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From: Pratik K A. <pra...@gm...> - 2009-10-06 01:17:10
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Hi... I was selected for GonGtonG project. I'd like to shift to TRIAGE project since the project is kinda stagnated and we had minimal discussion on it... Currently, I'm trying to deploy the Unity stuff done by Mukund and Rajkumar on lift/tomcat. -- thanks for your time, Pratik K Anand |
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From: rajkumar g. <goe...@gm...> - 2009-10-04 13:03:43
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HI All,I was selected for GonGtonG project and I've given GonGtonG project as my final year project in the college.Mukund and me also have completed a small prototype of Unity.Because we had very minimal discussion about the gongtong during the initial stages and the days are fast going by I request to be reallocated to Triage project so that I could submit it as my Final year project.I've already requested about the change of the project in my college and they've agreed . Regards, Rajkumar Goel www.twitter.com/rajkumargoel www.latestfever.blogspot.com |
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From: Namita I. <na...@tw...> - 2009-09-11 06:14:07
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Hi All, The next step for the prototype completion would be to deploy it in Lift framework. Please setup Lift framework together with Maven/Tomcat + Java to complete the work. It would be nice to complete and present your work during Twincling Connect on Oct 3. Namita On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Gaurav Chaudhary < ga...@ga...> wrote: > Hi i have designed a layout for unity-gongtong interface and posted the > details on gongtong forum. Please go through the layout and give your > suggestions and feedback so we can refine the design and proceed further. > Also i request gontong team to arrange and IRC meet so we can get the > updates for the team and decide our further workflow. > > -- > Thanks > > Gaurav > > Blog : www.gauravchaudhary.com > Twitter : www.twitter.com/gauravdott > > > |
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From: Gaurav C. <ga...@ga...> - 2009-09-07 17:40:13
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Hi i have designed a layout for unity-gongtong interface and posted the details on gongtong forum. Please go through the layout and give your suggestions and feedback so we can refine the design and proceed further. Also i request gontong team to arrange and IRC meet so we can get the updates for the team and decide our further workflow. -- Thanks Gaurav Blog : www.gauravchaudhary.com Twitter : www.twitter.com/gauravdott |
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From: S. K. <sai...@tw...> - 2009-09-02 06:23:49
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Hi Vijaya Bhaskar: Sanjeeb Das Gupta is the resource person for Gongtong and it was/is his idea. He can help you understand the business perspective of Gongtong. Sanjeeb is subscribed to this mailing list and alternatively you can drop him an email at sa...@tw... thanks Saifi. |
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From: S. K. <sai...@tw...> - 2009-09-02 06:21:34
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> -------Original Message------- > From: Vijaya Bhaskar Reddy Yannam <yvb...@gm...> > Subject: [gongtong] Hello > Sent: 01 Sep '09 08:57 > > Hi All, > > > I am also joining in this project. I went through mailing lists and read > interesting discussions. Just started exploring more on this. This mail is > more on to say hi to all. > > > I hope you all saw dimdim, webex, netmeeting.. and also what ( and more > important thing is how :) ) it provides > > > Regards, Vijaya Bhaskar > Hi Vijaya Bhaskar: A hearty welcome to you ! All Twincling projects are completely open. One can initiate any activity, any focus area or any work or lead any part and there is "no" boss ! As you are an experienced software professional, you'd be in a position to get started with discussions over email. Please feel free to discuss, share, experiment, interact or create anything. kind regards Saifi. |
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From: Vijaya B. R. Y. <yvb...@gm...> - 2009-09-01 03:28:01
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Hi All, I am also joining in this project. I went through mailing lists and read interesting discussions. Just started exploring more on this. This mail is more on to say hi to all. I hope you all saw dimdim, webex, netmeeting.. and also what ( and more important thing is how :) ) it provides Regards, Vijaya Bhaskar |
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From: rajkumar g. <goe...@gm...> - 2009-07-10 11:32:50
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HI nIkhil
That was cool way to explain it.
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM, rajkumar goel <goe...@gm...>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> HI,
>> object lists{
>> def main(args:Array[String]){
>> val nums=List(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0)
>> val fruits=List("Apple","Banana","Cheekoo","Jack
>> Fruit","Grapes","Mango","Orange","Papaya")
>> println(nums)
>> println((nums.tail).tail)
>> println(fruits.head)
>> println(fruits.tail)
>> println(fruits)
>> }
>> }
>> HOW TO WRITE ALL PRINTLN 'S IN ONE LINE
>>
>> i AM GETTING ERROR IF I WRITE "+" IN BETWEEN so how do we do that in scala
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Rajkumar Goel
>> www.twitter.com/rajkumargoel
>> www.latestfever.blogspot.com
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:08:55 +0530
>> From: nikhil <ni...@gm...>
>> Subject: Re: [gongtong] Println
>> To: twi...@li...
>> Message-ID:
>> <1f1...@ma...>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi rkg,
>>
>> I dont know abt an error but I do get a warning from compiler, if I use
>> '+',
>> as shown below, but the
>> program still runs( with wrong o/p)
>>
>> "warning: there were deprecation warnings; re-run with -deprecation for
>> details
>> one warning found"
>>
>> Now,
>> 'println' requires its args to be of type String, if not, it internally
>> converts them into String,
>> by using some form of toString method.
>> This works when u provide a single arg like ex: println(nums)
>>
>> But when u try to print the concatenated o/p using '+' like for example
>> ex: println( nums + nums.tail)
>> you are actually invoking the method called '+' defined for Lists and NOT
>> String.
>>
>> The '+' method(for List) adds an element to the end of the list, instead
>> of
>> forming a String
>> containing the 2 lists as you intended.
>>
>> If you want to use '+', one possible solution is to make sure that the
>> args
>> are Strings themselves
>> before they invoke the '+' method.
>>
>> ex: println("" + nums + nums.tail)
>>
>> Adding a empty String, "", at the beginning makes sure that '+' is invoked
>> for String like
>> "".+(nums). The resulting String later invokes '+' again on the next arg.
>>
>> Since this method just seems to be some kind of hack, if anyone is aware
>> of
>> a proper
>> way to do it, please let me know.
>>
>> Regards
>> Nikhil
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:00 PM, rajkumar goel <goe...@gm...
