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Re: [Asunit-users] AsUnit 3.x working?

[Matt F. <mat...@gm...>]

Hey Luke,

Thanks for your reply.

>> events in AS 3.0 fire synchronously, so I usually test them by
triggering the event and
>> then checking the state of the object in a regular TestCase.

The approach I have been using sounds the same:
1) In my TestCase I write a test designed to test the state of the
object after an Event has fired.
2) In my Testcase I override the run method and trigger the event
(subscribing to it)
3) In the event handler I call super.run();

The problem I find with this approach is that if the event doesn't
fire (for whatever reason) then super.run() is never called and hence
no tests run/no tests fail!
In larger projects when you have perhaps 100s of tests it becomes
harder to track the exact number of tests expected to run. Hence you
can be in a situation when all your tests appear to be passing, but in
reality all your tests aren't running.

I have experimented with including timeout checks (to test whether the
event fired) however I find this to be pretty messy and generally find
that the TestCases don't scale particularly well in such when this is
implemented.

Do you also find this a problem?


>> Mock Objects are also useful when testing abstract classes

I had actually been using Concrete implementations of Abstract Classes
designed specifically for testing purposes, so this seems to fit with
the description of Mock Objects.

Thanks for all the info

Cheers
Matt



On 11/13/05, Luke Bayes <lb...@gm...> wrote:
> Hey Matt,
>
>  Thanks for the kind words!
>
>  I'm really glad to hear that someone got the XUL UI and AsUnit 3.x up an=
d
> running!
>
>
> > I wondering if  the new Event Model in AS3, with its bubble nature
> > will make it easier to test event based code?
>
>  That's actually a very good idea, I haven't really messed with the bubbl=
e
> feature much yet... If you get something going like that, I would love to
> see it.
>
>  As far as using AsynchronousTestCase to test event based code, I'm not s=
ure
> that's really the best way because events in AS 3.0 fire synchronously, s=
o I
> usually test them by triggering the event and then checking the state of =
the
> object in a regular TestCase.
>
>  We created the AsynchronousTestCase and Example because there are occasi=
ons
> where we wanted to test functionality that isn't compiled into the swf fi=
le.
> EG: Loaders and Sockets.
>
>  This actually leads nicely into your next question:
>
>
> > Also can you please explain the nature of Mock Object Test Cases - and
> > when we might choose to use one?
>
>  Generally, when you want to test an object that consumes asynchronous
> functionaliy (like the client of a Socket connection), you should typical=
ly
> build a Mock Object of the Socket and use that instead of the Socket itse=
lf.
> This is different from testing the Socket. As mentioned before, an
> AsynchronousTestCase would be used to validate the Socket, but then a
> SocketMock would be used to test it's clients.
>
>  http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?MockObject
>
>  Mock Objects are also useful when testing abstract classes. Of course AS
> 3.0 doesn't natively support the abstract keyword, but we have been
> implementing abstract classes by throwing an error in the constructor, th=
en
> using a Mock object to validate it's functionality.
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Luke Bayes
>  www.asunit.org
>
>
>

Re: [Asunit-users] Re: XUL UI

[Nigel H. <nig...@gm...>]

Thanks Luke!

This should get me started. I look forward to the tutorials :-)

- Nigel

On 11/12/05, Luke Bayes <lb...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Sorry Nigel,
>
> I think what you're looking for is here:
> http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=3D369555
>
> Thanks,
>
> Luke Bayes
> www.asunit.org <http://www.asunit.org>
>

Re: [Asunit-users] Re: XUL UI

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

Sorry Nigel,

I think what you're looking for is here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=3D369555

Thanks,

Luke Bayes
www.asunit.org <http://www.asunit.org>

Re: [Asunit-users] XUL UI

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

Hey Nigel,

I definitely appreciate your feedback and I'm sorry that you've found it so
frustrating. The answer to all of your questions is an emphatic YES.

We do plan on dramatically simplifying the process required to get up and
running. Unfortunately, our time is being pulled in many directions right
now. I have spent more than a few hours (40+) trying to build an installer
for Firefox so that the XUL UI could be run as a simple extension, but alas=
,
for all my effort I have been unsuccessful. Once we have that going, we wil=
l
be a long way toward the goal.

As far as tutorials go, YES. We would love to get some tutorials and
examples posted that make this process much easier. Again, this is a
resource allocation issue...

I hope to have more solid info by the end of the year, and as always, we ar=
e
hoping to get some help from the community! This is an open-source project
after all...

