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[B2-devel] Solved: Correction: Problems mounting MacOS disks under Linux, for SheepShaver

[Andrew L. <and...@in...>]

Hi all,

Good news.  SheepShaver is up and running MacOS 8.5 under Mandriva linux, KDE 
3.5.4, Core2 Duo processor.

What did I change ?

As I indicated in my earlier emails to the group, I was *unable* to mount the 
MacOS 8.5 disk on my linux system using the following command
   mount -t hfs /dev/hda /mnt/cdrom

I took a shot at something different . . . . I used the hmount command to 
mount it.
  hmount /dev/hda

I hadn't considered doing this previously, since while I had found that while 
it mounted the disk 'locally'  (the hmount manual says . . . . "hmount  does  
not actually mount an HFS partition over a UNIX directory in the traditional 
mount(8) sense. It is merely a "virtual" mount, as a point  of convenience 
for future HFS operations"), this meant that I couldn't access those files 
other than from command line.

Anyway, to cut a long story short, once the CD had been mounted as described 
above, then SheepShaver started, formating of the hard file and installation 
of MacOS 8.5 became rather straight forward.

Hope this helps.

Andrew
    

[B2-devel] Correction: Problems mounting MacOS disks under Linux, for SheepShaver

[Andrew L. <and...@in...>]

Hi,

My apologies for any confusion. In the original e-mail, I referred to a Mac=
=20
Performa 5600.  I should of course have said Performa 5260.  The corrected=
=20
version of the e-mail I sent a short time ago, is shown below . . . . . . .



Having downloaded, compiled, installed and configured=20
SheepShaver-2.3-0.20060514.1 =A0(my configuration is shown at the end of th=
is=20
e-mail), on my linux box (Mandriva 2007, KDE 3.5.4, Core2 Duo Processor,=20
Kernel 2.6.17.13), I find I'm unable to install either MacOS 8.5 (purchased=
=20
recently off ebay), or my original MacOS 7.5.3 disk (purchased with my Mac=
=20
Performa some years ago) onto the 'hardfile' created under the SheepShaver=
=20
Settings window.

I think this stems from a 'mounting' problem, since MacOS 8.1 mounts and=20
begins to load under SheepShaver, whereas MacOS 7.5.3 & MacOS 8.5 neither=20
mount nor begin to load under SheepShaver.

Here's what happens using the MacOS 8.1 disk . . . . .=20

=A0 =A0[root@internode Unix]# mount -t hfs /dev/hda /mnt/cdrom
=A0 =A0mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
=A0 =A0[root@internode Unix]# exit

=2E.. and then I open SheepShaver Settings window from within a shell using=
=20
(using the options shown at the end of this e-mail).
=A0 =A0[root@internode src]# ./Unix/SheepShaver
=A0 =A0SheepShaver V2.3-Pre (May 17 2007) by Christian Bauer and Mar"c" Hel=
lwig
=A0 =A0=20
Then When I then click 'Start', an alert window appears . . . .=20
=A0 SheepShaver Warning:
=A0 Cannot open /dev/sheep_net (Permission denied). Ethernet will not be=20
available.

Upon clicking 'OK', the SheepShaver window opens, initially showing the Mac=
OS=20
window and "Welcome to Mac . . " (if I have the MacOS8.1 disk in the the=20
drive), but then crashes (closes) SheepShaver instantly. =A0At this point, =
the=20
shell output, as root user, is:
=A0 =A0 [root@localhost src]$ ./Unix/SheepShaver
=A0 =A0 SheepShaver V2.3-Pre (May 17 2007) by Christian Bauer and Mar"c" He=
llwig
=A0 =A0 Reading ROM file...
=A0 =A0 Using /dev/dsp audio output
=A0 =A0 Detected CPU features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSE4
=A0 =A0 PowerPC CPU emulator by Gwenole Beauchesne
=A0 =A0 Illegal instruction at 40df1200, opcode =3D 00000000
=A0 =A0 [root@localhost src]$

If I repeat the above procedure but use my MacOS8.5 Disk (after first=20
switching to the Mac OS ROM file that I've transferred to the computer via=
=20
network connection to my old Mac), I find the MacOS 8.5 disk will not even=
=20
mount.

=A0 [root@internode Unix]# mount -t hfs /dev/hda /mnt/cdrom
=A0 mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
=A0 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0missing codepage or other error
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0dmesg | tail =A0or so

=A0 =A0 [root@internode Unix]#=20
=A0 =A0 hfs: unable to set blocksize to 512
=A0 =A0 hfs: can't find a HFS filesystem on dev hda.

