toppler-general — comments and questions

[Toppler-general] Release 1.3

[David N. <def...@nu...>]

On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 17:26:28 +0100
Andreas R?ver <and...@we...> wrote:
> top post remark:
>
> :P
>
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 14:45:10 -0400
> David Niklas <def...@nu...> wrote:
>
> > Yuck, a top post. Reformat.
> >
> > On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 17:55:07 +0100
> > Andreas River <and...@we...> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 13:59:14 -0500
> > > David Niklas <def...@nu...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 17:37:18 +0100
> > > > Andreas R?ver <and...@we...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I just pushed release 1.3.
> > > > >
> > > > > - fix centering of background image in highscore menus
> > > > > - add a bigger icon
> > > > > - fix global highscore folder
> > > > > - data file is no longer re-created unnecessarily
> > > > > - install man-page
> > > > > - updated translation for Czech and Finnish language
> > > > > - only c++ 17 required not c++ 20
> > > >
> > > > Hey Andreas,
> > > > I tried to build toppler 1.3, but it failed. If I knew C++ I'd
> > > > try and help you with this, but I don't at this time. The
> > > > problems start in src/archi.cc "#include <bit>". It can't find
> > > > "bit". I tried adding a ".h" and then a ".hpp" (because that's
> > > > normally what's the problem) but it didn't work.
> > > > I might be missing a dependency, but I have no way of knowing
> > > > because there are no dependencies listed in the readme. I have
> > > > libsdl2-dev installed. I'm running Devuan (Debian) Linux.
> > > >
> > > > I've attached the stderr output for your viewing pleasure.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > David
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This is a bit compiler dependent. I tried to fix as many errors as I
> > > could find in the error message you send. But I can not check here.
> > >
> > > Please try again and send the log again.
> > >
> > > Also please send me your compiler and compiler version.
> > >
> > > Andreas
> >
> > Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I forgot to keep checking my
> > "toppler" email folder.
> >
> > It looks like you got almost all the problems!
> > The next popular error is "#include <string_view>".
> > I've attached the build log (I ran it with make -j100 so gcc would
> > find more errors than the one above).
> >
> > % gcc --version
> > gcc (Debian 6.3.0-18+deb9u1) 6.3.0 20170516
> >
> > To be fair, it is an older version, with most distros running 7.5 or
> > higher. I had planned to upgrade a few months ago, but life has a way
> > of giving me unexpected challenges.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
>
> What: instead of updating your compiler you let me remove all that
> stuff ??? :)

In all seriousness, I really really don't intend to place unnecessary
work on maintainers hands. It's literally the last thing I'd want to do.
I'm sorry to trouble you. I based my decision to write you off of my own
observations of what compilers other distros were using over the years
compared to what the latest gcc release version was. When I last checked,
which was when gcc 10 was released, they were lagging about 4-5 versions
behind. I didn't imagine distro maintainers suddenly got a fire lit under
their pants that caused them all to update their compiler versions so. I
think it might have something to do with the new and exciting state of
the CPU market.

> You are lucky that those features were only used in very few places. I
> will not remove something that is used widespread.
>
> C++ has had some drastic development over the last years. You really
> need a recent compiler to be able to compile modern C++... so spur up.
>
> Anyway, I pushed a change that should solve all the errors from your
> messages.
>
>
> Andreas
>

On a strictly "if you fell like it" basis, I'm sending you a few more
errors. I will not feel hurt if you don't fix them.