If you're looking for more general information on Test-Driven development,
you can find some really great (and applicable) tutorials at
www.juint.org<http://www.juint.org>
.



Thanks,


Luke Bayes
www.asunit.org <http://www.asunit.org>

Re: [Asunit-users] AsUnit 3.x working?

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

Hey Matt,

Thanks for the kind words!

I'm really glad to hear that someone got the XUL UI and AsUnit 3.x up and
running!

I wondering if the new Event Model in AS3, with its bubble nature
> will make it easier to test event based code?


That's actually a very good idea, I haven't really messed with the bubble
feature much yet... If you get something going like that, I would love to
see it.

As far as using AsynchronousTestCase to test event based code, I'm not sure
that's really the best way because events in AS 3.0 fire synchronously, so =
I
usually test them by triggering the event and then checking the state of th=
e
object in a regular TestCase.

We created the AsynchronousTestCase and Example because there are occasions
where we wanted to test functionality that isn't compiled into the swf file=
.
EG: Loaders and Sockets.

This actually leads nicely into your next question:

Also can you please explain the nature of Mock Object Test Cases - and
> when we might choose to use one?


Generally, when you want to test an object that consumes asynchronous
functionaliy (like the client of a Socket connection), you should typically
build a Mock Object of the Socket and use that instead of the Socket itself=
.
This is different from testing the Socket. As mentioned before, an
AsynchronousTestCase would be used to validate the Socket, but then a
SocketMock would be used to test it's clients.

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?MockObject

Mock Objects are also useful when testing abstract classes. Of course
AS 3.0doesn't natively support the abstract keyword, but we have been
implementing
abstract classes by throwing an error in the constructor, then using a Mock
object to validate it's functionality.

Thanks,

Luke Bayes
www.asunit.org <http://www.asunit.org>

[Asunit-users] XUL UI

[Nigel H. <nig...@gm...>]

Hi,

The idea of test driven Actionscript development sounds 'very' interesting.
But although this may sound harsh, there is nowhere near enough info on
getting AsUnit and XUL set up and running. I just do not have the time to
mess about bouncing round a number of sites working out how to get this
thing going.

Do you have any plans to produce a tutorial so any idiot like me can get up
and running. And I do not mean a blog posting pointing to a few sites where
you may or may not be able to work things out. I mean a one stop shop. A
detailed tutorial that shows you how to get XUL and AsUnit set up and then
have a simple test written and running.

It would also be interesting to know what cannot be unit tested e.g.
movieclip creation? Or have some generic tests for common code or
situations. This kind of thing would really help people get going.

Thanks,
-Nigel

Re: [Asunit-users] AsUnit 3.x working?

[Matt F. <mat...@gm...>]

Hi Luke,

Just downloaded and installed  AsUnit 3.x and also XUL UI. I'm running Flex=
 2.0.
The work you guys have done is fantastic - the process of building and
running test cases has just got a lot easier!
I love the fact that when I create a new Class (and an associated
TestCase) via the XUL UI, my Test Suite gets updated automatically.

I wondering if  the new Event Model in AS3, with its bubble nature
will make it easier to test event based code?
The AsynchronousTestCase suggests that the procedure for testing event
based code is the same as before (i.e. overriding the run() method,
and then calling super.run() at a latter point)?

Also can you please explain the nature of Mock Object Test Cases - and
when we might choose to use one?

Cheers
Matt


On 11/11/05, Luke Bayes <lb...@gm...> wrote:
> Has anyone out there gotten AsUnit 3.x working?
>  How about XUL UI?
>
>  I'd like to get some feedback so that we can stamp them and push out an
> official release.
>
>  Any questions? Problems?
>
>  Is anyone willing to contribute a little work toward getting an installe=
r
> built for the XUL UI as an extension? It *should* work in
> Firefox/Netscape/Mozilla...
>
>
>  Thanks,
>
>
>  Luke Bayes
>  www.asunit.com
>
>

Re: [Asunit-users] AsUnit 3.x working?

[erixtekila <eri...@gm...>]

Hep !
I know you can't do anything for me ;)
Check this out !

> What OS are you running?
OSX 10.39

>
>  What build of XULRunner are you running?
version 1.9a1

>  Where url did you get XULRunner from?
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/xulrunner/nightly/latest-trunk/ 
xulrunner-1.9a1.en-US.mac.dmg

Scary isn't it ?!
Yes, I know :)

Thanks for your help.
-----------
erixtekila
http://blog.v-i-a.net/

Re: [Asunit-users] AsUnit 3.x working?

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

What OS are you running?

What build of XULRunner are you running? Where url did you get XULRunner
from?