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > HI,
>> > object lists{
>> > def main(args:Array[String]){
>> > val nums=List(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0)
>> > val fruits=List("Apple","Banana","Cheekoo","Jack
>> > Fruit","Grapes","Mango","Orange","Papaya")
>> > println(nums)
>> > println((nums.tail).tail)
>> > println(fruits.head)
>> > println(fruits.tail)
>> > println(fruits)
>> > }
>> > }
>> > HOW TO WRITE ALL PRINTLN 'S IN ONE LINE
>> >
>> > i AM GETTING ERROR IF I WRITE "+" IN BETWEEN so how do we do that in
>> scala
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Rajkumar Goel
>> > www.twitter.com/rajkumargoel
>> > www.latestfever.blogspot.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> have
>> > the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full
>> prize
>> > details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge
>> > _______________________________________________
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>
> HI NIkhil,
> I figured out a way to do it....
> We can call mkString(delimeter)/* make string */method on each Lists and
> then concatenate it.
> I Tried with Cons :: operator it also gives correct out(instead of + I used
> cons)
> and we can append all and then print using the append operator.
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Rajkumar Goel
> www.twitter.com/rajkumargoel
> www.latestfever.blogspot.com
>
>
--
Regards,
Rajkumar Goel
www.twitter.com/rajkumargoel
www.latestfever.blogspot.com
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From: rajkumar g. <goe...@gm...> - 2009-07-10 11:32:34
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> HI,
> object lists{
> def main(args:Array[String]){
> val nums=List(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0)
> val fruits=List("Apple","Banana","Cheekoo","Jack
> Fruit","Grapes","Mango","Orange","Papaya")
> println(nums)
> println((nums.tail).tail)
> println(fruits.head)
> println(fruits.tail)
> println(fruits)
> }
> }
> HOW TO WRITE ALL PRINTLN 'S IN ONE LINE
>
> i AM GETTING ERROR IF I WRITE "+" IN BETWEEN so how do we do that in scala
>
> --
> Regards,
> Rajkumar Goel
> www.twitter.com/rajkumargoel
> www.latestfever.blogspot.com
> -------------- next part --------------
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:08:55 +0530
> From: nikhil <ni...@gm...>
> Subject: Re: [gongtong] Println
> To: twi...@li...
> Message-ID:
> <1f1...@ma...>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi rkg,
>
> I dont know abt an error but I do get a warning from compiler, if I use
> '+',
> as shown below, but the
> program still runs( with wrong o/p)
>
> "warning: there were deprecation warnings; re-run with -deprecation for
> details
> one warning found"
>
> Now,
> 'println' requires its args to be of type String, if not, it internally
> converts them into String,
> by using some form of toString method.
> This works when u provide a single arg like ex: println(nums)
>
> But when u try to print the concatenated o/p using '+' like for example
> ex: println( nums + nums.tail)
> you are actually invoking the method called '+' defined for Lists and NOT
> String.
>
> The '+' method(for List) adds an element to the end of the list, instead of
> forming a String
> containing the 2 lists as you intended.
>
> If you want to use '+', one possible solution is to make sure that the args
> are Strings themselves
> before they invoke the '+' method.
>
> ex: println("" + nums + nums.tail)
>
> Adding a empty String, "", at the beginning makes sure that '+' is invoked
> for String like
> "".+(nums). The resulting String later invokes '+' again on the next arg.
>
> Since this method just seems to be some kind of hack, if anyone is aware of
> a proper
> way to do it, please let me know.
>
> Regards
> Nikhil
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:00 PM, rajkumar goel <goe...@gm...
> >wrote:
>
> > HI,
> > object lists{
> > def main(args:Array[String]){
> > val nums=List(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0)
> > val fruits=List("Apple","Banana","Cheekoo","Jack
> > Fruit","Grapes","Mango","Orange","Papaya")
> > println(nums)
> > println((nums.tail).tail)
> > println(fruits.head)
> > println(fruits.tail)
> > println(fruits)
> > }
> > }
> > HOW TO WRITE ALL PRINTLN 'S IN ONE LINE
> >
> > i AM GETTING ERROR IF I WRITE "+" IN BETWEEN so how do we do that in
> scala
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Rajkumar Goel
> > www.twitter.com/rajkumargoel
> > www.latestfever.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge
> > This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! For a limited time,
> > vendors submitting new applications to BlackBerry App World(TM) will have
> > the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full
> prize
> > details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge
> > _______________________________________________
> > twincling-gongtong mailing list
> > twi...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/twincling-gongtong
> >
> >
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>
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> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge
> This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! For a limited time,
> vendors submitting new applications to BlackBerry App World(TM) will have
> the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full prize
> details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> twincling-gongtong mailing list
> twi...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/twincling-gongtong
>
>
> End of twincling-gongtong Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1
> ************************************************
>
HI NIkhil,
I figured out a way to do it....
We can call mkString(delimeter)/* make string */method on each Lists and
then concatenate it.
I Tried with Cons :: operator it also gives correct out(instead of + I used
cons)
and we can append all and then print using the append operator.
--
Regards,
Rajkumar Goel
www.twitter.com/rajkumargoel
www.latestfever.blogspot.com
|
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From: nikhil <ni...@gm...> - 2009-07-10 09:39:26
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Hi rkg,
I dont know abt an error but I do get a warning from compiler, if I use '+',
as shown below, but the
program still runs( with wrong o/p)
"warning: there were deprecation warnings; re-run with -deprecation for
details
one warning found"
Now,
'println' requires its args to be of type String, if not, it internally
converts them into String,
by using some form of toString method.
This works when u provide a single arg like ex: println(nums)
But when u try to print the concatenated o/p using '+' like for example
ex: println( nums + nums.tail)
you are actually invoking the method called '+' defined for Lists and NOT
String.
The '+' method(for List) adds an element to the end of the list, instead of
forming a String
containing the 2 lists as you intended.
If you want to use '+', one possible solution is to make sure that the args
are Strings themselves
before they invoke the '+' method.
ex: println("" + nums + nums.tail)
Adding a empty String, "", at the beginning makes sure that '+' is invoked
for String like
"".+(nums). The resulting String later invokes '+' again on the next arg.
Since this method just seems to be some kind of hack, if anyone is aware of
a proper
way to do it, please let me know.