If I ignore my inability to mount the MacOS8.5 CDROM, and simply start=20
SheepShaver, (changing the memory to settings to use the Mac OS ROM that I=
=20
copied from the MacOS8.5 disk, over a network connection), then I just get =
a=20
black (empty) SheepShaver window, and nothing happening (no Mac icons,=20
no "Welcome to Mac . . ." . . . . just nothing at all). =A0
Shell output is:

=A0 =A0SheepShaver V2.3-Pre (May 17 2007) by Christian Bauer and Mar"c" Hel=
lwig
=A0 =A0Reading ROM file...
=A0 =A0Using /dev/dsp audio output
=A0 =A0Detected CPU features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSE4
=A0 =A0PowerPC CPU emulator by Gwenole Beauchesne

Now, I don't think that this is a problem with the MacOS 7.5.3 & MacOS 8.5=
=20
disks being damaged, since if I use the 'hmount' command from shell with th=
e=20
MacOS8.5 disk in the drive (hmount /dev/hda), I get the following:

=A0 =A0[andrew@internode Unix]$ hmount /dev/hda
=A0 =A0/dev/hda: contains 1 HFS partition
=A0 =A0Volume name is "Mac OS 8.5" (locked)
=A0 =A0Volume was created on Mon Nov 24 09:01:00 1997
=A0 =A0Volume was last modified on Tue Sep 29 10:18:21 1998
=A0 =A0Volume has 111272448 bytes free

If I do the same thing on the MacOS8.1 disk, I get the following shell outp=
ut:

=A0 =A0[andrew@internode Unix]$ hmount /dev/hda
=A0 =A0/dev/hda: contains 1 HFS partition
=A0 =A0Volume name is "OS 8.1 Install" (locked)
=A0 =A0Volume was created on Thu Jul 20 13:19:44 2000
=A0 =A0Volume was last modified on Mon Jul 24 15:40:57 2000
=A0 =A0Volume has 0 bytes free


On another tangent, it seems I need to sort out what's wrong with the ROM f=
ile=20
I created on my old PowerPC Macintosh Performa 5260, since, if I enter the=
=20
directory containing my ROM file and do the check described at=20
http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/sheepshaver/help/faq, then I=20
get . . . .

=A0 =A0 [root@internode macintosh_emulation]# strings 'Mac OS ROM' | grep "=
Boot "
=A0 =A0 MacOS: Boot Failure! =A0(0xF3C481F6)
=A0 =A0 [root@internode macintosh_emulation]#


So, two questions.

1. Is there a package I need to install in order to be able to correctly mo=
unt=20
my Original MacOS disks (Versions 7.5.3 & 8.5) ?

2. Am I wrong to believe that a ROM generated by TomeViewer in a Macintosh=
=20
Performa 5260 will be any good at all ?

I'd value any assistance you could provide to help me get going with=20
SheepShaver. =A0

Cheers,

Andrew


### my =A0SheepShaver Configuration ###

Graphics/Sound :=20
=A0 Video Type =3D Window
=A0 Window Refresh Rate =3D 60 Hz
=A0 Width =3D 800
=A0 Height =3D 600
=A0 No QuickDraw Acceleration
=A0 Audoe Output Device /dev/dsp
=A0 Audio Mixer Device /dev/mixer
Serial/Network:
=A0 Modem Port =A0=3D /dev/ttyS0
=A0 Pritner Port /dev/ttyS1
=A0 Ethernet Interface =3D eth0
Memory Misc
=A0 MacOS Ram Size (MB) =3D 256
=A0 /AllProgs/macintosh_emulation/MacOS8.5_ROM/Mac OS ROM
=A0 Ignore Illegal Memory Accesses (SELECTED)
JIT Compiler
=A0 Enable JIT Compiler (SELECTED)
=A0 Enable built-in 68k DR Emulator (SELECTED)

##########################

[B2-devel] Problems mounting MacOS disks under Linux, for SheepShaver

[Andrew L. <and...@in...>]

Hi,

Having downloaded, compiled, installed and configured 
SheepShaver-2.3-0.20060514.1  (my configuration is shown at the end of this 
e-mail), on my linux box (Mandriva 2007, KDE 3.5.4, Core2 Duo Processor, 
Kernel 2.6.17.13), I find I'm unable to install either MacOS 8.5 (purchased 
recently off ebay), or my original MacOS 7.5.3 disk (purchased with my Mac 
Performa some years ago) onto the 'hardfile' created under the SheepShaver 
Settings window.

I think this stems from a 'mounting' problem, since MacOS 8.1 mounts and 
begins to load under SheepShaver, whereas MacOS 7.5.3 & MacOS 8.5 neither 
mount nor begin to load under SheepShaver.

Here's what happens using the MacOS 8.1 disk . . . . . 