Thanks,

Luke
www.asunit.org <http://www.asunit.org>

On 11/11/05, erixtekila <eri...@gm...> wrote:
>
> > Were you able to get XULRunner working?
> >
> Yes and no.
> I see your application.
> I can look at the UI.
> But I can't push any button.
> Seems to be a xulrunner issue.
>
>
> -----------
> erixtekila
> http://blog.v-i-a.net/
>
>
>
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Re: [Asunit-users] AsUnit 3.x working?

[erixtekila <eri...@gm...>]

>  Were you able to get XULRunner working?
>
Yes and no.
I see your application.
I can look at the UI.
But I can't push any button.
Seems to be a xulrunner issue.


-----------
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http://blog.v-i-a.net/

Re: [Asunit-users] Re: [osflash] AsUnit XULUI alpha released!

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

Thanks Paul!


Luke
www.asunit.org <http://www.asunit.org>

Re: [Asunit-users] AsUnit 3.x working?

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

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Re: [Asunit-users] AsUnit 3.x working?

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

Hey Paul,

I think your pulling the first build from your local cache There were some
major problems with the first day of attempts, where sourceforge was
corrupting the upload, but it should be resolved now.

Please let me know asap if you're still getting bad builds... I'll get you
one directly.


Thanks,


Luke
www.asunit.org <http://www.asunit.org>


On 11/11/05, Paul Robertson <pau...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone even been able to download AsUnit 3.0?
>
> I've been trying for several days, and I'm still getting a "corrupted
> or invalid archive" (the zip file can't be opened, either on Windows
> XP or OS X.
>
> I'm anxious to try it out, so if anyone has gotten a copy and can post
> until the sourceforge corrupted zip issue gets worked out, I'd
> appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul Robertson
>
> On 11/10/05, Luke Bayes <lb...@gm...> wrote:
> > Has anyone out there gotten AsUnit 3.x working?
> > How about XUL UI?
> >
> > I'd like to get some feedback so that we can stamp them and push out an
> > official release.
> >
> > Any questions? Problems?
> >
> > Is anyone willing to contribute a little work toward getting an
> installer
> > built for the XUL UI as an extension? It *should* work in
> > Firefox/Netscape/Mozilla...
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Luke Bayes
> > www.asunit.com <http://www.asunit.com>
> >
> >
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [Asunit-users] Re: [osflash] AsUnit XULUI alpha released!

[Paul R. <pau...@gm...>]

>  You have to:
>
>  1) Download and unzip xulrunner
>  2) Add the xulrunner.exe folder to your system Path variable
>  3) Download and unzip the AsUnit XUL UI
>  4) Using a command prompt, navigate to the AsUnit XUL UI folder
>  5) enter: xulrunner application.ini
>

Or if you're like me and you prefer shortcut icons to opening a
command line, you can do this:
1) Download and unzip xulrunner
2) Right-click on the xulrunner.exe and choose "create shortcut"
3) Copy the shortcut to wherever you like to keep your shortcuts
(start menu, desktop, shortcut bar, etc.)
4) Right-click on the shortcut and choose "Properties"
5) In the "Target" field, add this to the end of what's already there
"application.ini" (including quotes). For example, my "target" field
has this value (including all the quotes, and a space between the
quote after ".exe" and before "application.ini"):
"C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\xulrunner\xulrunner.exe" "application.ini"
6) In the "Start in" field, enter the full path to the AsUnit XUL UI
folder in quotes. For example, mine looks like this:
"C:\Program Files\AsUnit.xului.1.0.1.alpha\"

Any time you want to run the AsUnit XUL app, you can just launch it
using the shortcut.


Paul Robertson

Re: [Asunit-users] AsUnit 3.x working?

[Paul R. <pau...@gm...>]

Has anyone even been able to download AsUnit 3.0?

I've been trying for several days, and I'm still getting a "corrupted
or invalid archive" (the zip file can't be opened, either on Windows
XP or OS X.

I'm anxious to try it out, so if anyone has gotten a copy and can post
until the sourceforge corrupted zip issue gets worked out, I'd
appreciate it.

Thanks,
Paul Robertson

On 11/10/05, Luke Bayes <lb...@gm...> wrote:
> Has anyone out there gotten AsUnit 3.x working?
>  How about XUL UI?
>
>  I'd like to get some feedback so that we can stamp them and push out an
> official release.
>
>  Any questions? Problems?
>
>  Is anyone willing to contribute a little work toward getting an installe=
r
> built for the XUL UI as an extension? It *should* work in
> Firefox/Netscape/Mozilla...
>
>
>  Thanks,
>
>
>  Luke Bayes
>  www.asunit.com
>
>

Re: [Asunit-users] AsUnit 3.x working?

