl 5.8 (well 5.7), so for now I'll leave it with Text::Iconv
I think. I probably ought to test this on 5.8 to see that my utf8 stuff doesn't
interfere with any of perl's..

Re: [cgiirc-general] CGI:IRC 0.5.5pre1

[Julien W. <fl...@mi...>]

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, David Leadbeater wrote:

> # The charset to send to IRC, to send anything other than UTF-8 you will
> # need the Text::Iconv perl module installed. Any character set supported
> # by your system iconv should work here.

I just remembered the module Encode (perldoc Encode)... it is standard but
I think it only comes with perl 5.8, so Text::Iconv should be more
portable.

-- 
Julien

Re: [cgiirc-general] CGI:IRC 0.5.5pre1

[Reinis R. <re...@ap...>]

And what about the daemon / standalone version of CGI:IRC (which was in
future plans quite a time ago)?

Roze is still waiting for some less resource consuming solution for large
mases..


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Leadbeater" <dg...@dg...>
To: <cgi...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:57 PM
Subject: [cgiirc-general] CGI:IRC 0.5.5pre1


> The main change is that the main interface uses only UTF-8, by default
> UTF-8 will be sent to IRC. There is a new configuration option "irc
charset"
> from the config file:
> # The charset to send to IRC, to send anything other than UTF-8 you will
> # need the Text::Iconv perl module installed. Any character set supported
> # by your system iconv should work here.
> # If you see the wrong characters in CGI:IRC or with a normal IRC client
> # you probably need to change this.
> # Extended ASCII:
> #irc charset = iso-8859-1
>
> Unfortantely this isn't going to just work like the old CGI:IRC did when
> there are normal IRC clients involved, between CGI:IRC clients the default
> should work fine however..
>
> I also fixed the www. url bug.
>
> You can get it from http://babylon.otherwize.co.uk/releases/ or cvs
> tag rel_0_5_5pre1.
>
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[cgiirc-general] CGI:IRC 0.5.5pre1

[David L. <dg...@dg...>]

The main change is that the main interface uses only UTF-8, by default
UTF-8 will be sent to IRC. There is a new configuration option "irc charset"
from the config file:
# The charset to send to IRC, to send anything other than UTF-8 you will
# need the Text::Iconv perl module installed. Any character set supported
# by your system iconv should work here.
# If you see the wrong characters in CGI:IRC or with a normal IRC client
# you probably need to change this.
# Extended ASCII:
#irc charset = iso-8859-1

Unfortantely this isn't going to just work like the old CGI:IRC did when
there are normal IRC clients involved, between CGI:IRC clients the default
should work fine however..

I also fixed the www. url bug.

You can get it from http://babylon.otherwize.co.uk/releases/ or cvs
tag rel_0_5_5pre1.

[cgiirc-general] request - hide version information for txt version.bind?

[sil <pd...@on...>]

Hi,

 Firstly I am very happy with powerdns, I found it easy to setup and
 use :)

 I guess this is a type of feature request, the current situation
 (POWERDNS 2.9.13) a lookup of

host -t txt version.bind 127.0.0.1

 gives

version.bind text "Served by POWERDNS 2.9.13 $Id: packethandler.cc,v 1.19 2003/11/23 15:14:57 ahu Exp $"

 I think this is too much information leak, the version number
 (2.9.13) does not need to be there at least. I am proposing something
 similar to apache with it's ServerTokens directive

 http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#servertokens

 So giving the ability to hide version number if preferred (w/o
 editing code / re-compiling).

 Perhaps another way would be to allow the user to have an entry in
 the DB for a TXT lookup on version.bind and specify whatever they
 liked there (I tried this but it didn't seem to work).

Thanks for a neat dns server :)

Sil

Re: Re[2]: [cgiirc-general] cgi-irc 0.5.4 xml bug

[Julien W. <fl...@mi...>]

On Mon, 2 Feb 2004, David Leadbeater wrote:

> [sending to the mailing list too..]
> peter green wrote:
> [snip how utf8 works]
> > mirc treats all text recived as extended ascii
> > afaict x-chat trys to parse as utf-8 first and if it's not valid utf-8
> > treats it as extended ascii
>
> Currently the Unicode::Map8 module looks like the best thing to use (and
> if it isn't installed we'll only work with iso-8859-1)...
>
> Anyone else have thoughts?

Maybe Text::Iconv ? It seems to be somewhat standard these days.

-- 
Julien

Re: Re[2]: [cgiirc-general] cgi-irc 0.5.4 xml bug

[David L. <dg...@dg...>]

[sending to the mailing list too..]
peter green wrote:
[snip how utf8 works]
> mirc treats all text recived as extended ascii
> afaict x-chat trys to parse as utf-8 first and if it's not valid utf-8 
> treats it as extended ascii

Yes, this is all pretty simple, it becomes complex because we do not know
what charset people will be using on IRC, at the moment it just "works"
because people generally have their browser set to correctly read their
local character set (and presumably their IRC client too).

Now for most (US/Western Europe) people extended ascii is what they expect
and this works ok with XMLHTTP (the first 0xFF chars of unicode are the same
as iso-8859-1). But anything else is encoded as a unicode character with
the format %uXXXX where XXXX is the hexadecimal representation of the unicode
character much like other HTTP params are encoded. (btw, the thing I've been
testing with on this system is the euro character).

So basically all my patch does is change this %uXXXX into utf-8 and provided
CGI:IRC is set to use utf-8 all should appear fine to the CGI:IRC user,
however the problem now is CGI:IRC will be sending utf-8 over IRC and
some people expect it to be something different (e.g. cyrillic users
are probably using windows CP1251). To solve this there is going to have
to be something to convert in CGI:IRC (and probably a config setting as
to what to send to IRC - I think we should try to keep the HTTP side of
things running in utf-8).

