Re: [Yaml-core] No tag is no tag, period

[Oren Ben-K. <or...@be...>]

On Thursday 09 September 2004 09:28, T. Onoma wrote:
> On Thursday 09 September 2004 01:53 am, Oren Ben-Kiki wrote:
> > So, bottom line:
> > - '?' tags: +1.
> > - Having no resolution in the spec: -1.
> > Deal?
>
> I agree.

All right!!! we have a winner! Clark? Brian?

> With resolution, you mean spec-ing a standard, but I am free to
> transform any way I want if I otherwise wish, right?

You are free to do whatever you want... all the spec says is what must a 
conforming YAML processor do (and not do) to be considered "conforming" 
and what does it mean to "preserve the semantics of the document".

Applications, almost by definition, do something other than "preserve 
the semantics of their input". Their whole _point_ is to change the 
semantics. So, why should you be forbidden from transforming the 
document in any way? What, YSLT (== XSLT for YAML) isn't a valid 
application?

All the spec says is that if you apply you "whatever I want to do", 
please don't call it "loading a YAML document". Call it "changing a 
YAMNL document". Just like all the spec says that if you define your 
language which looks like YAML but using key order (say) fine, but 
don't call it YAML and don't call your documents "conforming YAML 
documents".

Again: we are just saying "what is a conforming YAML processor? What is 
a valid YAML document? What does it mean to load a YAML document?" We 
are not forbidding _anything_. We _want_ YAML to be used for 
transforming, mangling, and otherwise having tons of fun with the data.

*Have fun* :-)

	Oren Ben-Kiki