Regards
Nikhil
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:00 PM, rajkumar goel <goe...@gm...>wrote:
> HI,
> object lists{
> def main(args:Array[String]){
> val nums=List(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0)
> val fruits=List("Apple","Banana","Cheekoo","Jack
> Fruit","Grapes","Mango","Orange","Papaya")
> println(nums)
> println((nums.tail).tail)
> println(fruits.head)
> println(fruits.tail)
> println(fruits)
> }
> }
> HOW TO WRITE ALL PRINTLN 'S IN ONE LINE
>
> i AM GETTING ERROR IF I WRITE "+" IN BETWEEN so how do we do that in scala
>
> --
> Regards,
> Rajkumar Goel
> www.twitter.com/rajkumargoel
> www.latestfever.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge
> This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! For a limited time,
> vendors submitting new applications to BlackBerry App World(TM) will have
> the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full prize
> details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge
> _______________________________________________
> twincling-gongtong mailing list
> twi...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/twincling-gongtong
>
>
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From: rajkumar g. <goe...@gm...> - 2009-07-10 07:30:21
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HI,
object lists{
def main(args:Array[String]){
val nums=List(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0)
val fruits=List("Apple","Banana","Cheekoo","Jack
Fruit","Grapes","Mango","Orange","Papaya")
println(nums)
println((nums.tail).tail)
println(fruits.head)
println(fruits.tail)
println(fruits)
}
}
HOW TO WRITE ALL PRINTLN 'S IN ONE LINE
i AM GETTING ERROR IF I WRITE "+" IN BETWEEN so how do we do that in scala
--
Regards,
Rajkumar Goel
www.twitter.com/rajkumargoel
www.latestfever.blogspot.com
|
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From: nikhil <ni...@gm...> - 2009-07-07 15:38:53
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Hi All, There was a transformer damaged near Saifi's house. And chances of fixing it by 9 PM is slim. So he will be able to join today's IRC, only if power is restored. If not, its 10 AM tomorrow morning. Regards Nikhil |
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From: Gaurav C. <ga...@ga...> - 2009-06-20 14:11:39
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> > > > Mukund is trying to explain what is Audit trail & how it works ! > > An audit trail is like a 'bank passbook', every transaction is > endorsed. Even if there is a wrong entry (eg. incorrect debit or > credit), there is an additional entry made to tally the balance. > > Does that help ? > > > thanks > Saifi. > > Thanks i gained a little insight on yesterday's IRC session -- Thanks Gaurav |
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From: Saifi K. <sai...@tw...> - 2009-06-20 10:05:00
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Gaurav Chaudhary wrote: > > > > > > *Audit Trail* > > > > Audit Trail is used to capture any event that falls through the > > workflow.(Consider the case where a user registers at a website with fake id > > then using Audit Trail we capture this event and block the > > registration).Audit Trail is a component that overlaps between the Triage > > and GongTong thus filling the significant gap between them.Auditor is the > > admin for the Audit Trail component. So if there are any short comings or > > problems that arise in a work flow the auditor checks it. > > >> ... >> ... >> ... > > > > sorry but ddn't get what you are trying to say? > > > -- > Thanks > Gaurav > Mukund is trying to explain what is Audit trail & how it works ! An audit trail is like a 'bank passbook', every transaction is endorsed. Even if there is a wrong entry (eg. incorrect debit or credit), there is an additional entry made to tally the balance. Does that help ? thanks Saifi. |
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From: Gaurav C. <ga...@ga...> - 2009-06-19 16:39:21
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>
>
> *Audit Trail*
>
> Audit Trail is used to capture any event that falls through the
> workflow.(Consider the case where a user registers at a website with fake id
> then using Audit Trail we capture this event and block the
> registration).Audit Trail is a component that overlaps between the Triage
> and GongTong thus filling the significant gap between them.Auditor is the
> admin for the Audit Trail component. So if there are any short comings or
> problems that arise in a work flow the auditor checks it.
>
> Here goes an example by saifi which illustrates the necessity of Audit
> Trail
>
>
> Here is an illustrative case:
> . user visits the website
> . user registers on the site
> . user registration is blocked
> . administrator reviews the registration request
> . admin detects that the email address is actually spam.
> . admin deletes the user account.
> Now: . from the pov(point of view) of system, the given user 'abcxd' does
> not exist.
> . from the pov of auditor, a user with userid 'abcxd' indeed registered,
> but was deleted.
>
> The significant overlap here like in our case (Triage and GongTong) is
> "audit trail" component !
>
> the gaps in the above workflow
>
> each of the steps enumerated above in the 'illustrative case' has some
> fields associated.
> and some 'operation' associated.
> and some 'role' associated.
> and some 'module' associate'
> so fieldType can be { field, operation, role, module }
> each auditLine is date-time-event-fieldType-value0-value1 (something along
> these lines).
> Hence, the gap occurs when given a time and event for a fieldType, the
> traceability between value0 and value1 is non-existent !
>
> The same case can also be visualized for Triage and GongTong.Thus,Audit
> Trail will act as a component to bridge the gap in the workflows of both the
> project.
>
sorry but ddn't get what you are trying to say?
--
Thanks
Gaurav
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From: Mukund D. <muk...@gm...> - 2009-06-19 15:51:19
|
Hi All,
*Audit Trail*
Audit Trail is used to capture any event that falls through the
workflow.(Consider the case where a user registers at a website with fake id
then using Audit Trail we capture this event and block the
registration).Audit Trail is a component that overlaps between the Triage
and GongTong thus filling the significant gap between them.Auditor is the
admin for the Audit Trail component. So if there are any short comings or
problems that arise in a work flow the auditor checks it.
Here goes an example by saifi which illustrates the necessity of Audit Trail
Here is an illustrative case:
. user visits the website
. user registers on the site
. user registration is blocked
. administrator reviews the registration request
. admin detects that the email address is actually spam.
. admin deletes the user account.
Now: . from the pov(point of view) of system, the given user 'abcxd' does
not exist.
. from the pov of auditor, a user with userid 'abcxd' indeed registered, but
was deleted.
The significant overlap here like in our case (Triage and GongTong) is
"audit trail" component !
the gaps in the above workflow
each of the steps enumerated above in the 'illustrative case' has some
fields associated.
and some 'operation' associated.
and some 'role' associated.
and some 'module' associate'
so fieldType can be { field, operation, role, module }
each auditLine is date-time-event-fieldType-value0-value1 (something along
these lines).
Hence, the gap occurs when given a time and event for a fieldType, the
traceability between value0 and value1 is non-existent !