Currently the Unicode::Map8 module looks like the best thing to use (and
if it isn't installed we'll only work with iso-8859-1)...

Anyone else have thoughts?

Re: Re[2]: [cgiirc-general] cgi-irc 0.5.4 xml bug

[David L. <dg...@dg...>]

Maxim Shpakov wrote:
> b) translate from utf8-to-plain in client.cgi

I have only got as far as converting %uXXXX to real utf-8, see
the attached patch (you will also need to add the line
charset = utf-8
into the format (formats/default))..

Obviously if clients can't read utf-8 then they won't understand
the text still.

Re: Re[2]: [cgiirc-general] cgi-irc 0.5.4 xml bug

[David L. <dg...@dg...>]

Maxim Shpakov wrote:
> The problem is that xmlhttp.send method it translate chars into utf8
> from msdn:
> >>
> >>If the input type is a BSTR, the response is always encoded as UTF-8.
> >>The caller must set a Content-Type header with the appropriate content type and include a charset parameter.
> 
> as I see the solution is:
> a) use SAFEARRAY parameter type for xmlhttp.send
>   MSDN:
>   >>>If the input type is a SAFEARRAY of UI1, the response is sent as is without additional encoding.
>   >>>The caller must set a Content-Type header with the appropriate content type.
>   but jscript doesn't support safearrays...
> 
> b) translate from utf8-to-plain in client.cgi
> 
> what do you think?
> 
> This bug is critical for me.. because..it doesn't allow to chat in
> cyrillic language.. 0.5.3 is fine.

b) is difficult, CGI:IRC currently knows nothing about encodings,
also sending %uHHHH doesn't look like UTF-8 to me, it looks like
some other sort of unicode encoding..

To translate unicode characters into another format (I'm assuming
you use something like windows-1251?) would be difficult..

Re: [cgiirc-general] cgi-irc 0.5.4 xml bug

[David L. <dg...@dg...>]

Maxim wrote:
> Hello.
> 
>   There are encoding problems with xmlhttp_send  in IE
>   Mozilla is fine.
>   Then browser [IE] send post request to client.cgi the encoding is
>   utf-8 .. english letters are fine.. but cyrillic appears in irc as
>   %u0430%u0431%u0432    unicode encoded string.. some experiments with
>   
>   xmlhttp.setRequestHeader("Content-type",
>   "application/x-www-form-urlencoded");
> 
>   failed.... adding charset in header in no sense.
> 
>   client.cgi must convert this string from utf to some charset or..
>   somehow ie must send post data in needed charset.

I don't think you can specify the charset sent (it's always utf-8),
I think maybe it's time to do utf-8 support for CGI:IRC..

(Although some IRC clients might not be able to display utf-8 still)

Re: [cgiirc-general] 0.5.4 released

[David L. <dg...@dg...>]

Julien WAJSBERG wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, David Leadbeater wrote:
> 
> > Not that much new, main things are XMLHTTP support (so IE no longer does
> > the annoying clicking), a bug with trusted-proxies was fixed (didn't work)
> > some new images and various other bug fixes I've probably forgotten to
> > mention.
> 
> To make upgrades easier, could you possibly provide a diff ?
> Thanks,

cvs -d:pserver:cv...@cv...:/cvs co -r rel_0_5_4 cgiirc
cd cgiirc
cvs diff -u -r rel_0_5_3

note the images won't diff..

[cgiirc-general] cgi-irc 0.5.4 xml bug

[Maxim <ma...@os...>]

Hello.

  There are encoding problems with xmlhttp_send  in IE
  Mozilla is fine.
  Then browser [IE] send post request to client.cgi the encoding is
  utf-8 .. english letters are fine.. but cyrillic appears in irc as
  %u0430%u0431%u0432    unicode encoded string.. some experiments with
  
  xmlhttp.setRequestHeader("Content-type",
  "application/x-www-form-urlencoded");

  failed.... adding charset in header in no sense.

  client.cgi must convert this string from utf to some charset or..
  somehow ie must send post data in needed charset.
  
-- 
Best regards,
 Maxim           mailto:ma...@os...

Re: [cgiirc-general] 0.5.4 released

[Julien W. <fl...@mi...>]

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, David Leadbeater wrote:

> Not that much new, main things are XMLHTTP support (so IE no longer does
> the annoying clicking), a bug with trusted-proxies was fixed (didn't work)
> some new images and various other bug fixes I've probably forgotten to
> mention.

To make upgrades easier, could you possibly provide a diff ?
Thanks,
-- 
Julien

[cgiirc-general] cgiirc aftrer standing

[Fateyev G. <he...@an...>]

Hello to all!

I use cgiirc 5.3 , but after some times without writing in browser
(Mozilla 1.4) cgiirc does not refresh any frames. In that time see in
xchat that client in a channel. How to fix that?
I use client.cgi

Thanks!

[cgiirc-general] 0.5.4 released

[David L. <dg...@dg...>]

Not that much new, main things are XMLHTTP support (so IE no longer does
the annoying clicking), a bug with trusted-proxies was fixed (didn't work)
some new images and various other bug fixes I've probably forgotten to
mention.

[cgiirc-general] (no subject)

[mark <ma...@ya...>]

Hello,

I am assuming CGI-IRC uses a fair amount of bandwidth
if there is a steady amount of users at any given
time.

I am curious as to how much bandwidth it can consme.

Examples would be great.

Thnks!
Mark

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