Re: [Audacity-quality] Rename Note tracks to MIDI tracks

[Steve t. F. <ste...@gm...>]

On 30 July 2017 at 13:22, Peter Sampson <pet...@gm...> wrote:
> In the light of Steve's comments about NOte tracks and MIDI - and now
> Allegro.
>
> I note that we have a command called File>Import MIDI
>
> we don't have a command File>Import Notes (or similar) to handle both
> formats
>
> Just saying ...
>
> But it leaves me wondering what we should be doing about this  ???
>
> Peter.
>
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Peter Sampson
> <pet...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Steve the Fiddle
>> <ste...@gm...> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 29 July 2017 at 14:24, James Crook <cr...@in...> wrote:
>>> > On 7/29/2017 12:06 PM, Peter Sampson wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> James wrote in a parallel thread (and sorry I can't find it right now)
>>> >> that
>>> >> for 2.2.1
>>> >> we should consider renaming Note tracks to MIDI tracks.
>>> >>
>>> >> I support this idea - but I strongly think we should temporarily lift
>>> >> the
>>> >> semi-freddo for this
>>> >> and do it for 2.2.0.
>>> >
>>> > Many translators have already submitted .po files for 2.2.0, for the
>>> > test
>>> > build.
>>> > I think it could/would make sense to rename to MIDI Track after the
>>> > test
>>> > build, if we do it, as the translators are expecting/ready for tweaks
>>> > after
>>> > that build.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --James.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> My reasoning for this is that with 2.2.0 we are putting a much sharper
>>> >> and
>>> >> bigger focus
>>> >> on this with Audacity providing functioning MIDI playback for the
>>> >> first
>>> >> time- and thus this
>>> >> would be the ideal time to make the switch, I'm thinking.
>>> >>
>>> >> AFAIK nothing else but importing a MIDI file is the only way to get a
>>> >> Note
>>> >> track
>>>
>>> A Note Track can also be created by importing an Allegro (.gro) file.
>>
>>
>>
>> Which begs the question:  can you play an Allegro file in an Audacity Note
>> track

I would have though so, but I can't currently play any Note tracks on Linux.

>> (on all three platforms - with/without softsynths)?
>>
>> If someone can please send me a .gro Allegro file for testing that would
>> be most helpful.

You can easily make one yourself:

1) Import a MIDI file
2) "File menu > Save Other > Export MIDI"
3) Select "ALlegro file (*.gro)" as the file type
4) Enter a file name WITH ".gro" FILE EXTENSION
5) Export.
You should now have an Allegro file.

>>
>> I assume that this means that we should also be mentioning Allegro files
>> on the
>> Notes tracks page in addition to the MIDI stuff?

Yes we should (imo).

>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Although .GRO files are imported via the "File > Import > MIDI" menu,
>>> .GRO files are not MIDI files, they are very different (try opening a
>>> .GRO file in a text editor).
>>>
>>> In testing this, I notice several bugs:
>>>
>>> 1) Dragging and dropping a .GRO file does not work (Audacity does not
>>> recognise the file type.
>>>
>>> 2) Selecting the "Allegro (.gro)" file type in the "File > Save Other
>>> > Export MIDI" does not export an Allegro file unless ".gro" is typed
>>> as the file extension. If no file extension is given, a MIDI (.MID)
>>> file is exported.
>>>
>>> 3)
>>> i) Launch Audacity
>>> ii) Import a MIDI file
>>> iii) Import another MIDI file
>>> iv) Delete the second Note Track by clicking on the [X]
>>> v) "File > Save Other >"
>>> The "Export MIDI" option is greyed out, even though the project
>>> contains a Note track.
>>
>>
>> So are you going to raise Bugzilla entries for these bugs Steve?

Not had time yet, but yes will do.

Steve

>>
>> Cheers,
>> Peter.
>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> >- so I see
>>> >> no reason not to do this - the only question is: do we do it now?
>>> >>
>>> >> Just my 2c-worth
>>> >>
>>> >> Peter.
>>> >
>>> >
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