Thanks,
David

Re: [Toppler-general] Release 1.3

[Andreas R. <and...@we...>]

top post remark:

:P

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 14:45:10 -0400
David Niklas <def...@nu...> wrote:

> Yuck, a top post. Reformat.
> 
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 17:55:07 +0100
> Andreas River <and...@we...> wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 13:59:14 -0500
> > David Niklas <def...@nu...> wrote:
> >  
> > > On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 17:37:18 +0100
> > > Andreas R?ver <and...@we...> wrote:  
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I just pushed release 1.3.
> > > >
> > > > - fix centering of background image in highscore menus
> > > > - add a bigger icon
> > > > - fix global highscore folder
> > > > - data file is no longer re-created unnecessarily
> > > > - install man-page
> > > > - updated translation for Czech and Finnish language
> > > > - only c++ 17 required not c++ 20  
> > >
> > > Hey Andreas,
> > > I tried to build toppler 1.3, but it failed. If I knew C++ I'd
> > > try and help you with this, but I don't at this time. The
> > > problems start in src/archi.cc "#include <bit>". It can't find
> > > "bit". I tried adding a ".h" and then a ".hpp" (because that's
> > > normally what's the problem) but it didn't work.
> > > I might be missing a dependency, but I have no way of knowing
> > > because there are no dependencies listed in the readme. I have
> > > libsdl2-dev installed. I'm running Devuan (Debian) Linux.
> > >
> > > I've attached the stderr output for your viewing pleasure.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > David  
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is a bit compiler dependent. I tried to fix as many errors as I
> > could find in the error message you send. But I can not check here.
> >
> > Please try again and send the log again.
> >
> > Also please send me your compiler and compiler version.
> >
> > Andreas  
> 
> Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I forgot to keep checking my
> "toppler" email folder.
> 
> It looks like you got almost all the problems!
> The next popular error is "#include <string_view>".
> I've attached the build log (I ran it with make -j100 so gcc would
> find more errors than the one above).
> 
> % gcc --version
> gcc (Debian 6.3.0-18+deb9u1) 6.3.0 20170516
> 
> To be fair, it is an older version, with most distros running 7.5 or
> higher. I had planned to upgrade a few months ago, but life has a way
> of giving me unexpected challenges.
> 
> Thanks,
> David

What: instead of updating your compiler you let me remove all that
stuff ??? :)

You are lucky that those features were only used in very few places. I
will not remove something that is used widespread.

C++ has had some drastic development over the last years. You really
need a recent compiler to be able to compile modern C++... so spur up.

Anyway, I pushed a change that should solve all the errors from your
messages.


Andreas

Re: [Toppler-general] Release 1.3

[David N. <def...@nu...>]

Yuck, a top post. Reformat.

On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 17:55:07 +0100
Andreas River <and...@we...> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 13:59:14 -0500
> David Niklas <def...@nu...> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 17:37:18 +0100
> > Andreas R?ver <and...@we...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I just pushed release 1.3.
> > >
> > > - fix centering of background image in highscore menus
> > > - add a bigger icon
> > > - fix global highscore folder
> > > - data file is no longer re-created unnecessarily
> > > - install man-page
> > > - updated translation for Czech and Finnish language
> > > - only c++ 17 required not c++ 20
> >
> > Hey Andreas,
> > I tried to build toppler 1.3, but it failed. If I knew C++ I'd try and
> > help you with this, but I don't at this time. The problems start in
> > src/archi.cc "#include <bit>". It can't find "bit". I tried adding a
> > ".h" and then a ".hpp" (because that's normally what's the problem)
> > but it didn't work.
> > I might be missing a dependency, but I have no way of knowing because
> > there are no dependencies listed in the readme. I have libsdl2-dev
> > installed. I'm running Devuan (Debian) Linux.
> >
> > I've attached the stderr output for your viewing pleasure.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> Hi,
>
> This is a bit compiler dependent. I tried to fix as many errors as I
> could find in the error message you send. But I can not check here.
>
> Please try again and send the log again.
>
> Also please send me your compiler and compiler version.
>
> Andreas

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I forgot to keep checking my
"toppler" email folder.

It looks like you got almost all the problems!
The next popular error is "#include <string_view>".
I've attached the build log (I ran it with make -j100 so gcc would find
more errors than the one above).