The same case can also be visualized for Triage and GongTong.Thus,Audit
Trail will act as a component to bridge the gap in the workflows of both the
project.
thanks,
SMS
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From: nikhil <ni...@gm...> - 2009-06-10 17:02:13
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Now talking on #twincling-gongtong <pratikanand> nothing gr8...just doing basics...what about u? <nik_m> hi guys saifi (n=saifi@59.92.151.13) has joined #twincling-gongtong <rajkumar> hi all <saifi> RKG namaste /\ <saifi> Hi Ammar. <rajkumar> Saifi Namaste Ji Namaste :-) <saifi> Hey Nikhil... the star trek guy. <nik_m> hi saifi... <ammarkantawala> hi sir <saifi> ammar sir <ammarkantawala> any new updates <saifi> about ? <ammarkantawala> scala and gongtong anirudhr1989 (n=anirudh@122.167.243.93) has joined #twincling-gongtong <saifi> There is a Scala TSM on Sat,June 13. anushree (i=5660e555@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-82dfa622f1f128ac) has joined #twincling-gongtong <ammarkantawala> sir i am having my dinner so can i join after sometime <anirudhr1989> Hi. <saifi> what are you having for dinner sir ? <anushree> hi <ammarkantawala> Mango juice,Veg Pulav <ammarkantawala> hi all <ammarkantawala> what is TSM <nik_m> hi folks <rajkumar> HI alll :-) <ammarkantawala> hi <saifi> TSM - Twincling Saturday Meet. <ammarkantawala> oh <anushree> did i miss much? <anirudhr1989> That is only in Hyderabad, innit? <ammarkantawala> ok sir got it <ammarkantawala> no <saifi> yes <saifi> Mango Pulva, and Veg Juice :-) <anushree> <rajkumar> hey...! <anirudhr1989> There _is_ a Mango Pulav in a restaurant in Basavanagudi. <saifi> anirudh for example http://picasaweb.google.com/twincling/RubyOnRailsHyderabad#5320392613313866082 <rajkumar> yes.........!! <saifi> *Pulav <saifi> Nikhil you wrote a innovative writeup on gongtong ! <nik_m> ya... thx.. <anirudhr1989> Yeah. I liked it a lot. <saifi> sorry i forgot to write a reply ... too many mails in my mailbox eh... anushree has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") <saifi> How is the idea of starting to do UI mockups ? <nik_m> hey, i havent chked the mailin list yet... but do u guys came across any, scala plugin for eclipse, problem ? anushree (i=5660e258@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e0407379533b97d4) has joined #twincling-gongtong <saifi> Nikhil what was the problem ? <nik_m> eclipse crashes when i try to write anything in the ditor at all ammarkantawala has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") <nik_m> i chked forums... they have some workarounds.. but never worked for me <nik_m> editor* <pratikanand> UI mockups @ what level - simple or quick or advanced? <saifi> eclipse version ? <nik_m> 3.4 i think <nik_m> lemme check <nik_m> 3.4.2 anushree has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [pratikanand] (n=pratik@59.165.92.147): Pratik K Anand [pratikanand] #twincling-gongtong #twincling [pratikanand] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/ [pratikanand] is identified to services [pratikanand] is signed on as account pratikanand [pratikanand] idle 00:04:14, signon: Wed Jun 10 20:57:45 [pratikanand] End of WHOIS list. anushree (i=5660e258@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-55a193dd7210ef60) has joined #twincling-gongtong <saifi> lets spend sometime discussing this very important issue. <saifi> given the queries that came in, made me realize that i need to look at 'eclipse' closey <anushree> i seem to be having problem with my connection to freenode <saifi> oh <saifi> Version: 3.4.2 <saifi> Build id: M20090211-1700 <anushree> may i know what the important issue is? <saifi> is what i downloaded. <nik_m> ya.. <saifi> Taking a close look at Eclipse. <saifi> Here are some points that may come as a surprise <saifi> 0. whatever OS you use, don't install Eclipse <saifi> 1. always download the Eclipse classic of 150+ MB in tar.gz or .zip format <saifi> 2. do a separate installation of Sun JDK 1.6.x <nik_m> ya.. <nik_m> did that <rajkumar> ok <saifi> 3. extract the eclipse archive into a directory, whose directory name has no spaces <saifi> eg. Johnny Gaddar <rajkumar> ok <saifi> call it jg <saifi> we can avoid this ~1 or ~2 business in the names <saifi> many linux distro creators are such idiots that they try to outsmart the upstream project guys. <saifi> in such case, run Eclipse from the command line as <saifi> eclipse -vm `java-config --java` <saifi> thats the correct way to launch it. <saifi> I wish Triage folks were here as well. <nik_m> eclipse launches corretly and works for java code compilation... the problem seems to be with scala plugin <saifi> so for that, please see http://picasaweb.google.com/twincling/Screenshots# <rajkumar> its showing java-config command not found! <saifi> i haven't compiled Scala code in Eclipse as yet this evening. i even don't know how to use an IDE, forget Eclipse. <saifi> so i have some learning to do in this case. <saifi> find IDEs too suffocating. <saifi> RKG that command is for Gentoo and all its deriviatives. <saifi> i'm sure there will some such command also for the great UTUs of the world. anushree has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") <nik_m> theauto installation of plugin doesnt go ver well for me.. i installed it manually <nik_m> the auto* <saifi> you just need to specify the URL to the Scala plugin. anushree (i=5660e258@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9a42440a247eb2ba) has joined #twincling-gongtong <nik_m> ya.. i tried that... the url doesnt work... either firewall is blocking or iy just doesnt work <saifi> guys i tried it just now it works. <saifi> i'm facing another issue right now. <saifi> the wonderful editor is asking me a question : "What kind of perspective you want ?" <saifi> what answer do i give for that ? <nik_m> u have to select whic ever lang u want to program into <pratikanand> SCALA <nik_m> default java i think <nik_m> if u have scala installed select scala anushree1 (n=anu...@de...) has joined #twincling-gongtong anushree has quit (Client Quit) <saifi> Nikhil looks like it did all the installation of Scala to the latest version 2.7.5 by itself. <nik_m> cool... <saifi> i just clicked OK anushree1 has quit (Client Quit) <nik_m> the problem i am facing is shown here... http://lampsvn.epfl.ch/trac/scala/ticket/1933 <nik_m> i face the same errors as he's facing <saifi> Nikhil ... Wahay Guru di iccha hain ... ap saccha 'vi' ka 'vi'char karay <nik_m> ammarkantawala (i=783c038b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8ff0c39683c9f115) has joined #twincling-gongtong <saifi> Burp Burp Burp ... welcome Ammar sir ji. <saifi> <saifi> Nikhil, do one thing. <nik_m> saifi i dint understand the solution he suggested.... can u figure out anything anushree (n=anu...