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From: Ed M. <edg...@ya...> - 2009-10-03 00:20:12
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To ensure that I was working with the most recent version of Audacity, immediately before running these
tests I grabbed the "nightly build" on 2 October 2009.
Gale said:
>1. Exit Audacity and initialise .cfg
>2. Launch Audacity, choose language, OK welcome, exit
>3. Launch Audacity, OK welcome, Task switch to Explorer, relaunch Audacity
>4. I now have the window I just created by relaunching
> Audacity, offset from top left. The first is minimised
> (accessible by the taskbar icon or Task Switcher), but
> I did not actually ask to minimise it. I think it might be
> less confusing if it behaved just as File > New does,
> leaving the first window visible top left but without focus.
(1) In order to "initialize .cfg" I renamed it as audacity.cfg.OLD (deleting this file works just as well).
(2) I note that when I do this I get the splash screen (welcome) but no offer to choose language. This led me to examine my Windows Registry.
(a) I note that Audacity opens a project window at the location and size which was
prevalent before I renamed the configuration file. I'm guessing that on
Windows this is a registry setting. In my registry, even though I had uninstalled Audacity 1.2.6, I find settings
from Audacity 1.2.6; I removed those settings. Removing those entries eliminated 2 problems. Audacity 1.3.10
Beta seems to be picking up those registry entry values one of which was Language the other one had to do
with starting window location and size. The latter may very well be critical to the "hidden 2nd project window"
bug!
(3 & 4) Following your instructions explicitly, I do not get the same results. For me I get the expected
results -- the 1st project window opens in the default location and size, the 2nd project
window opens slightly offset from the 1st project window with the same size. Knowing that you
preferred to work with your project window maximized by modified your 2nd step:
(2)Launch Audacity, choose language, OK welcome, [maximized project window] exit
Then I followed your steps 3; after I OK' d the splash screen Audacity's project window opened
maximized. As the folder in which the Audacity executable is located was open, its icon was
available on the taskbar -- I selected it to bring the folder into view on top of the maximized
Audacity project window. I double clicked the Audacity executable icon to launch a new
project window. Again, the the results were as expected -- a new project opened and it's
window was maximized. Obviously, I could not determine visually the state of the original project
window so I iconized the 2nd project -- the 1st project remain visible and maximized. Just to be sure,
I re-created the test, deleting the configuration file and following your steps explicitly again
maximizing the project window in step 2. This time, after opening the 2nd project window (which
again opened maximized) I chose to restored down the 2nd project window. In this case, the
2nd project window became no longer minimize but occupied exactly the same amount of screen
real estate -- the only way I could distinguish it from a maximized window was by noting the change
in the little "rectangle" icon at the top right-hand corner of the window and by noting the little tiny
triangle of dots (resizing gadget) in the lower right-hand corner. Is there any chance that this is what you
observed? If not, this must be a Vista vs. XP issue and we will need to have others chime in (especially
those on Mac and UNIX)!
-Ed Musgrove
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From: John C. <jc...@gm...> - 2009-10-03 03:19:54
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Ed Musgrove wrote:
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<pre wrap="">To ensure that I was working with the most recent version of Audacity, immediately before running these
tests I grabbed the "nightly build" on 2 October 2009.
Gale said:
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">1. Exit Audacity and initialise .cfg
2. Launch Audacity, choose language, OK welcome, exit
3. Launch Audacity, OK welcome, Task switch to Explorer, relaunch Audacity
4. I now have the window I just created by relaunching
Audacity, offset from top left. The first is minimised
(accessible by the taskbar icon or Task Switcher), but
I did not actually ask to minimise it. I think it might be
less confusing if it behaved just as File > New does,
leaving the first window visible top left but without focus.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
(1) In order to "initialize .cfg" I renamed it as audacity.cfg.OLD (deleting this file works just as well).
(2) I note that when I do this I get the splash screen (welcome) but no offer to choose language. This led me to examine my Windows Registry.
(a) I note that Audacity opens a project window at the location and size which was
prevalent before I renamed the configuration file. I'm guessing that on
Windows this is a registry setting. In my registry, even though I had uninstalled Audacity 1.2.6, I find settings
from Audacity 1.2.6; I removed those settings. Removing those entries eliminated 2 problems. Audacity 1.3.10
Beta seems to be picking up those registry entry values one of which was Language the other one had to do
with starting window location and size. The latter may very well be critical to the "hidden 2nd project window"
bug!
</pre>
</blockquote>
Ed, I don't think 1.2.6 had that bug in it - but it could have had
other bugs.<br>
<br>
However, I wonder if a 2.0 installation should ask <i>before</i>
moving 1.2 settings from the Registry. This might simplify some issues.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:276...@we..."
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
(3 & 4) Following your instructions explicitly, I do not get the same results. For me I get the expected
results -- the 1st project window opens in the default location and size, the 2nd project
window opens slightly offset from the 1st project window with the same size. Knowing that you
preferred to work with your project window maximized by modified your 2nd step:
(2)Launch Audacity, choose language, OK welcome, [maximized project window] exit
Then I followed your steps 3; after I OK' d the splash screen Audacity's project window opened
maximized. As the folder in which the Audacity executable is located was open, its icon was
available on the taskbar -- I selected it to bring the folder into view on top of the maximized
Audacity project window. I double clicked the Audacity executable icon to launch a new
project window. Again, the the results were as expected -- a new project opened and it's
window was maximized. Obviously, I could not determine visually the state of the original project
window so I iconized the 2nd project -- the 1st project remain visible and maximized. Just to be sure,
I re-created the test, deleting the configuration file and following your steps explicitly again
maximizing the project window in step 2. This time, after opening the 2nd project window (which
again opened maximized) I chose to restored down the 2nd project window. In this case, the
2nd project window became no longer minimize but occupied exactly the same amount of screen
real estate -- the only way I could distinguish it from a maximized window was by noting the change
in the little "rectangle" icon at the top right-hand corner of the window and by noting the little tiny
triangle of dots (resizing gadget) in the lower right-hand corner. Is there any chance that this is what you
observed? If not, this must be a Vista vs. XP issue and we will need to have others chime in (especially
those on Mac and UNIX)!
-Ed Musgrove
</pre>
</blockquote>
(And I'm thinking it is an SP2 vs. SP3 issue...) - John<br>
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From: Ed M. <edg...@ya...> - 2009-10-03 04:41:16
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I will install 1.2.6 early next week and see...
2.x should completely ignore Windows Registry (as far as I understand).
XP/Vista SP2/SP3--you say potato (long A) I say potato (short A) :> !
-Ed Musgrove
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From: John Colket jc...@gm...
Ed: > Windows this is a registry setting. In my registry, even though I had uninstalled Audacity 1.2.6, I find settings
> >from Audacity 1.2.6;
> Ed, I don't think 1.2.6 had that bug in it - but it could have had other bugs.
However, I wonder if a 2.0 installation should ask before moving 1.2 settings from the Registry. This might simplify some issues.
>Ed: >If not, this must be a Vista vs. XP issue and we will need to have others chime in (especially
> those on Mac and UNIX)!
> (And I'm thinking it is an SP2 vs. SP3 issue...) - John
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