% gcc --version
gcc (Debian 6.3.0-18+deb9u1) 6.3.0 20170516

To be fair, it is an older version, with most distros running 7.5 or
higher. I had planned to upgrade a few months ago, but life has a way of
giving me unexpected challenges.

Thanks,
David

Re: [Toppler-general] Release 1.3

[Andreas R. <and...@we...>]

Hi,

This is a bit compiler dependent. I tried to fix as many errors as I
could find in the error message you send. But I can not check here.

Please try again and send the log again.

Also please send me your compiler and compiler version.

Andreas

On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 13:59:14 -0500
David Niklas <def...@nu...> wrote:

> On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 17:37:18 +0100
> Andreas R?ver <and...@we...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just pushed release 1.3.
> >
> > - fix centering of background image in highscore menus
> > - add a bigger icon
> > - fix global highscore folder
> > - data file is no longer re-created unnecessarily
> > - install man-page
> > - updated translation for Czech and Finnish language
> > - only c++ 17 required not c++ 20  
> 
> Hey Andreas,
> I tried to build toppler 1.3, but it failed. If I knew C++ I'd try and
> help you with this, but I don't at this time. The problems start in
> src/archi.cc "#include <bit>". It can't find "bit". I tried adding a
> ".h" and then a ".hpp" (because that's normally what's the problem)
> but it didn't work.
> I might be missing a dependency, but I have no way of knowing because
> there are no dependencies listed in the readme. I have libsdl2-dev
> installed. I'm running Devuan (Debian) Linux.
> 
> I've attached the stderr output for your viewing pleasure.
> 
> Thanks,
> David

Re: [Toppler-general] Release 1.3

[David N. <def...@nu...>]

On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 17:37:18 +0100
Andreas R?ver <and...@we...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just pushed release 1.3.
>
> - fix centering of background image in highscore menus
> - add a bigger icon
> - fix global highscore folder
> - data file is no longer re-created unnecessarily
> - install man-page
> - updated translation for Czech and Finnish language
> - only c++ 17 required not c++ 20

Hey Andreas,
I tried to build toppler 1.3, but it failed. If I knew C++ I'd try and
help you with this, but I don't at this time. The problems start in
src/archi.cc "#include <bit>". It can't find "bit". I tried adding a ".h"
and then a ".hpp" (because that's normally what's the problem) but it
didn't work.
I might be missing a dependency, but I have no way of knowing because
there are no dependencies listed in the readme. I have libsdl2-dev
installed. I'm running Devuan (Debian) Linux.

I've attached the stderr output for your viewing pleasure.

Thanks,
David

[Toppler-general] Release 1.3

[Andreas R. <and...@we...>]

Hi,

I just pushed release 1.3. 

- fix centering of background image in highscore menus
- add a bigger icon
- fix global highscore folder
- data file is no longer re-created unnecessarily
- install man-page
- updated translation for Czech and Finnish language
- only c++ 17 required not c++ 20

Re: [Toppler-general] Release 1.2

[David N. <def...@nu...>]

I just tried the latest git. It will not build.

Log output is below. In short, you're asking for the latest C++ standard
and my Gcc, at version 6.3, is too old. But actually it seems odd to me
that you'd ask for version 20 considering that it's only available on the
latest version of gcc (version 11).
"GCC supports most of the changes in the new specification."
https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/master/gcc/doc/standards.texi

Even experimental support was only added in version 8.
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-Patches-CPP2A-CPP20

llvm, at version 13 now, added c++20 support at version 11.
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clang-std-cpp-20-Added

I'd suggest going for C++17 instead of c++20 if possible. Even when I
upgrade my system, I will most certainly not be using a bleeding edge
complier. It's not that I'm a coward, it's that I don't have the amount
of time to trouble shoot a new compiler -- I'm already a bit overwhelmed
by the many other bugs I need to prove on the latest versions of
applications.