@de...) has joined #twincling-gongtong <saifi> shutdown the eclipse <saifi> rm -rf .eclipse in the home directory <saifi> rm -rf the workspace <saifi> done ? <nik_m> ahh.. wait <ammarkantawala> anything discussed <saifi> if done, then start eclipse 3.4.2 ganymade <saifi> Ammar sir, lots ... <nik_m> k <rajkumar> about eclipse only. <pratikanand> btw scala ka plugin works well with 3.4.2 ver f it... <nik_m> pratik... u r facing no probs with 3.4.2 ? <ammarkantawala> does scala pluging works with netbeans <saifi> Yes Ammar sir. <saifi> http://www.scala-lang.org/node/91#ide_plugins <anushree> are we going to be using a uniform ide for scala? <pratikanand> Nikhil, no <saifi> if its not working, then use Notepad++ (windows) and vi (UNIX). <saifi> all of us will follow "uniform coding standards" ! <nik_m> i am using the scala interpreter from scala-lang.org <saifi> done ? <nik_m> ya <saifi> Nikhil could you clean up your Eclipse installation ? <saifi> Startup your Eclipse then <nik_m> yes.. i did that <saifi> Goto the plugins stuff and then add the URL as <saifi> http://www.scala-lang.org/scala-eclipse-plugin <saifi> Anushree, did i answer your question ? <anushree> can you explain that please <nik_m> k.. wait its downloading <saifi> using the same IDE is like all of us eating identical food on Su, Tu, Th or buying the identical car or making some such choice. <saifi> apart from behavioural issue there is a bigger risk issue. <ammarkantawala> use netbeans instead of eclipse <saifi> Bug in Eclipse impacts the devloper <saifi> or bug in netbeans Scala plugin impacts the developer. <saifi> What is our end goal ? <ammarkantawala> netbeans interface is much better and easy to code also developer friendly <saifi> write terrific, maintenanable code for gongtong, triage, dmod etc. <ammarkantawala> All of us should use the same IDE <saifi> ammar sir. <ammarkantawala> yes <saifi> The goal is SOURCE CODE <saifi> not IDE. <anushree> so using different ides will benefit us in the long run? <saifi> writing "uniform coding standard" compliant source will benefit us in the long run ! <ammarkantawala> yeh sir i know i was referring to previous issue <saifi> *source code <anushree> alright <anushree> got that <saifi> what do you think ? <ammarkantawala> yeh sir it's true <saifi> i don't want to enforce 'vi' on anybody. <saifi> use what you wish. be free to make your choice. we still get to the goal. <anushree> ok <ammarkantawala> ok sir got it <nik_m> sry abt talking abt eclipse for so long..i will figure something out... <nik_m> we should move on... saifi u were talking abt UI mockups ? <saifi> not at all Nikhil. <saifi> the investment we make right now is in the hope that tomorrow when some newbie comes you guys can share the same perspective with him/her and help trouble shoot the stuff ! <ammarkantawala> ok <rajkumar> hmm <rajkumar> what about the UI MOCKUPS <anushree> what are UI mockups? <pratikanand> user interface mockups <rajkumar> simple three tier applications ???is that so saifi <ammarkantawala> yeh but can any one explain <rajkumar> ? <saifi> "coding convention" comes from http://www.twincling.org/node/429 <anushree> sorry still lost <ammarkantawala> ok got it <saifi> i mentioned about coding conventions, the link is here http://www.twincling.org/node/429 <saifi> This should get completed soon. <nik_m> ok <ammarkantawala> what to complete sir?? <saifi> The coding conventions need to be completely documented, thats what i meant sir. <ammarkantawala> ok <ammarkantawala> any other issues <saifi> We'll address them as they aris/get discussed. <ammarkantawala> ok <saifi> so UI mockups. <ammarkantawala> ??? <saifi> both gongtong and triage have significant user interaction. <ammarkantawala> that's ggod to hear <ammarkantawala> that's good to hear <nik_m> saifi, just to be clear... UI mockups are conceptual designs... its what the actual UI should look like ... correct ? <saifi> yes conceptual designs to help get the workflows right. <saifi> from a design perspective it Top-Down and we need that to mirror user interaction. <anushree> can you please give an example? <saifi> it will also help us figure out what do when an 'exception' arises. <saifi> anushree have you ever played a video/computer game ? <anushree> yes <saifi> cool ... <saifi> so you are playing a certain level in Doom <saifi> and you have this scenery all around. <saifi> suddenly your machine CPU utilization shoots up (in the back ground Anti-Virus kicked in) gauravdott (n=gauravdo@117.197.5.154) has joined #twincling-gongtong <saifi> so when you click on a 'magic room' link in the game, the magic room does not open ! <saifi> since enough memory is not available. gauravdott is sorry to show up <saifi> the exception was "not sufficient memory" to load the next scene/view. gauravdott late he almost forgot <anushree> alright <saifi> the application handled by not opening the level. <saifi> so somewhere the gamedesigner would have thought of this. <nik_m> gaurav: we talked abt ecipse plugin problems.. and now abt UI mockups <saifi> Instead if the game written/codded by an Engineer, we shoudl have expected to see "Exception: Not enough memory, cannot continue !" dialog !!! <anushree> so it is a more user friendly way of handling exceptions? <saifi> "Designer" and "Engineer" are two very different entities. <saifi> no <saifi> a designer engineers, but most engineers unfortunately donot design <saifi> they just bang bang ... like to code ... or so they think. <gauravdott> nik_m: thanks <saifi> the purpose of UI mockups is to actually help do the design of the workflow. <saifi> i'm sure people would have seen an Apple Mac laptop and Ubuntu laptop, the difference can be seen <saifi> The beautification comes later <anushree> so it helps to create a more complete end product? <saifi> cute icons, impressive hues, colors are the result of creativity of Artist. but the artist cannot change what was engineered. <saifi> Yes Anushree, you are right. <saifi> a complete end product is not one in which we have 1000+ features <saifi> a complete end product may have just 10 features but each of those features is well designed to work with each other. <saifi> Compare your cellphone interface and your desktop OS interface. <saifi> which do you think is a more complete product ? <ammarkantawala> ok <ammarkantawala> both <ammarkantawala> depends on the hardware on which the s/w is installed <saifi> as an example, BEST buses in Mumbai will have 'bluetooth' now, but they will continue to arrive late <saifi> incomplete product <anushree> so they help corelate all the features and enable best performance possible? <ammarkantawala> donot match with the previous example <saifi> Ammar ji, the hardware guys are a decade ahead of the softwar guys. lets not worry. <saifi> Yes anushree and to correct your sentence .... "enable best experience possible" ! <ammarkantawala> i did not got the BEst example <nik_m> hmm.... the core features should work w/o hiccups... and be intuitive... thats what i get from the BEST example <saifi> the feature of a bus service is to arrive always on time. <saifi> what do i get