   [root@internode Unix]# mount -t hfs /dev/hda /mnt/cdrom
   mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
   [root@internode Unix]# exit

... and then I open SheepShaver Settings window from within a shell using 
(using the options shown at the end of this e-mail).
   [root@internode src]# ./Unix/SheepShaver
   SheepShaver V2.3-Pre (May 17 2007) by Christian Bauer and Mar"c" Hellwig
    
Then When I then click 'Start', an alert window appears . . . . 
  SheepShaver Warning:
  Cannot open /dev/sheep_net (Permission denied). Ethernet will not be 
available.

Upon clicking 'OK', the SheepShaver window opens, initially showing the MacOS 
window and "Welcome to Mac . . " (if I have the MacOS8.1 disk in the the 
drive), but then crashes (closes) SheepShaver instantly.  At this point, the 
shell output, as root user, is:
    [root@localhost src]$ ./Unix/SheepShaver
    SheepShaver V2.3-Pre (May 17 2007) by Christian Bauer and Mar"c" Hellwig
    Reading ROM file...
    Using /dev/dsp audio output
    Detected CPU features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSE4
    PowerPC CPU emulator by Gwenole Beauchesne
    Illegal instruction at 40df1200, opcode = 00000000
    [root@localhost src]$

If I repeat the above procedure but use my MacOS8.5 Disk (after first 
switching to the Mac OS ROM file that I've transferred to the computer via 
network connection to my old Mac), I find the MacOS 8.5 disk will not even 
mount.

  [root@internode Unix]# mount -t hfs /dev/hda /mnt/cdrom
  mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda,
       missing codepage or other error
       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
       dmesg | tail  or so

    [root@internode Unix]# 
    hfs: unable to set blocksize to 512
    hfs: can't find a HFS filesystem on dev hda.

If I ignore my inability to mount the MacOS8.5 CDROM, and simply start 
SheepShaver, (changing the memory to settings to use the Mac OS ROM that I 
copied from the MacOS8.5 disk, over a network connection), then I just get a 
black (empty) SheepShaver window, and nothing happening (no Mac icons, 
no "Welcome to Mac . . ." . . . . just nothing at all).  
Shell output is:

   SheepShaver V2.3-Pre (May 17 2007) by Christian Bauer and Mar"c" Hellwig
   Reading ROM file...
   Using /dev/dsp audio output
   Detected CPU features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSE4
   PowerPC CPU emulator by Gwenole Beauchesne

Now, I don't think that this is a problem with the MacOS 7.5.3 & MacOS 8.5 
disks being damaged, since if I use the 'hmount' command from shell with the 
MacOS8.5 disk in the drive (hmount /dev/hda), I get the following:

   [andrew@internode Unix]$ hmount /dev/hda
   /dev/hda: contains 1 HFS partition
   Volume name is "Mac OS 8.5" (locked)
   Volume was created on Mon Nov 24 09:01:00 1997
   Volume was last modified on Tue Sep 29 10:18:21 1998
   Volume has 111272448 bytes free

If I do the same thing on the MacOS8.1 disk, I get the following shell output:

   [andrew@internode Unix]$ hmount /dev/hda
   /dev/hda: contains 1 HFS partition
   Volume name is "OS 8.1 Install" (locked)
   Volume was created on Thu Jul 20 13:19:44 2000
   Volume was last modified on Mon Jul 24 15:40:57 2000
   Volume has 0 bytes free


On another tangent, it seems I need to sort out what's wrong with the ROM file 
I created on my old PowerPC Macintosh Performa 5600, since, if I enter the 
directory containing my ROM file and do the check described at 
http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/sheepshaver/help/faq, then I 
get . . . .

    [root@internode macintosh_emulation]# strings 'Mac OS ROM' | grep "Boot "
    MacOS: Boot Failure!  (0xF3C481F6)
    [root@internode macintosh_emulation]#


So, two questions.

1. Is there a package I need to install in order to be able to correctly mount 
my Original MacOS disks (Versions 7.5.3 & 8.5) ?

2. Am I wrong to believe that a ROM generated by TomeViewer in a Macintosh 
Performa 5600 will be any good at all ?

I'd value any assistance you could provide to help me get going with 
SheepShaver.  

Cheers,

Andrew


### my  SheepShaver Configuration ###

Graphics/Sound : 
  Video Type = Window
  Window Refresh Rate = 60 Hz
  Width = 800
  Height = 600
  No QuickDraw Acceleration
  Audoe Output Device /dev/dsp
  Audio Mixer Device /dev/mixer
Serial/Network:
  Modem Port  = /dev/ttyS0
  Pritner Port /dev/ttyS1
  Ethernet Interface = eth0
Memory Misc
  MacOS Ram Size (MB) = 256
  /AllProgs/macintosh_emulation/MacOS8.5_ROM/Mac OS ROM
  Ignore Illegal Memory Accesses (SELECTED)
JIT Compiler
  Enable JIT Compiler (SELECTED)
  Enable built-in 68k DR Emulator (SELECTED)

##########################

Re: [B2-devel] limitation to Mac OS 9.0.4 ?

