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Re: [Aubit4gl-discuss] "Content management/marketing" person/manager for Aubit project
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From: infotbs <in...@ya...> - 2004-02-23 20:01:36
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Great draft. I'd first like to concentrate on the web site. I like the idea of putting a CMS in place, it'll save so much time later on. I'll have a look this week at a few and come up with a suggestion while at the same time getting familiar with the SF system. At the risk of going off topic, does anyone have a preference other than the ones you've already mentioned? My SF account name is rmacneil. Ron --- Andrej Falout <an...@fa...> wrote: > Great! > > All it really takes is a bit of good will and a bit of time. > > Legend: > > Home page=http://aubit4gl.sf.net/ > SF=http://sf.net/projects/aubit4gl/ > > Let's try to create a draft list of tasks "Content management/marketing" > person/manager for Aubit project should perform: > > 1) Update web site, especially home page. > > All web pages for web site are maintained in CVS, under aubit4glwww. So > check out this from CVS (once you got the login) and have fun! (NB. > design is err... questionable, so if you know your way around designing > a better one, please do. After you are happy with what you did, do a > 'cvs commit'. > > Several items will need to be obsoleted, and practically everything > needs to be checked against current status. There is a lot of space for > improvements, and a lot of things might be useful to add there. (At one > point, I was thinking it might be a good idea to replace all of this > static pages with real "CMS" like PostNuke or Xaraya - depending on > your comfort levels with such solutions, you might want to consider it > too). > > Now make this available to public; To do this, you will need to login on > SF shell server, and therefore you will need SF login name. If you don't > have it, create one and let me know what is it so I can add you to the > list of authorised. > > Once you are logged in there (check out extensive documentation about > CVS, SSH, SF shell servers, etc. under "Site Docs" item on SF) cd to > Aubit web root and do a 'cvs update'. This will fetch everything you > commited to CVS on the unsuspecting web server. You will also note that > this will not only fetch aubit4glwww directory from CVS, it will also > fetch aubit4gldoc (John is working on new documentation, so we should > sinchronize this efforts somehow - we need to discuss this) to create > pages fro on-line documentation set. > > 2) Every week or 2, update (at least) news on SF. > > See what's happening on the mailing list, and make a news out of it. Ask > me or Mike to provide info or help as needed. We will try to 'feed' > mailing list with user relevant information. > > There is also several items on SF that need some consideration, like > "DocManager" and stuff that needs to be monitored like "Public Forums" > (A web-based discussion forum not connected to the mailing list - I was > wondering a few times if this one should be disabled so it does not > create impression that there is no activity since most active people are > on the mailing list and don't monitor that forum). > > In general, take look around and use common sense. Post a request for > opinions on the mailing list when unsure. > > > 3) Maintain downloads on SF as needed. > > This is a tricky one; If we can get automatic nightly builds to reliably > go trough the test suite (currently some 600 tests) we can reasonably > say that every such build is "reasonably" stable. > > In any case, we should release something soon. You may want to use > Mike's MARS builds, but they are tgz only. > > Maybe we should synchronise John's efforts on docs, update of the web > site, and once we can run all tests cal it version 1.0 ? > > 4) General promotional work. > > This involves C.D.I newsgroup (and therefore IIUG mailing list), > FreshMeat (we have an entry there, Mike is maintainer of theat so ask > him to do updates as needed) and possibly 4Js mailing list (_DONT_ use > word "Aubit" there, and _DONT_ promote the compiler - 4Js folks are > alergic to that for obvious reasons, but you can promote other > sub-projects of Aubit project like Doc4GL, code generator, libraries, > etc, things that can benefit people using other 4GL compilers). > > Aubit4gl-announce list should also receive relevant news items at least > every month. Some people subscribe ONLY to this list, so tho get there > interest we need to maintain activity there. > > PostgreSQL mailing list is another valid target, just make sure you > emphasise why and how is Aubit related to PostgreSQL environments. > > Think about other places and ways you can get attention for Aubit > project. Maybe things like posting an article on SlashDot about > relevance of Fourth Generation Languages in the era of Java and .Net. > Writing an article for "Linux Journal". Give a presentation on > OpenSource/4GL/Aubit project in your local University/ IT school (see > http://falout.org/falout/andrej/IT/articles/presentations.htm). Don't > limit yourself to the options I suggested here, I am sure there are > hundreds ways to achieve our goals of promoting Aubit project. > > Don't forget, DO NOT SPAM! Post relevant information that can benefit > intended audience, and don't forget to mention that this is an > OpenSource project, and therefore "free" and that we are no trying to > sell anything to them for money. (There was angry reaction recently on > C.D.I. when PEAR maintainer posted news of current release - by people > that obviously did not know what PEAR was.) Before you do such posts, > you might want to discuss a draft on Aubit mailing list first, to make > sure it will get expected reaction. > > 5) Be inventive, be proactive, be creative > > Think about our motivation; we want to develop it, we want to promote > it, so that more people join us in our effort. > > We want to show people that this project is worth supporting, that it is > active, and we want to emphasise ways in which it directly impacts there > needs. > > So if you can think of better/new ways to do this, please do it/propose > it/discuss it. > > I cannot stress enough how important work _OUTSIDE_ code development is; > work on documentation, work on promotion/web site is. What good is it to > have all this great 4GL tools and compiler, and nobody knows how to use > them? What good is it to have anything is nobody can find it, or it is > presented in a manner that does not encourage participation? To make > Aubit 4GL a real option for real production level application > development, we need participation from more people. To get it, wee need > to offer them something, and offer it in a way that will intrigue them, > not confuse them, and motivate them, not discourage them. If we can > achieve this, result will be that we will all share the benefits, and > ultimately achieve the goal of completely free 4GL development set of > tools we need in our professional lives. > > As always, try to create persistant trail of information that can be > searched and therefore benefit more then few (Which is the reason why > I'm CC-ing this to Aubit mailing list) > > Thanks, > Andrej > > > > On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 01:18, infotbs wrote: > > I'm not much of either (I'm more of 4GL developer) but I do think I can > take > > this on. I'd like to contribute more to the project, and this may be a way > > that I can help since I know C even less. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ron MacNeil > > Systems Analyst > > > > -- Andrej Falout <an...@fa...> wrote: > What we really need is a > person > > that would volunteer to take care of the > > > web site, news items, releases, promoting Aubit in places like > > > FreshMeat... > > > > > > A "Content management/marketing" person/manager... > > > > > > This would only take about 2-5 hours a week, but it would bring you > > > eternal glory & gratitude (because we are building a force of > > > extraordinary magnitude) > > > > > > Any takers? > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Yours, Andrej Falout... > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. > > > Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with > > > a free DVD software kit from IBM. 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