Thanks,
David



% make -j1
g++ -Wall -Wextra -g -O2 -std=c++20 $(pkg-config --cflags SDL2_mixer sdl2
zlib) -DVERSION='"1.2"' -DTOP_DATADIR='"/usr/share/toppler"'
-DHISCOREDIR='"/var/toppler"' -DENABLE_NLS=1
-DLOCALEDIR='"/usr/share/locale"' -c -o _build//archi.cc.o src/archi.cc
g++: error: unrecognized command line option '-std=c++20'; did you mean
'-std=c++03'? Makefile:79: recipe for target '_build//archi.cc.o' failed
make: *** [_build//archi.cc.o] Error 1

% gcc --version
gcc (Debian 6.3.0-18+deb9u1) 6.3.0 20170516
Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
PURPOSE.

Re: [Toppler-general] Release 1.2

[Felix B. <lin...@gm...>]

On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 16:38:01 +0100, Andreas Röver
<and...@we...> wrote about "Re: [Toppler-general] Release 1.2":

> But it would be cool, if you could check that everything works out on
> Arch Linux.

git-checkout builds and starts for me with [this](http://ix.io/3Oz2)
recipe.

-- 
ich warte gerne [...] Wenn ich warten muss, da hab' ich ja viel Zeit.

(Quelle: Peter Lustig, http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ippbVCKbjQ&t=113)

Re: [Toppler-general] Release 1.2

[David N. <def...@nu...>]

> To everyone still out there listening,

Awesome! I'll build it on (Devuan) Debian and give you feed back.

Thanks for your work!
David

Re: [Toppler-general] Release 1.2

[Andreas R. <and...@we...>]

Hi,

yes a new release should be done soon-ish, like the next weekend or so.

But it would be cool, if you could check that everything works out on
Arch Linux.

Andreas


> Just to let you know from someone following thus:
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> I will make sure the Arch Linux (AUR) package gets updated.
> 
> Will latest git checkout have features and fixes that are not in the
> main version, or will main version follow up with not big delay?
> 
> ----------------------------------------
> 
> From: Andreas Röver <andreas_roever@...>
> To: toppler-general@...
> Date: Feb 1, 2022 19:53:07
> Subject: [Toppler-general] Release 1.2
> 
> > To everyone still out there listening,
> > 
> > I has been a while and Toppler has been rotting away slowly. But
> > finally I made a new release that brings Toppler back to the
> > present.
> > 
> > I did change a lot over the past 2 months:
> > 
> > The most important change is a port to SDL2 with the accompanying
> > benefits:
> > - proper full-screen support
> > - resizeable window
> > - variable aspect ratio properly used (instead of letterboxing) so
> > you can finally enjoy Toppler on a widescreen
> > 
> > I did improve the visuals of the game quite a bit
> > - new brick textures that look quite a bit more 3d
> > - shadows behind objects (robots, tower elements)
> > - objects get darker as they recced behind the tower
> > - better quality for the colour reduced data resulting in all around
> >   better looking graphics (only slightly though)
> > - improved bonus level graphics (better horizontal match, better
> >   antialiasing)
> > - fix a bug in sprite rendering that resulted in an strange looking
> >   edge for objects
> > - smoother animation for the robots with twice the frame-rate and
> > also slightly improved animations
> > 
> > Under the hood
> > 
> > - Drop autoconf stuff and use a makefile instead
> > - fix all warnings
> > - cleanups inside the datafile creation tools
> > - remove the worst non-c++ stuff and replace by c++ nicer
> > constructs I think the code looks much better now
> > - datafile optimisations (a slight bit smaller though that got
> > eaten up by the graphics improvements from above)
> > 
> > Organisational
> > 
> > - moved to gitlab. the website is now
> > https://gitlab.com/roever/toppler/
> > - use the gitlab ticket system please
> > - the separate projects for levels and data are gone, it all is now
> >   part of the main repository and the datafile can be build using
> > the included makefile
> > 
> > 
> > There are still a few smaller bugs left because a lot was changed,
> > but you might want to have a look. A bugfix release will probably
> > follow soon.
> > 
> > 
> > Anyway, have fun
> > 
> > Andreas

Re: [Toppler-general] Release 1.2

[Felix B. <lin...@gm...>]

Just to let you know from someone following thus:

Thanks!