[Alexei S. <isv...@sy...>]

Version of Mac OS 9 later than 9.0.4 require a hardware MMU unit,  
which SheepShaver does not emulate.

To support these operating systems, additional code must be added to  
emulate the MMU (Memory Management Unit).

-Alexei Svitkine

[B2-devel] limitation to Mac OS 9.0.4 ?

[Martin C. <im...@vi...>]

I would like to know why there is a limitation to Mac OS 9.0.4 in 
Sheepshaver and if there is a way to use 9.2.2.

We use a software (Helix database) who need 9.2.2 and want to move to 
Macs with Intel processors.  We absolutely need Helix so we cannot do 
the move until we have a solution.

Thanks for your help !

Martin

[B2-devel] Problems Creating with ./configure, in SheepShaver 2.2 and SheepShaver CVS, on Mandriva

[Andrew L. <and...@in...>]

Hi, 

The system environment is:
 x86_64 (Mandriva 2007, running on a Dual-Core-2 system); 
 gcc 4.1.1
kernel 2.6.17-13
SheepShaver-2.2-20050321.tar.bz2
BasiliskII_src_31052001.tar.gz

BasiliskII configures and makes OK.

If I then 
cd SheepShaver
./autogen.sh, 
the script proceeds to its end, without problems.

If I then 
cd src/Unix 
NO_CONFIGURE=3D1 ACLOCAL_FLAGS=3D"-I m4" ./autogen.sh
the result is as expected

I, however, I then run 
./configure, 
the script fails to recognize my system and aborts.  Here's the output 
from ./configure:

[andrew@localhost Unix]$ ./configure
checking build system type... Invalid configuration 
`x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu': machine `x86_64-unknown' not recognized
configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu failed
[andrew@localhost Unix]$ 

Is there an option I can pass to the 'configure', that would enable the script 
to proceed beyond this point please ?

Cheers,

Andrew

PS:
I have also tried the CVS version of SheepShaver.  ./configure proceeds 
further than the version described above, but still fails to complete.

Here's the tail end of the configure output from the CVS version of 
SheepShaver:
checking for linux/fb.h... yes
checking for XF86DGAQueryExtension in -lXxf86dga... yes
checking for XF86VidModeQueryExtension in -lXxf86vm... yes
./configure: line 7143: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
./configure: line 7143: `         gthread'
[andrew@localhost Unix]$          

I'd welcome & appreciate your suggestions as to how to proceed from here.

Re: [B2-devel] Solaris PKG available for BasiliskII 1.0

[Pomeroy L. <ad...@mi...>]

Ya I wanted to run Mac 9.1 or Tiger on my SUSE Linux 10.2 PC can I do that with qemu and if so can you please tell me how to set it up?

Jonathan Kalbfeld <jon...@gm...> wrote: You can get it from http://www.thoughtwave.com/downloads.html

I had to do the following to make it compile on Solaris:

Comment out the PTMX define in config.h 
Comment out the 'using std::map' line in ether_unix.cpp and change "static map" to "static std::map" farther down in the file. 
Enable typedefs in slirp_config.h

Other than that, it worked pretty well.  

I now have Mac OS 7.5.3 running inside of an emulated Mac IIci on my solaris 10/sparc system =)

Thanks and enjoy,

  jonathan


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[B2-devel] Solaris PKG available for BasiliskII 1.0

[Jonathan K. <jon...@gm...>]

You can get it from http://www.thoughtwave.com/downloads.html

I had to do the following to make it compile on Solaris:

Comment out the PTMX define in config.h
Comment out the 'using std::map' line in ether_unix.cpp and change "static
map" to "static std::map" farther down in the file.
Enable typedefs in slirp_config.h

Other than that, it worked pretty well.

I now have Mac OS 7.5.3 running inside of an emulated Mac IIci on my solaris
10/sparc system =)

Thanks and enjoy,

jonathan


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[B2-devel] Help with installation

[Lew Irwin/S. B. <st...@us...>]

I am a non-techie who is utterly confused by the installation instructions
for SheepShaver. I currently run two desktop computers, a G4 and a G5, and
switch between them. The G4 boots in OS9. When traveling, I also use two
computers, one an Intel MacBook Pro; the other a Titanium Powerbook, which
boots in OS9. SheepShaver would obviously make my life a lot easier.

I have purchased an old Macintosh Performa for the ROM image. Is there
anyone out there who can help me (for a reasonable price) install
SheepShaver in my newer models? (I'm planning to upgrade my desktop to an
Intel system if I can get SheepShaver up and running.)

I'm in the West Valley area of Los Angeles -- in Agoura Hills -- but can
meet anywhere.