if i'm arriving late and have bluetooth for me. <ammarkantawala> ok <saifi> Yes Nikhil. <ammarkantawala> so the main features should work smoothly hasssleless <saifi> "from the point of view of the customer", <saifi> "from the point of view of the customer", <saifi> "from the point of view of the customer", <saifi> "from the point of view of the customer", <ammarkantawala> without inrterrupting others <ammarkantawala> ok <saifi> the only way we can do that is by 'MOCKUP's ! <anushree> so it is like a car crash test? <anushree> see what goes wrong and take corrective measures? <anushree> or is it done before the product is made? <ammarkantawala> testing is done at each stage <ammarkantawala> of product development <nik_m> saifi... it would be nice if u show us a test mockup.. so we can better understand it <anushree> yes that would be really helpful <saifi> always before the product is made ? <saifi> always before the product is made ! <ammarkantawala> during the product is made... <saifi> in fact as part of the Engineering at Twincling, we use a model from the automobile industry <saifi> Toyota (Waste elimination) <saifi> fixing too many bugs/defects is waste of resources. <ammarkantawala> ok <ammarkantawala> as in??? <saifi> mockups/designs/flows are done before the product is made. <ammarkantawala> yes true should be done beforehand <saifi> What we did today was discuss the idea of 'mockups' <saifi> Sure Nikhil, Anushree. <ammarkantawala> ok <saifi> what i propose to do is actually do some PhotoNotes by this weekend and post it out for you guys to review and discuss. <saifi> Does that work for everybody / <nik_m> cool <anushree> alright <ammarkantawala> sir photo notes on what??? irc's........ <nik_m> blog i suppose <ammarkantawala> which blog's <ammarkantawala> ok i am leaving' <saifi> http://picasaweb.google.com/twincling/Gongtong# <saifi> i'd update the stuff here. <nik_m> ok <rajkumar> ok <nik_m> bye ammar <saifi> sorry i don't blog. <ammarkantawala> sir there are no photos there <ammarkantawala> currently <saifi> sir the photos will be seen there in due course. <saifi> a picture is worth a thousand words, if taken correctly ! <ammarkantawala> ok si thanks and good night <ammarkantawala> dd all of u had ur dinner today <ammarkantawala> ????????? <rajkumar> no :-) <saifi> so you may have noticed that i've a flickr account http://www.flickr.com/photos/saifi <nik_m> ya.. i had early ... was starving last time <anushree> nope, am 1 and a half hours behind and came prepared this time <saifi> photos, video are very powerful and expressive. <saifi> so i'll do photonotes. <saifi> All the team members are welcome to write blogs on twincling.org or any website of their choice <saifi> or the project site, whatever. <saifi> Does that work for everybody / <nik_m> ok <anushree> ok <rajkumar> ok <ammarkantawala> ok <ammarkantawala> should now we leave sir <gauravdott> saifi: yup <saifi> theek hain guys ... i've been hanging on the IRC since 1845 hrs. <saifi> <gauravdott> <nik_m> ohh.. <gauravdott> bye <nik_m> bye guys <saifi> Thank you for your time. <ammarkantawala> welcome sir <saifi> some body please post the irc log. <saifi> good night. <anushree> good night <saifi> anushree good evening. saifi has quit ("leaving") gauravdott (n=gauravdo@117.197.5.154) has left #twincling-gongtong ("Leaving") Regards Nikhil |
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From: Namita I. <na...@tw...> - 2009-06-06 07:37:47
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On Friday 05 June 2009 07:42:49 pm nikhil wrote: << snipped >> > *Picard:* This sounds interesting. I don’t think anyone has ever > designed such a product before. Thanks Data > *Data:* You’re welcome Captain. > > > > Regards > Nikhil Very well put Nikhil. Spock would have said "Fascinating" to that one :-) Namita |
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From: S. D. G. <sa...@tw...> - 2009-06-06 05:13:35
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Hey good to see you guys meet-up, was not in schem of things the whole week had some personal crisis to take care of. I see a question about analytics, analytics is what drives marketing initiatives of a company, based on this data companies plan about their forays into the market. Analytics is not just mathematics its science. The reason I talk about is because , analytics and data is the backbone of this product. If you guys have seen the link sent by Saifi about the IIM venture funding meet-up, in the bangalore agenda their are two topics to be discussed about analytics. Nikhil you have put across the conversation really well. Regards Sanjeeb > -------Original Message------- > From: nikhil <ni...@gm...> > Subject: [gongtong] Design of gongtong discussed during F2F meet. > Sent: Jun 05 '09 19:42 > > Hi Guys, > > I want to brief you about the F2F discussion on gongtong that happened > this week. Many of you might have gone through the gongtong overview made > available by Saifi on the gontong mailing list. > > Summarizing the discussion using bullet points would keep this mail short > [and boring :)] . But F2F are more like Q&A. > > So I have come up with a cool idea: To present the design on gongtong as > a hypothetical discussion/Q&A between 2 people. I believe we also recorded > the audio of the F2F discussion. Until its made available, this should > help. > > I have tried to cover as many points as possible, and made them as simple > as possible. We can later pick any point and then discuss it at length both > design wise and implementation wise. If I have missed any point please feel > free to add. > > > ( _The discussion is between 2 people, Capt. Picard and Commander Data > [sorry big star Trek fan _:)_ ] . Picard doesn’t know anything about > gongtong and is asking Data about it. Since he is also technically > inferior, Data must keep the talk as simple as possible._ ) > > � PICARD: So Data, what is this gongtong ? > DATA:� � gongtong Sir, in chinese means - work jointly, collaboratively. > > > PICARD: Arr … Data, I meant the project... > DATA: � � gongtong is a "real time" virtual events technology platform > with the entire event management, organization, interaction an… > > > PICARD: …English ….Data… Speak English… > DATA: � My apologies. Let me elaborate. > > Our day-to-day formal communication between friends, colleagues and most > other people is conducted either in the form of Meetings, Conferences, > Seminars, Unconferences… etc. But, all these have been the most > productive when conducted Face-to-face. Several attempts have been made in > the past to digitize this process. But, they are still not upto the mark. > > > This is where gongtong comes in. The aim of gongtong is to overcome all > the previously faced hurdles and make the virtual communication as close as > possible to F2F or even better. > > > PICARD: But, why bother at all ? F2F is a well established model. Can’t > we just improvise on that ? > DATA:� � Conducting� real-time virtual communication has major benefits. > > . cut down in cost of travel > > . larger reach out across a timezone or globe > . richer interaction between the participants > . significant reduction in cost of organization. > > > PICARD: Hmm… How do we plan to achieve this ? > DATA:� � � By using Web 2.0 technologies. gongtong will provide a > interface over� the web, to plan & conduct event activities, tasks� > > � and interactions.