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RE: [Webware-discuss] RE: Configuring webkit in IS v6
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From: <jo...@cy...> - 2006-02-08 21:44:23
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Very true Chuck, distutils really don't work well for things like webservers. However I think we could do ourselves a big favor, if we used disutils to install webware in the usual python site-packages location, and install at least the makeappworkdir file to the scripts folder (what is currently done now with the intall.py file could simply be the post install script), then some concrete examples could help the newbee finish the integration with their favorite httpd. My only criticism of this framework (which btw is the best out there, i still don't know why cherrypy is so popular) is the install is confusing. if I get the time I'll work on a distutil setup or maybe an egg see if that works In any event I'll post to the group what I end up writing, it might be useful to someone else. Jose > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Webware-discuss] RE: Configuring webkit in IS v6 > From: Chuck Esterbrook <chu...@gm...> > Date: Wed, February 08, 2006 10:50 am > To: web...@li... > > Is there really a standard for Python *applications*? I know there's > distutils which works great for libraries, but afaik it doesn't really > address anything about hooking into web servers like IIS and Apache, > or whether or not ports are accessible, etc. I've also never found > distutils options for listing what was installed, uninstalling, > upgrading, etc. > > Whatever solution you guys come up with will be interesting to hear > about and to push back into the install doc for Webware. > > -Chuck > > > On 2/8/06, jo...@cy... <jo...@cy...> wrote: > > Dear Ben, > > I'm sorry to hear that your still having such difficulty getting webware > > installed and working. This really points to a larger issue that has > > plagued this particular framework since the beginning, mainly that > > instillation is not like standard python applications and it can be > > confusing for the newbe. Unfortunately or fortunately depending on how > > you think of it, this framework really rocks, it is quite versatile, > > offers very good HTTPD integration and makes little assumptions on your > > workflow, meaning you are free to create your webapplication in the way > > that suits you. Having said that If your still interesting in getting > > this going email me privately (jose at cybergalvez.com), I'm sure we > > can get it going. I'll write you a detailed step by set instruction > > set with examples later in the day and send it to you if your still > > interested. > > > > Jose > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > Subject: RE: [Webware-discuss] RE: Configuring webkit in IIS v6 > > > From: "Benjamin Jackson" <bja...@vv...> > > > Date: Wed, February 08, 2006 5:03 am > > > To: <web...@li...> > > > > > > I believe you were right about an improper setup, however, despite your > > > valiant attempts at helping me, I am doomed. After installing, I attempted > > > to use makeappworkdir.py and the result was nill... i.e. nothing happened. > > > I can get the server to run on only localhost:8085. This does nothing for > > > me. I appreciate your time in helping me, perhaps after a bit of heavy duty > > > reading about Python I will be better suited to tackle the task at a later > > > date. Thanks again for your help. > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: web...@li... > > > [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf Of Jose > > > Galvez > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:15 AM > > > To: web...@li... > > > Subject: Re: [Webware-discuss] RE: Configuring webkit in IIS v6 > > > > > > Sorry to be stuck on this point, but it still does not sound like you > > > have webware set up correctly. If this is redundant I apologize. > > > 1) did you user makeappworkdir.py to create a working folder? or are > > > you editing the config files within the base install? Either will work, > > > but it is recommended that you use makeappworkdir to create a working > > > folder. > > > 2) In any event the AppServer.config file in your configs folder should > > > be fairly generic. The Host setting needs to point to what ever IP or > > > host address you can use for the appserver to bind to your computer, > > > usually the loopback works just fine. The AdapterPort needs to be set > > > to a unique port to allow the appserver and your webserver to > > > communicate, the default is 8086, (EnableAdapter should be True) and if > > > you are only running a single instance of the appserver then thats just > > > fine. If however you need to run multiple instances of appserver (I > > > usually run two at home and one for each virtual server at work) then > > > you need to assign each webware instance its own adaptor port. For > > > testing I set EnableHTTP to True and then HTTPPort to what ever port you > > > want, the default is 8080, but any open port will do. > > > 3) The other config file to pay attention to is the Application.config > > > Contexts section. This