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Re: [B2-devel] SheepShaver-2007-2-7 autogen error

[<hy...@dr...>]

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "howard spoelstra" how...@ho...
>To: bas...@li...
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:53:15 +0100
>Subject: Re: [B2-devel] SheepShaver-2007-2-7 autogen error
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:32:22 +0100> From: gb....@fr...> To: bas...@li...> Subject: Re: [B2-devel] SheepShaver-2007-2-7 autogen error> > Hi,> > > checking for GTK+ - version >= 1.3.15... yes (version 2.10.9)> > ./configure: line 7485: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'> > ./configure: line 7485: `             > > gtk_config_args="$gtk_config_args gthread"'> > How did you generate your configure script? In doubt, please try the > following way:> NO_CONFIGURE=1 ACLOCAL_FLAGS="-I m4" ./autogen.sh> > This should cover cases where you might not have the whole packages set > required by B2 installed. In particular, both gtk1-devel and > gtk2-devel, gettext-devel, etc.> > Regards,> Gwenole Beauchesne.> Hi,Several others got this error as well. When you use the configure.ac file in the version from, lets say, the 21th of January 2007 this error does not occur.Best wishes,Howard

>bas...@li...
>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/basilisk-devel
>

I installed gettext-devel, gtk+-devel,gtk2-devel

[hys545@localhost Unix]$ rpm -q gtk+-devel
gtk+-devel-1.2.10-41hs.1
[hys545@localhost Unix]$ rpm -q gtk2-devel
gtk2-devel-2.10.9-4
[hys545@localhost Unix]$ rpm -q gettext-devel
gettext-devel-0.14.6-4.1hs


I run 'NO_CONFIGURE=1 ACLOCAL_FLAGS="-I m4" "
same Error|

i deleted SheepShaver Directory & checkout 
 make links 
cd src/Unix
./autogen.sh


Same Error!
I user Haansoft linux(based Fedora)

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Re: [B2-devel] SheepShaver-2007-2-7 autogen error

[howard s. <how...@ho...>]

> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:32:22 +0100> From: gb....@fr...> To: basili=
sk-...@li...> Subject: Re: [B2-devel] SheepShaver-2007-2-=
7 autogen error> > Hi,> > > checking for GTK+ - version >=3D 1.3.15... yes =
(version 2.10.9)> > ./configure: line 7485: syntax error near unexpected to=
ken `newline'> > ./configure: line 7485: `             > > gtk_config_args=
=3D"$gtk_config_args gthread"'> > How did you generate your configure scrip=
t? In doubt, please try the > following way:> NO_CONFIGURE=3D1 ACLOCAL_FLAG=
S=3D"-I m4" ./autogen.sh> > This should cover cases where you might not hav=
e the whole packages set > required by B2 installed. In particular, both gt=
k1-devel and > gtk2-devel, gettext-devel, etc.> > Regards,> Gwenole Beauche=
sne.> Hi,Several others got this error as well. When you use the configure.=
ac file in the version from, lets say, the 21th of January 2007 this error =
does not occur.Best wishes,Howard
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Re: [B2-devel] SheepShaver-2007-2-7 autogen error

[Gwenole B. <gb....@fr...>]

Hi,

> checking for GTK+ - version >= 1.3.15... yes (version 2.10.9)
> ./configure: line 7485: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
> ./configure: line 7485: `             
> gtk_config_args="$gtk_config_args gthread"'

How did you generate your configure script? In doubt, please try the 
following way:
NO_CONFIGURE=1 ACLOCAL_FLAGS="-I m4" ./autogen.sh

This should cover cases where you might not have the whole packages set 
required by B2 installed. In particular, both gtk1-devel and 
gtk2-devel, gettext-devel, etc.

Regards,
Gwenole Beauchesne.

[B2-devel] SheepShaver-2007-2-7 autogen error

[<hy...@dr...>]

checking for sem_init... yes
checking linux/fb.h usability... yes
checking linux/fb.h presence... yes
checking for linux/fb.h... yes
checking for XF86DGAQueryExtension in -lXxf86dga... yes
checking for XF86VidModeQueryExtension in -lXxf86vm... yes
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking for GTK+ - version >= 1.3.15... yes (version 2.10.9)
./configure: line 7485: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
./configure: line 7485: `             gtk_config_args="$gtk_config_args gthread"'



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Re: [B2-devel] Intel emulator dies when emulating 68040?