� > > PICARD: Don’t we already have things like Skype, gTalk, NetMeeting ..etc > that� can be used to achieve this ? > DATA:� � � Correct. But as you mentioned there are a bunch of stuff. But > NO single one to do all these. gontong is a unified > > � communication platform for different modes like Broadcast, P2P .. and > different mediums like Audio, Video, text…etc. > � � � � � � � � � � Also, all the current Apps require some form of > client side installation. Our aim is to completely deploy this feature only > > � � � � � � � � � � � through the Web Browser. > > > PICARD: How do you plan to implement unified communication ? Do you have > any design in mind ? > DATA:� � Yes. We will provide a Web Portal, for users to register and > login into gontong. Upon that, > � � � � � � � � � � � the user will be presented with a plethora of > options. > > > � � He will be presented with a dashboard, where he can create, modify and > configure events. > > � � He will also be see a number of widgets by default or of his > choosing.These widgets will be used for tasks like displaying > > > � Upcoming / Currently happening events. > � Contacts. > � Past Recorded Events. .. etc > � Mailing service where he can view any messages, feedback received or he > intends to send any. > > And much more features will be added as it stabilizes. > > > PICARD:� Tell me more about creating / editing an event. > DATA : � � Certainly. > > > � Firstly the user has to choose what type of an event he plans to have. > � This is necessary as different events require different options. Like, a > Seminar has an appointed speaker, a Meeting has everyone participating > equally… etc. > > � Based upon his choosing, he then enables the Audio/Video/Text features. > Ex: Quality of A/V, Bandwidth Limitation, Speech to ext and more. > > � He then specifies constraints like No. of participants, Duration. He > can also design a micro-website, which the attendees will see when they > visit his event. > > � An analytics engine, which tracks all the attendees during the event, is > also provided with gongtong. > Picard: Do we even need an analytics engine ? I mean isn’t the event > registration enough ? > DATA:� � � No. You see as an event organizer, I also need to know how > much time did the attendees actually spend in the event, how > � � � � � � � � � � � much interest did they lose/gain during the talk, > how they rated the event and much more. > > > PICARD: And we track interest using what ? > DATA:� � � We can monitor how much time did each user spend on a > particular topic during the event, or use a widget, like say an > � � � � � � � � � � Interest-o-meter, that can be used to rate the > speaker by the user. > > > PICARD: So everybody needs to have a webcam or so to attend an event ? > DATA:� � � � Not necessarily. Any user can choose to have Video, only > Audio or just Text. gongtong will adjust to his preferences.� > > > PICARD: Data you are assuming all discussions will go smoothly. That’s > usually not the case. Online debates can easily get out of > � � � � � � � � � � � hand. How do you overcome such a situation ? > DATA:� � The event organizer has the capability to appoint a gongtong > Admin who moderates the discussions. He can ban users from > � � � � � � a talk or see that all users get a fair chance to > speak during meetings/debates just like in F2F discussions. > > > PICARD: What if I miss an event ? Can we record events ? > DATA:� � � Yes. We certainly can. The event organizer can enable > Recording the event. He can later make it available online if he > � � � � � � � � � � � intends to. Recording options can be provided while > creating the event. > > > PICARD: You keep talking about features and more features. How are we ever > going to build and integrate so many of them ? > DATA:� � gontong will be a Plugin based framework. Any feature or > Interface can be written as a plugin, and enabled / disabled as per > � � � � � � � � � � � needs. > > > PICARD: But Data, deploying this for over thousands maybe millions of > users will require some serious hardware… > DATA:� � True. That’s why we will be deploying it in a Cloud based > infrastructure like Amazon EC2 or Eucalyptus. Or if the user has > � � � � � � � � � � � access to such hardware he can deploy it on his > own. > > > PICARD: This sounds interesting. I don’t think anyone has ever > designed� such a product before. Thanks Data > DATA:� � � You’re welcome Captain. > > > Regards > Nikhil > > -------------------- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises > looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest > > innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and > enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. > Go to: [LINK: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get] > http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get > -------------------- > _______________________________________________ > twincling-gongtong mailing list > [LINK: compose.php?to=twi...@li...] > twi...@li... > [LINK: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/twincling-gongtong] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/twincling-gongtong |
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From: nikhil <ni...@gm...> - 2009-06-05 14:13:22
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Hi Guys,
I want to brief you about the F2F discussion on gongtong that happened this
week. Many of you might have gone through the gongtong overview made
available by Saifi on the gontong mailing list.
Summarizing the discussion using bullet points would keep this mail short
[and boring *:)*] . But F2F are more like Q&A.
So I have come up with a cool idea: To present the design on gongtong as a
hypothetical discussion/Q&A between 2 people. I believe we also recorded the
audio of the F2F discussion. Until its made available, this should help.
I have tried to cover as many points as possible, and made them as simple as
possible. We can later pick any point and then discuss it at length both
design wise and implementation wise. If I have missed any point please feel
free to add.
( *The discussion is between 2 people, Capt. Picard and Commander Data
[sorry big star Trek fan **:)** ] . Picard doesn’t know anything about
gongtong and is asking Data about it. Since he is also technically inferior,
Data must keep the talk as simple as possible.* )
*Picard:* So Data, what is this gongtong ?
*Data: * gongtong Sir, in chinese means - work jointly, collaboratively.