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

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Re: [Asunit-users] AsUnit 3.x working?

[erixtekila <eri...@gm...>]

Hi Luke,

>

> Has anyone out there gotten AsUnit 3.x working?
No clue for now=85

>  How about XUL UI?
I tried to use a prebuild version of xulrunner.
The window appear very well, but I can't get to have the focus on it.
So, no way to push the wizard button=85

The xul site say that there is a xulrunner.app somewhere, but at that=20
time, I had to launch the application.ini by a command line issue.
I'll investigate more soon.
Thanks for your effort on making an outside Flash IDE workflow.


Cheers.

-----------
erixtekila
http://blog.v-i-a.net/=

[Asunit-users] AsUnit 3.x working?

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

Has anyone out there gotten AsUnit 3.x working?
How about XUL UI?

I'd like to get some feedback so that we can stamp them and push out an
official release.

Any questions? Problems?

Is anyone willing to contribute a little work toward getting an installer
built for the XUL UI as an extension? It *should* work in
Firefox/Netscape/Mozilla...


Thanks,


Luke Bayes
www.asunit.com <http://www.asunit.com>

Re: [Asunit-users] Re: [osflash] AsUnit XULUI alpha released!

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

Hey Eric,

You have to:

1) Download and unzip xulrunner
2) Add the xulrunner.exe folder to your system Path variable
3) Download and unzip the AsUnit XUL UI
4) Using a command prompt, navigate to the AsUnit XUL UI folder
5) enter: xulrunner application.ini

This process will be *much* simpler in the final release - I'm really hopin=
g
that someone from the community will contribute a Firefox/Mozilla/Netscape
.xpi installer... (hint, hint)
;-)

As far as Eclipse integration goes - this UI is a standalone desktop
application that is built using the Mozilla cross platform framework. It
won't integrate with Eclipse per se. It *does* work very nicely "along side=
"
Eclipse. Flex Builder 2.0 actually updates the Project contents anytime a
file is created inside of the project folder. (sometimes you have to hit F5
in the navigation panel)

This UI will auto-create classes for AS 2.0 and AS 3.0. Because of the
incredible (and growing) variety of tools available for working with
ActionScript, we felt that it would make more sense to build a generic tool
to help folks manage class, test and suite creation than to invest too
heavily into any particular segment... With that said, we *have* considered
the possibility of creating some kind of key command or something from
Eclipse that will launch this ui, update the current project and open the
newly-created files. Definitely not in the short-term timeline though. If
anyone's interested in that functionality - please let us know!


Thanks,


Luke Bayes
www.asunit.com <http://www.asunit.com>

[Asunit-users] Re: [osflash] AsUnit XULUI alpha released!

[erixtekila <eri...@gm...>]

Hi Luke,


> As it turns out, I got a spare 1/2 hour this evening which was  
> combined with a miraculously simple fix for a problem that I thought  
> would take hours... With that - we're ready to announce the public  
> alpha for the AsUnit XUL UI!
>
>  This is a completely tool-agnostic desktop application built on top  
> of the Mozilla XUL platform. The primary purpose of this tool set is  
> to make it much easier to automatically create a wide variety of class  
> types, TestCases, and automatically manage Test Suites for both  
> ActionScript 2.0 AND ActionScript 3.0 applications!.
>
>  This tool is a much more robust replacement for what used to be our  
> .mxp-based Flash IDE extension. It works beautifully alongside any and  
> all ActionScript development tools including, Sepy, X-Code, Textpad,  
> ASDT, FDT, Flex Builder 2.0 alpha, Flex Builder 1.0/1.5, Flash MX  
> 2004, Flash 8 and MTASC!
>
>  You can download the build here:
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php? 
> group_id=108947&package_id=168969
>
>  If you run into any issues or have any questions, please subscribe to  
> our mailing list at:
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/asunit-users
>

Nice but how does that work ?
Should we build something with the build.sh ?
Use the XULRunner by invoquing application.ini


I'm pretty impatient to use this tool outside of the IDE.
BTW How could it be integrated with Eclipse for example ?

Thanks.

-----------
erixtekila
http://blog.v-i-a.net/

[Asunit-users] AsUnit needs you!

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

Hey Folks,

I just posted an announcement for the XUL UI and wanted to follow up with
this request...