[Bassie <jea...@te...>]

thank you for your quick reply ! yes out here (bookprinting company)
we=92ve been using basilisk II for ages already ! because we need to =
load
daily PS-fonts with hp-util to a printer for use with an amos
(alpha-microsystem) ! We=92 ve not ever experienced any problem at all
with the basilisk ethernet-driver at all ! I=92ve tried out even with =
fake
mac-adress and everything keeps working perfectly ! But no luck with SS
at all, when I use lan-connection, basilisk II driver , the apple logo
appears and vanishes immediately ! when i use slirp networking, SS does
boot but euh no networking at all with all settings possible tried !
(and belief me I really tried every possible setting, as I play sort of
networkadmin. here at work !) The only way SS can be used in our network
would be a working version with basilisk II driver !
Naturally, I appreciate the focus on the macosx platform, just a real
pitty for us here as we are stuck with windows and it would be fantastic
to use SS in stead of basilisk, as we are in a framemaker flow too here
!
Thx again !

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: bas...@li...
[mailto:bas...@li...] Namens Gwenole
Beauchesne
Verzonden: dinsdag 23 januari 2007 23:49
Aan: Bassie
CC: 'Discussions related to the development of Basilisk II'
Onderwerp: Re: [B2-devel] Intel emulator dies when emulating 68040?


Le mardi, 23 jan 2007, =E0 11:15 Europe/Paris, Bassie a =E9crit :

> people there start thinking that Sheepshaver isn't
> worked on by its developper anymore

Well, my plans for SheepShaver reduced as other projects went on and/or=20
resurrected. As of today, I would like to focus on:

- Better integration on the MacOS X platform: add the new GUI and=20
possibly drop SDL support in favor of native audio (from B2) and OpenGL=20
graphics. The latter doesn't mean 3D acceleration but use of e.g.=20
GL_UNPACK_CLIENT_STORAGE_APPLE and other OSX specifics to improve=20
graphics performance.

- Add a native_powerpc_cpu emulator for PowerPC platforms: i.e. an=20
alternative method to reach near-native performance on ppc instead of=20
using direct execution of ppc code (and its problems). This will bring=20
support for ppc64 host platforms + reoptimization for Cell (and whatnot=20
splitting instructions to avoid microcoded instructions).

The JIT rewrite is retargetted to another project.

> Yeah I know that in linux or osx platform the difficulties are
> bypassed by slirp settings !

slirp mode also works on Windows.

> And of course most of us are poor windows users with very little
> knowledge !

Well, I am not a windows developer and I have very little knowledge in=20
that field.

> If just you could find a way for us to use the basilisk-ethernet
> driver for windows
> without SS exiting or crashing !

Do you mean that the B2-ether driver works fine with Basilisk II but=20
not with SheepShaver? One difficulty of the Windows port is that this=20
platform doesn't support mappings of the first segment (64K at address=20
0). Hence a few hacks are used to keep the adress space consistent but=20
the behaviour of Windows is unpredictable and might trash the mappings=20
we had. And the initial ethernet code relied on a V=3DP mapping, not=20
V=3DP+offset (where P=3DHost(Windows) VA, V=3DGuest(MacOS) VA, =
VA=3Dvirtual=20
address). I tried to fix but it's probably not perfect yet.

Can you check whether slirp works without crashing on your platform?

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Re: [B2-devel] Intel emulator dies when emulating 68040?

[Alexei S. <isv...@sy...>]

> - Better integration on the MacOS X platform: add the new GUI and

Hey, I was going to do that... since I did the new GUI for OS X in  
the first place. :P

-Alexei Svitkine

Re: [B2-devel] Intel emulator dies when emulating 68040?

[Gwenole B. <gb....@fr...>]

Le mardi, 23 jan 2007, =E0 11:15 Europe/Paris, Bassie a =E9crit :

> people there start thinking that Sheepshaver isn't
> worked on by its developper anymore

Well, my plans for SheepShaver reduced as other projects went on and/or=20=

resurrected. As of today, I would like to focus on:

- Better integration on the MacOS X platform: add the new GUI and=20
possibly drop SDL support in favor of native audio (from B2) and OpenGL=20=

graphics. The latter doesn't mean 3D acceleration but use of e.g.=20
GL_UNPACK_CLIENT_STORAGE_APPLE and other OSX specifics to improve=20
graphics performance.

- Add a native_powerpc_cpu emulator for PowerPC platforms: i.e. an=20
alternative method to reach near-native performance on ppc instead of=20
using direct execution of ppc code (and its problems). This will bring=20=

support for ppc64 host platforms + reoptimization for Cell (and whatnot=20=

splitting instructions to avoid microcoded instructions).

The JIT rewrite is retargetted to another project.

> Yeah I know that in linux or osx platform the difficulties are=20
> bypassed by slirp settings !

slirp mode also works on Windows.

> And of course most of us are poor windows users with very little=20
> knowledge !

Well, I am not a windows developer and I have very little knowledge in=20=

that field.

> If just you could find a way for us to use the basilisk-ethernet=20
> driver for windows
> without SS exiting or crashing !