*Picard: *Arr … Data, I meant the project...
*Data:* gongtong is a "real time" virtual events technology platform with
the entire event management, organization, interaction an…
*Picard:* …English ….Data… Speak English…
*Data: * My apologies. Let me elaborate.
Our day-to-day formal communication between friends, colleagues and most
other people is conducted either in the form of Meetings, Conferences,
Seminars, Unconferences… etc. But, all these have been the most productive
when conducted Face-to-face. Several attempts have been made in the past to
digitize this process. But, they are still not upto the mark.
This is where gongtong comes in. The aim of gongtong is to overcome all the
previously faced hurdles and make the virtual communication as close as
possible to F2F or even better.
*Picard:* But, why bother at all ? F2F is a well established model. Can’t we
just improvise on that ?
*Data: * Conducting real-time virtual communication has major benefits.
. cut down in cost of travel
. larger reach out across a timezone or globe
. richer interaction between the participants
. significant reduction in cost of organization.
*Picard:* Hmm… How do we plan to achieve this ?
*Data: * By using Web 2.0 technologies. gongtong will provide a interface
over the web, to plan & conduct event activities, tasks
and interactions.
*Picard: *Don’t we already have things like Skype, gTalk, NetMeeting ..etc
that can be used to achieve this ?
*Data:* Correct. But as you mentioned there are a bunch of stuff. But NO
single one to do all these. gontong is a unified
communication platform for different modes like Broadcast, P2P .. and
different mediums like Audio, Video, text…etc.
Also, all the current Apps require some form of client side
installation. Our aim is to completely deploy this feature only
through the Web Browser.
*Picard:* How do you plan to implement unified communication ? Do you have
any design in mind ?
*Data: * Yes. We will provide a Web Portal, for users to register and
login into gontong. Upon that,
the user will be presented with a plethora of options.
- He will be presented with a dashboard, where he can create, modify and
configure events.
- He will also be see a number of widgets by default or of his
choosing.These widgets will be used for tasks like displaying
- Upcoming / Currently happening events.
- Contacts.
- Past Recorded Events. .. etc
- Mailing service where he can view any messages, feedback received or
he intends to send any.
And much more features will be added as it stabilizes.
*Picard: * Tell me more about creating / editing an event.
*Data : * Certainly.
- Firstly the user has to choose what type of an event he plans to have.
This is necessary as different events require different options. Like, a
Seminar has an appointed speaker, a Meeting has everyone participating
equally… etc.
- Based upon his choosing, he then enables the Audio/Video/Text features.
Ex: Quality of A/V, Bandwidth Limitation, Speech to ext and more.
- He then specifies constraints like No. of participants, Duration. He
can also design a micro-website, which the attendees will see when they
visit his event.
- An analytics engine, which tracks all the attendees during the event,
is also provided with gongtong.
*
Picard:* Do we even need an analytics engine ? I mean isn’t the event
registration enough ?
*Data: * No. You see as an event organizer, I also need to know how much
time did the attendees actually spend in the event, how
much interest did they lose/gain during the talk, how they rated
the event and much more.
*Picard:* And we track interest using what ?
*Data: * We can monitor how much time did each user spend on a particular
topic during the event, or use a widget, like say an
Interest-o-meter, that can be used to rate the speaker by the
user.
*Picard:* So everybody needs to have a webcam or so to attend an event ?
*Data:* Not necessarily. Any user can choose to have Video, only Audio
or just Text. gongtong will adjust to his preferences.
*Picard: *Data you are assuming all discussions will go smoothly. That’s
usually not the case. Online debates can easily get out of
hand. How do you overcome such a situation ?
*Data: * The event organizer has the capability to appoint a gongtong Admin
who moderates the discussions. He can ban users from
a talk or see that all users get a fair chance to speak during
meetings/debates just like in F2F discussions.
*Picard: *What if I miss an event ? Can we record events ?
*Data:* Yes. We certainly can. The event organizer can enable Recording
the event. He can later make it available online if he
intends to. Recording options can be provided while creating the
event.
*Picard:* You keep talking about features and more features. How are we ever
going to build and integrate so many of them ?
*Data:* gontong will be a Plugin based framework. Any feature or
Interface can be written as a plugin, and enabled / disabled as per
needs.
*Picard:* But Data, deploying this for over thousands maybe millions of
users will require some serious hardware…
*Data: * True. That’s why we will be deploying it in a Cloud based
infrastructure like Amazon EC2 or Eucalyptus. Or if the user has
access to such hardware he can deploy it on his own.
*Picard:* This sounds interesting. I don’t think anyone has ever
designed such a product before. Thanks Data
*Data:* You’re welcome Captain.
Regards
Nikhil
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From: Saifi K. <sai...@tw...> - 2009-05-25 10:06:58
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Hi Stars: -- gongtong project gongtong is a "real time" virtual events technology platform. gongtong in chinese means - work jointly, collaboratively. The entire event management, organization, innauguration and interaction is done on web 2.0 as platform Virtual events based on high speed internet and Web 2.0 technologies can be used to organize technical conferences, webinars, product launches, community events, company-wide gatherings, executive presentations, trainings and meetings where one can participate, organize and manage some part or the whole of the event from their desktop. The benefits of "real time" virtual event are: . cut down in cost of travel . larger reach out across a timezone or globe . richer interaction between the participants . more opportunity for UN-panel, UN-conference modes . blend of customer driven sessions with corporate driven sessions. . bi-directional, m-n interactions and exchange . foster a stronger sense of community . significant reduction in cost of organization gongtong is a plugins based framework that provides functionality for the various event activities, tasks and interactions packaged in a sophisticated interface and delivered over the web. What is the technology ? Sun JRE 5/6 Scala 2.7.4 (later 2.8.0) Lift 1.0 framework PostgreSql 8.3+ plugin architecture ajax/jquery What is the deployment model ? Dedicated hosting Amazon Elastic cloud (EC2) hosting. What is the communication channel ? IRC #twincling on irc.freenode.net #twincling-gongtong mailing list https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/twincling-gongtong weekly status updates everybody including mentors will post their status updates as a blog on twincling.org with the following tags . Open Source tag: project-name . Project tag : status, update -- Hope this helps. thanks Saifi. |
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From: Ammar K. <amm...@gm...> - 2009-05-25 03:54:04
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Dear friends, Please mil me the project details of GONGTONG Ammar Kantawala |
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