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[bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?

From: Cian D. <my...@gm...> - 2004-11-23 12:03:23

I compiled off a clean from CVS version a few days ago, on a clean R5,
with the net_server build of cryptlib, and after the initial
connection attempt, nothing. Dead silence.

I was on a 2Mbit WAN connection at the time, so latencies were 'bad',
but still better than DSL on BT in rural areas, from my experience -
113msecs to Google.

One of the devs should try building clean from CVS to see is there an
issue, or is my apparently clean R5 somehow dirty...

I think the compile is broken on Dano again, btw.... I'll take a look
at that later on today.

Cian/MYOB

RE: [bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?

From: Sir M. <obe...@ho...> - 2004-11-23 12:27:33

Very weird!

I'll try building it later...haven't got time now....I must say I mainly use 
the BONE project file...I believe Simon is the only one using the net_server 
file....but he's currently busy working on Firefox....maybe he can try 
building the net_server version, as it doesn't work on BONE 
installations(doesn't login to msn server)

regards,

Tim

>From: Cian Duffy <my...@gm...>
>Reply-To: bme...@li...
>To: bme...@li...
>Subject: [bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?
>Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:03:20 +0100
>
>I compiled off a clean from CVS version a few days ago, on a clean R5,
>with the net_server build of cryptlib, and after the initial
>connection attempt, nothing. Dead silence.
>
>I was on a 2Mbit WAN connection at the time, so latencies were 'bad',
>but still better than DSL on BT in rural areas, from my experience -
>113msecs to Google.
>
>One of the devs should try building clean from CVS to see is there an
>issue, or is my apparently clean R5 somehow dirty...
>
>I think the compile is broken on Dano again, btw.... I'll take a look
>at that later on today.
>
>Cian/MYOB
>
>
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RE: [bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?

From: Simon T. <sj...@ca...> - 2004-11-23 13:36:42

Maybe there are some new changes that cause problems. My personal 
project file is a bit out of sync anyway, with the work-in-progress on 
the emoticons.

Later today I'll try to get a clean CVS and see what happens.

Simon

> Very weird!
> 
> I'll try building it later...haven't got time now....I must say I 
> mainly use 
> the BONE project file...I believe Simon is the only one using the 
> net_server 
> file....but he's currently busy working on Firefox....maybe he can 
> try 
> building the net_server version, as it doesn't work on BONE 
> installations(doesn't login to msn server)
> 
> regards,
> 
> Tim
> 
> >From: Cian Duffy <my...@gm...>
> >Reply-To: bme...@li...
> >To: bme...@li...
> >Subject: [bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?
> >Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:03:20 +0100
> >
> >I compiled off a clean from CVS version a few days ago, on a clean 
> > R5,
> >with the net_server build of cryptlib, and after the initial
> >connection attempt, nothing. Dead silence.
> >
> >I was on a 2Mbit WAN connection at the time, so latencies were 
> > 'bad',
> >but still better than DSL on BT in rural areas, from my experience -
> >113msecs to Google.
> >
> >One of the devs should try building clean from CVS to see is there 
> > an
> >issue, or is my apparently clean R5 somehow dirty...
> >
> >I think the compile is broken on Dano again, btw.... I'll take a 
> > look
> >at that later on today.
> >
> >Cian/MYOB
> >
> >
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RE: [bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?

From: Simon T. <sj...@ca...> - 2004-11-25 09:51:01

OK, just tried a fresh CVS build and it works fine.

It might be your cryptlib build - I tried building a new snapshot and 
think it was a bit broken somewhere.

I'll email you the one I'm using.

Simon

ps: completely off topic, but aren't the "away" and "idle" icons the 
wrong way around? The lighter green suggests they are online but idle, 
whereas the empty outline suggests they're not actually there at all. I 
guess I can change it just by editing the iconprefs?

> Maybe there are some new changes that cause problems. My personal 
> project file is a bit out of sync anyway, with the work-in-progress 
> on 
> the emoticons.
> 
> Later today I'll try to get a clean CVS and see what happens.
> 
> Simon
> 
> > Very weird!
> > 
> > I'll try building it later...haven't got time now....I must say I 
> > mainly use 
> > the BONE project file...I believe Simon is the only one using the 
> > net_server 
> > file....but he's currently busy working on Firefox....maybe he can 
> > try 
> > building the net_server version, as it doesn't work on BONE 
> > installations(doesn't login to msn server)
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > >From: Cian Duffy <my...@gm...>
> > >Reply-To: bme...@li...
> > >To: bme...@li...
> > >Subject: [bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?
> > >Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:03:20 +0100
> > >
> > >I compiled off a clean from CVS version a few days ago, on a clean 
> > > R5,
> > >with the net_server build of cryptlib, and after the initial
> > >connection attempt, nothing. Dead silence.
> > >
> > >I was on a 2Mbit WAN connection at the time, so latencies were 
> > > 'bad',
> > >but still better than DSL on BT in rural areas, from my experience 
> > > -
> > >113msecs to Google.
> > >
> > >One of the devs should try building clean from CVS to see is there 
> > > an
> > >issue, or is my apparently clean R5 somehow dirty...
> > >
> > >I think the compile is broken on Dano again, btw.... I'll take a 
> > > look
> > >at that later on today.
> > >
> > >Cian/MYOB
> > >
> > >
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[bme-develop] status icons