Do you mean that the B2-ether driver works fine with Basilisk II but=20
not with SheepShaver? One difficulty of the Windows port is that this=20
platform doesn't support mappings of the first segment (64K at address=20=

0). Hence a few hacks are used to keep the adress space consistent but=20=

the behaviour of Windows is unpredictable and might trash the mappings=20=

we had. And the initial ethernet code relied on a V=3DP mapping, not=20
V=3DP+offset (where P=3DHost(Windows) VA, V=3DGuest(MacOS) VA, =
VA=3Dvirtual=20
address). I tried to fix but it's probably not perfect yet.

Can you check whether slirp works without crashing on your platform?=

Re: [B2-devel] Intel emulator dies when emulating 68040?

[Bassie <jea...@te...>]

hey there, first of all congratulations for all you've done in the
emulationscene for all of us ! daily i follow messages at the
emaculation-forum ! people there start thinking that Sheepshaver isn't
worked on by its developper anymore, and that the chances on any updates
would be practically nihil, which is understandable as it has almost
become a worthy stable application. But at the forum you will read that
most people (as myself to) are having the greatest difficulties in
getting network working ! Yeah I know that in linux or osx platform the
difficulties are bypassed by slirp settings ! but here at work we are
obliged to use basilisk II with its ethernetdriver to load fonts to a HP
printer for use on a amos (alpha-micro)-system ! And of course most of
us are poor windows users with very little knowledge ! If just you could
find a way for us to use the basilisk-ethernet driver for windows
without SS exiting or crashing ! so that in a lan-environment (mac-win)
we could forget about basilisk as it isn't powerpc compat.
hope didn't ask to much and if due lack of time or any other reason, for
you this would be inpossible, I will understand that too, I'm already in
your debt for how it works right now

Thx. in avance and for everything

JM. Bastiaens

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Aan: Discussions related to the development of Basilisk II
Onderwerp: Re: [B2-devel] Intel emulator dies when emulating 68040?


Hi,

> Can't remember if anyone has reported this before.
> Loading Mac OS 7.6, emulating an 040 and Quadra 900.
> It marches past the extensions, and is just about to
> load the Finder:

I get a similar problem with the pure MacOS X port (building from 
MacOSX/) unlike building from the Unix/ directory with SDL support. I 
have not really investigated why, neither did I try to set the 
emulation to 030. Actually the crash can occur at any time.

It could be a miscompilation (which is not unsual on that platform), or 
some stack alignment problem but there should not be any nowadays. i.e. 
reminder: it works with a Unix/ + SDL port.

Does it work with 030+FPU?

BTW, I also tried to fully build from the command line. It works on 
PPC, but B2 dies the same way on Intel. Some flags may be missing on 
Intel side. Anyway, I'd probably commit this too as I'd prefer building 
the whole emulator from command line and only use e.g. Interface 
Builder to update the GUI.

> How can I debug further on Mac OS X?

I tried to gdb it but it was not very useful. :-(

I may try again to debug on this weekend.


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Re: [B2-devel] Intel emulator dies when emulating 68040?

[Gwenole B. <gb....@fr...>]

Hi,

> Can't remember if anyone has reported this before.
> Loading Mac OS 7.6, emulating an 040 and Quadra 900.
> It marches past the extensions, and is just about to
> load the Finder:

I get a similar problem with the pure MacOS X port (building from 
MacOSX/) unlike building from the Unix/ directory with SDL support. I 
have not really investigated why, neither did I try to set the 
emulation to 030. Actually the crash can occur at any time.

It could be a miscompilation (which is not unsual on that platform), or 
some stack alignment problem but there should not be any nowadays. i.e. 
reminder: it works with a Unix/ + SDL port.

Does it work with 030+FPU?

BTW, I also tried to fully build from the command line. It works on 
PPC, but B2 dies the same way on Intel. Some flags may be missing on 
Intel side. Anyway, I'd probably commit this too as I'd prefer building 
the whole emulator from command line and only use e.g. Interface 
Builder to update the GUI.

> How can I debug further on Mac OS X?

I tried to gdb it but it was not very useful. :-(

I may try again to debug on this weekend.

[B2-devel] Intel emulator dies when emulating 68040?

[Nigel P. <ni...@in...>]

Can't remember if anyone has reported this before.
Loading Mac OS 7.6, emulating an 040 and Quadra 900.
It marches past the extensions, and is just about to
load the Finder:

Basilisk II V1.0 by Christian Bauer et al.
Reading ROM file...
Illegal instruction: 95320 at 0002f008


Downgrading the emulation to an 030,
or using PPC version, has no problems.


How can I debug further on Mac OS X?

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Re: [B2-devel] SheepShaver Prefs Editor for OS X

[Jason Q. <ja...@ja...>]

Hey Alexei!

Very nice, much better than the old one - well done!

Cheers,
Jason.

