Re: [Webware-discuss] Mac OS X compatibility report

[Tracy S. R. <tr...@re...>]

Thought I'd chime in on the MacOS X front:  I'm using a Mac for 
production and have hardly had any problems (I think I had trouble 
compiling mod_webkit back when Webware was at 0.6, but have had not 
troubles since then.)  In addition to the list of applications Edmund 
listed below, I have also successfully compiled and installed CVS, 
MySQL, Numeric (NumPy), roundup, ZODB and Jython.

My only complaint is that it is very hard develop any GUI's with python 
on MacOS X.  Building applets with Jython works fine but most GUI 
projects for Python I've seen are using Tkinter (which is non-existent 
on the unix side of Mac) or XWindows (which is *very* buggy).

--Tracy

On Saturday, April 12, 2003, at 11:13 PM, Edmund Lian wrote:

> Just thought I'd let people know that I've tested Webware under Mac OS 
> X. A
> quick report follows...
>
> I picked up an iBook to use while on a trip. I was going to 
> repartition it
> and install Debian, but decided to try porting everything to run under 
> Mac
> OS X first, so that I would not lose the power management, etc.
>
> Mac OS X comes with Python 2.2 and Apache 1.3.27 installed. The 
> developer
> environment (based heavily on GNU tools) is a free download. The 
> following
> compile and install cleanly:
>
> eGenix mxDateTime
> Cheetah
> FunFormKit
> Webware 0.8 (from tarball--CVS version breaks my code, for whatever 
> reason)
> pyPgSQL
> PostgreSQL
> Subversion client
>
> psycopg did not compile, due to some problem with the make files.
>
> The iBook, running with just 128 Mb of RAM and an 800 MHz G3 
> processor, was
> amazingly robust. The scheduling algorithm and VM management in the 
> kernel
> is clearly superior to Linux 2.4. I had it compiling while I was
> downloading and unpacking source, generally screwing around with the
> machine, and also while having several active ssh sessions with it 
> over the
> LAN. There were never any stalls like I get with my 1 GHz PIII with 
> 512 Mb
> RAM and 10-drive Mylex-based RAID 10 array server.
>
> Battery life, under heavy load, is amazing--more than 3 hours per 
> battery.
> Under lighter loads, I'm getting 4-5 hours per battery.
>
> The only problems I've had are with the directory structure and daemon
> control system. The directory structure and run control system in Max 
> OS X
> is significantly different from Debian (which is based on FHS). Took 
> quite
> awhile to get oriented, and I'm still trying to find all the pieces.
>
> Interestingly enough, Apple thought to do little but nice things like 
> run
> an NTP server on every Mac OS X machine, and set up an NTP server at
> apple.com just for this. So every Mac keeps very accurate time!
>
> Overall, I'm very impressed. I last used a Mac when the OS was at 
> v6.0.8,
> and this is clearly not the same. I've not seen this kind of 
> robustness and
> carefully UI/infrastructure design from Redmond, ever. I can see why 
> Unix
> some developers are saying that the Mac is a good 
> development/production
> machine.
>
> ...Edmund.
>
>
>
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