From: Sir M. <obe...@ho...> - 2004-11-25 12:07:10

Hi,

>ps: completely off topic, but aren't the "away" and "idle" icons the
>wrong way around? The lighter green suggests they are online but idle,
>whereas the empty outline suggests they're not actually there at all. I
>guess I can change it just by editing the iconprefs?
>
I think it's correct how they are now...The idle state is invoked when a 
user doesn't use the keyboard or mouse for, for example, 10 minutes...that 
means the person isn't behind the computer, hence the empty icon...whereas 
the away icon is set by the user himself, so doesn't have to mean the user 
is really not behind his computer...anyway, that's my interpretation....if 
you want you can change it in the iconprefs yeah...

we also should decide how we will be integrating the signed out and blocked 
icons into the icon prefs file, since they are not really statusses...(and 
therefore are missing some information that the normal statusses do have)

regards,

Tim

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Re: [bme-develop] status icons

From: Simon T. <sj...@ca...> - 2004-11-25 14:02:11

> Hi,
> 
> >ps: completely off topic, but aren't the "away" and "idle" icons the
> >wrong way around? The lighter green suggests they are online but 
> > idle,
> >whereas the empty outline suggests they're not actually there at 
> > all. I
> >guess I can change it just by editing the iconprefs?
> >
> I think it's correct how they are now...The idle state is invoked 
> when a 
> user doesn't use the keyboard or mouse for, for example, 10 
> minutes...that 
> means the person isn't behind the computer, hence the empty 
> icon...whereas 
> the away icon is set by the user himself, so doesn't have to mean the 
> user 
> is really not behind his computer...anyway, that's my 
> interpretation....if 
> you want you can change it in the iconprefs yeah...

Hmm, I disagree - Idle often comes on when someone is still in the 
room, but maybe not using the computer. If I'm actually going away, I 
actually set the status to "away". I think the away icon should show 
more "away" than the idle one, as that one the user has actually said 
they are away - idle is more the computer guessing they're probably 
away, so it should be the faded green icon IMHO.

Any other opinions welcome.

> we also should decide how we will be integrating the signed out and 
> blocked 
> icons into the icon prefs file, since they are not really 
> statusses...(and 
> therefore are missing some information that the normal statusses do 
> have)
> 
> regards,
> 
> Tim
> 
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> 
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RE: [bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?

From: D. G. <A00...@it...> - 2004-11-24 06:30:30

Very very weird!

I had a similar problem the other day myself. I checkout (not update, 
checked out to a clean folder) the first emoticon grid version and I 
was unable to build the project. It marked errors on every source file 
that used the map.h header. Really weird, I finally replaced the BeIDE 
project file with my previous copy and from there was able to build the 
new code. I don't understand why a file will build and the other wont. 
Any ideas?

I suggest that if the BeIDE project file is not changed (added/removed 
files, libraries, etc) don't commit it. What do you think?

Regards,
Daniel

> Very weird!
> 
> I'll try building it later...haven't got time now....I must say I 
> mainly use 
> the BONE project file...I believe Simon is the only one using the 
> net_server 
> file....but he's currently busy working on Firefox....maybe he can 
> try 
> building the net_server version, as it doesn't work on BONE 
> installations(doesn't login to msn server)
> 
> regards,
> 
> Tim
> 
> >From: Cian Duffy <my...@gm...>
> >Reply-To: bme...@li...
> >To: bme...@li...
> >Subject: [bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?
> >Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:03:20 +0100
> >
> >I compiled off a clean from CVS version a few days ago, on a clean 
> > R5,
> >with the net_server build of cryptlib, and after the initial
> >connection attempt, nothing. Dead silence.
> >
> >I was on a 2Mbit WAN connection at the time, so latencies were 
> > 'bad',
> >but still better than DSL on BT in rural areas, from my experience -
> >113msecs to Google.
> >
> >One of the devs should try building clean from CVS to see is there 
> > an
> >issue, or is my apparently clean R5 somehow dirty...
> >
> >I think the compile is broken on Dano again, btw.... I'll take a 
> > look
> >at that later on today.
> >
> >Cian/MYOB
> >