We have put in countless hours of development designing, building and
supporting AsUnit over the past couple of years. We are looking for a coupl=
e
of motivated individuals to help us with the following tasks:

a) Build a Mozilla .XPI (Cross-Platform-Installer) for AsUnit XUL UI and ou=
r
source releases.
b) Write up some documentation / quick start guides for AsUnit 3.x and XUL
UI.

Of course the pay is really low, the hours are probably longer than you
think and there aren't any medical or pension benefits... But we will put
your name up in lights (of the lcd variety) and do our best to say nice
things about you as often as possible!

Please let us know if you're interested in helping with either of these
tasks!


Thanks,


Luke Bayes
www.asunit.org <http://www.asunit.org>

[Asunit-users] AsUnit XULUI alpha released!

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

As it turns out, I got a spare 1/2 hour this evening which was combined wit=
h
a miraculously simple fix for a problem that I thought would take hours...
With that - we're ready to announce the public alpha for the AsUnit XUL UI!

This is a completely tool-agnostic desktop application built on top of the
Mozilla XUL platform. The primary purpose of this tool set is to make it
much easier to automatically create a wide variety of class types,
TestCases, and automatically manage Test Suites for both ActionScript
2.0AND ActionScript
3.0 applications!.

This tool is a much more robust replacement for what used to be our
.mxp-based Flash IDE extension. It works beautifully alongside any and all
ActionScript development tools including, Sepy, X-Code, Textpad, ASDT, FDT,
Flex Builder 2.0 alpha, Flex Builder 1.0/1.5, Flash MX 2004, Flash 8 and
MTASC!

You can download the build here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3D108947&package_id=
=3D168969

If you run into any issues or have any questions, please subscribe to our
mailing list at:
http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/asunit-users


Thanks,


Luke Bayes
www.asunit.org <http://www.asunit.org>

[Asunit-users] Re: [Flashcoders] AsUnit 3.0 alpha released!

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

Hey Eric,

Yep - AsUnit 3.x (all versions) will support only ActionScript 3.0. We do
plan to continue iterating on AsUnit 2.x which will continue to support
ActionScript 2.0. I need to get a build posted for 2.0 next week. I'm
waiting for Ali to get back from vacation as he was working on that build
last.

Please take a look at the AsUnit.as file in the zip bundle to see how a roo=
t
test fixture should look now. Essentially, you just extend
asunit.textui.TestRunner from a DocumentRoot ActionScript file and call the
start method with a reference to a TestCase "class" (not instance).

Thanks for the update on your name - I've been wondering! I'll get the site
updated this week!

;-)


Hi Luke,
>
>
> Is there any place that states for the new features ?
> Is it an as3 version only ?
>
> Please let me know.
>
>

Re: [Asunit-users] Corrputed Zips

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

Thanks Bill,

I'll take a look at it tonight - I'm not sure what's going on with
sourceforge, but I think their ftp server is messing things up lately...

Thanks,

Luke

On 11/8/05, Bill Sanders <wds...@co...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> A funny thing happened. I downloaded ASUnit-2.7.alpha.zip from the mirror
> site (URL provided in the FlashCommm_chttyfig site and I got a message
> "corrputed file" when I attempted to open it. (I tried it from the NY and=
 VA
> mirrors). I then went to your site and when I clicked the Download, I
> noticed that when the mirrors showed up, the file size was different and =
it
> downloaded and opened fine.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> bill sanders | www.sandlight.com <http://www.sandlight.com> | bloomfield,
> ct | 860-242-2260
>
>

[Asunit-users] Fwd: [flexcoders] AsUnit 3.0 alpha released!

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

Hey Robert,

Here's a great article on Test-Driven Development:
http://junit.sourceforge.net/doc/testinfected/testing.htm

Essentially, AsUnit 3.x is built directly from the JUnit source code. It is
a pure ActionScript framework that allows you to construct test fixtures fo=
r
your applications. It lets you build each encapsulated element of an
application, test it, gaurantee it's functionality and then through
continuous integration, grow your application over time with confidence. If
at any point, you break some long-forgotten entity, your test fixture will
notify you immediately with exactly what is broken and why it broke. If you
later expose issues (bugs) that went originally untested, you can develop a
new test that exposes the behavior, then fix it and be assured that it won'=
t
be reintroduced.

This is an alternative approach to what's known as "Waterfall" development,
and without a clean unit test framework, it's very difficult to implement..=
.

Thanks for asking!


Luke Bayes
www.asunit.com <http://www.asunit.com>


On 11/7/05, Robert Thompson wrote:
>
> Luke, could you please explain just what AsUnit does that's so special?
>  thx
>