is where you till webkit where to find the > > > contexts that it will be serving your files from. The default adds > > > Examples Testing and a few others. You can add your own contexts to > > > this section. Make sure one of them is the default section. > > > 4) Run the appserver.bat file, it should load and stay open. If not > > > then there is a problem either with one of your config files or a > > > context. The usual porblem with a context failing to load is a missing > > > __init__.py file. If it doesn't load post the error message. Assuming > > > that it does load you should be able to run > > > http://localhost:8080/Examples and see the standard Webkit examples > > > folder. And you should be able to use any url that gets to your > > > computer not just localhost at this point. You really need to be able > > > to see your default context at least with the builtin httpd before we > > > can figure out why it not working with IIS > > > Jose > > > > > > Benjamin Jackson wrote: > > > > Thanks, > > > > I have managed to get the webkit to work on the localhost port 8085. > > > That's > > > > just the problem, I cannot use my website. I did fiddle with the config > > > and > > > > attempted to insert my domain name instead of localhost but the batch file > > > > failed to load. I do appreciate your interest in the subject. > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: web...@li... > > > > [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf Of Jose > > > > Galvez > > > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:51 PM > > > > To: web...@li... > > > > Subject: Re: [Webware-discuss] RE: Configuring webkit in IIS v6 > > > > > > > > Hmm, I'll see if I can find an IIS install and play with it a bit, I > > > > might be able to offer something a little more concrete once I've looked > > > > at it more closely. Just to make sure you can you use the built in > > > > webserver to make sure that your webware install and contexts are > > > > working correctly? The default for the built in web server is port 8080 > > > > so assuming that its still turned on (which is it by default) you should > > > > be albe to double check your install by going to http://localhost:8080 > > > > and you should see your default context, I'll see what I can come up > > > > with for better instructions for IIS > > > > Jose > > > > > > > > > > > > Benjamin Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > >> Thanks for your response! I have tried configuring wkcgi.exe in the > > > >> > > > > server > > > > > > > >> extesions, as well as with files of extension .psp. Unfortunately, this > > > >> > > > > did > > > > > > > >> not work, although I am no expert. I have also tried with extention .py > > > >> > > > > but > > > > > > > >> all I get is a webpage that is in terminal load and never resolves. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks again, > > > >> Ben > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: web...@li... > > > >> [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf Of > > > >> jo...@cy... > > > >> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:54 PM > > > >> To: web...@li... > > > >> Cc: web...@li... > > > >> Subject: RE: [Webware-discuss] RE: Configuring webkit in IIS v6 > > > >> > > > >> I've never set it up on IIS before, but having said that, I don't think > > > >> that the IIS ISAP connector is currently working so I would guess you > > > >> are left with the CGI configuration opetions. There should be a > > > >> wkcgi.exe file in your webware/webkit/adaptors/wkcgi folder. You want > > > >> to set that up to run under IIS. Then to make it all work your URLs > > > >> wouls look something like http://basurl/wkcig.exe/mycontext/myfile.py > > > >> or something like that. Hope this helps > > > >> Jose > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> -------- Original Message -------- > > > >>> Subject: [Webware-discuss] RE: Configuring webkit in IIS v6 > > > >>> From: "Benjamin Jackson" <bja...@vv...> > > > >>> Date: Sun, February 05, 2006 9:26 pm > > > >>> To: <web...@li...> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> I am new to webware. I would like to configure webkit to work within > > > >>> > > > > IIS > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> v6. I am running Windows Server 2003. I have gotten webkit to work fine > > > >> > > > > on > > > > > > > >> localhost and port 8085, however, I cannot get it to work with my domain > > > >> name. Does anyone feel like providing me step-by-step instructions on > > > how > > > >> to configure this? Otherwise, a helpful nudge in the right direction > > > >> > > > > would > > > > > > > >> be appreciated. Thanks, Ben > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > > > >> > > > > files > > > > > > > >> for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > > > >> searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > > > >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Webware-discuss mailing list > > > >> Web...@li... > > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > > > >> > > > > files > > > > > > > >> for problems? Stop! 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