On 12/25/06, Alexei Svitkine <isv...@sy...> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I made a prefs editor in Cocoa for SheepShaver on Mac OS X.
>
> Its much more useable than the "SheepShaverGUI" that comes with
> SheepShaver on the Mac.
>
> Grab it at: http://fizzysoft.net/get.php?f=SheepShaverPrefs.zip
>
> To use it, simply drop it into your SheepShaver folder, and it works
> like SheepShaverGUI, but better.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> -Alexei Svitkine
> http://fizzysoft.net/
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[B2-devel] SheepShaver Prefs Editor for OS X

[Alexei S. <isv...@sy...>]

Hi folks,

I made a prefs editor in Cocoa for SheepShaver on Mac OS X.

Its much more useable than the "SheepShaverGUI" that comes with  
SheepShaver on the Mac.

Grab it at: http://fizzysoft.net/get.php?f=SheepShaverPrefs.zip

To use it, simply drop it into your SheepShaver folder, and it works  
like SheepShaverGUI, but better.

Enjoy,

-Alexei Svitkine
http://fizzysoft.net/

[B2-devel] USB Printing

[Mark P. <mar...@ao...>]

Hi all,
This is a "Printing using Sheepshaver" question.  I use one program  
that only runs in Mac OS 9 from which I need to print.  Currently I  
print with a USB printer using Classic mode in Mac OS X.  If I bought  
an Intel Mac and use SheepShaver, would I be able to hook up the HP  
printer using USB and print from my OS9 program using SheepShaver?

Mark

[B2-devel] extfs bugs in SheepShaver for Intel Macs

[Joshua J. <jj...@gm...>]

Greetings.

First of all, thanks to the developers for what I'm sure has been a  
lot of hard work.  I just got a new iMac and am delighted to have a  
classic Mac OS box running on it.

Now, onto the bugs:

I'm running SheepShaver 2.3-Pre (2006/05/14) for MacOS X Intel,  
booting 8.5 with the ROM from ROM Update 1.0.

The "Unix" volume doesn't show up in the Finder or Standard File.  I  
was surprised to discover that I was actually able to access it using  
one of my own utilities.  I haven't checked this out yet, but maybe  
the root directory has the Invisible bit set.

I then noticed that I had to encode files (e.g. using MacBinary) in  
order to get them through the extfs translation unscathed.  It turns  
out that SheepShaver is not byte-swapping the type and creator codes,  
so TEXT files become TXET, APPLications are LPPA, etc.  Hilarity  
ensues.  Perhaps the invisible volume problem is byte-order-related  
as well.

I don't know if this is related, but a different utility of mine was  
getting volume-not-found errors (OSErr -35) when calling FindFolder()  
to get the Temporary Items folder (on the 'appropriate' volume, not  
"Unix").  My workaround is not to call FindFolder().  I now have my  
build tool running inside SheepShaver!  :-)

Again, thanks for the amazing work.  You probably won't hear this  
from me as often as you deserve it, but please bear in mind that I  
only report bugs in the first place on projects that have earned my  
respect and admiration, which this one certainly has.

Josh

Re: [B2-devel] I still need some help here.

[howard s. <how...@ho...>]

Hi,

Have you tried to install a package by some name like "readlinecompat" ? It 
should provide SheepShaver with the neccessary tool, but I don't know if it 
is available on your distro.

And about your networking problems: turn of networking for now.

You can find information on how to build the sheep_net driver (and other 
networking options) at: 
http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/sheepshaver/help/networking

The emaculation forum at http://www.emaculation.com/forum has gathered a lot 
of information on how to run mac emulators and is visited by more users able 
to help.


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>I am using FC6 32 bit on a 64 bit computer. I try to install sheepshaver 
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>sheepshaver. However every time I restart my computer sheepshaver will not 
>turn on and libreadline4-4.3-9mdk.i586 is no longer isntalled. So I 
>resintall libreadline4-4.3-9mdk.i586 and it opens. Then when I get 
>everything set up to run it says it can't find an eathernet file.
>
>SheepShaver Warning
>Cannot open /dev/sheep_net (No such file or directory). Ethernet will not 
>be available.
>Then I click ok and it exits.


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[B2-devel] I still need some help here.

[Pomeroy L. <ad...@mi...>]

I am using FC6 32 bit on a 64 bit computer. I try to install sheepshaver and it needs  libreadline4-4.3-9mdk.i586 and I install it and install sheepshaver. However every time I restart my computer sheepshaver will not turn on and libreadline4-4.3-9mdk.i586 is no longer isntalled. So I resintall libreadline4-4.3-9mdk.i586 and it opens. Then when I get everything set up to run it says it can't find an eathernet file.

SheepShaver Warning
Cannot open /dev/sheep_net (No such file or directory). Ethernet will not be available. 
Then I click ok and it exits.