I will make sure the Arch Linux (AUR) package gets updated.

Will latest git checkout have features and fixes that are not in the main version, or will main version follow up with not big delay?

----------------------------------------

From: Andreas Röver <and...@we...>
To: top...@li...
Date: Feb 1, 2022 19:53:07
Subject: [Toppler-general] Release 1.2

> To everyone still out there listening,
> 
> I has been a while and Toppler has been rotting away slowly. But
> finally I made a new release that brings Toppler back to the present.
> 
> I did change a lot over the past 2 months:
> 
> The most important change is a port to SDL2 with the accompanying
> benefits:
> - proper full-screen support
> - resizeable window
> - variable aspect ratio properly used (instead of letterboxing) so you
>   can finally enjoy Toppler on a widescreen
> 
> I did improve the visuals of the game quite a bit
> - new brick textures that look quite a bit more 3d
> - shadows behind objects (robots, tower elements)
> - objects get darker as they recced behind the tower
> - better quality for the colour reduced data resulting in all around
>   better looking graphics (only slightly though)
> - improved bonus level graphics (better horizontal match, better
>   antialiasing)
> - fix a bug in sprite rendering that resulted in an strange looking
>   edge for objects
> - smoother animation for the robots with twice the frame-rate and also
>   slightly improved animations
> 
> Under the hood
> 
> - Drop autoconf stuff and use a makefile instead
> - fix all warnings
> - cleanups inside the datafile creation tools
> - remove the worst non-c++ stuff and replace by c++ nicer constructs I
>   think the code looks much better now
> - datafile optimisations (a slight bit smaller though that got eaten up
>   by the graphics improvements from above)
> 
> Organisational
> 
> - moved to gitlab. the website is now https://gitlab.com/roever/toppler/
> - use the gitlab ticket system please
> - the separate projects for levels and data are gone, it all is now
>   part of the main repository and the datafile can be build using the
>   included makefile
> 
> 
> There are still a few smaller bugs left because a lot was changed, but
> you might want to have a look. A bugfix release will probably follow
> soon.
> 
> 
> Anyway, have fun
> 
> Andreas

[Toppler-general] Release 1.2

[Andreas R. <and...@we...>]

To everyone still out there listening,

I has been a while and Toppler has been rotting away slowly. But
finally I made a new release that brings Toppler back to the present.

I did change a lot over the past 2 months:

The most important change is a port to SDL2 with the accompanying
benefits:
- proper full-screen support
- resizeable window
- variable aspect ratio properly used (instead of letterboxing) so you
  can finally enjoy Toppler on a widescreen

I did improve the visuals of the game quite a bit
- new brick textures that look quite a bit more 3d
- shadows behind objects (robots, tower elements)
- objects get darker as they recced behind the tower
- better quality for the colour reduced data resulting in all around
  better looking graphics (only slightly though) 
- improved bonus level graphics (better horizontal match, better
  antialiasing) 
- fix a bug in sprite rendering that resulted in an strange looking
  edge for objects 
- smoother animation for the robots with twice the frame-rate and also
  slightly improved animations

Under the hood

- Drop autoconf stuff and use a makefile instead
- fix all warnings
- cleanups inside the datafile creation tools
- remove the worst non-c++ stuff and replace by c++ nicer constructs I
  think the code looks much better now 
- datafile optimisations (a slight bit smaller though that got eaten up
  by the graphics improvements from above)

Organisational

- moved to gitlab. the website is now https://gitlab.com/roever/toppler/
- use the gitlab ticket system please
- the separate projects for levels and data are gone, it all is now
  part of the main repository and the datafile can be build using the
  included makefile


There are still a few smaller bugs left because a lot was changed, but
you might want to have a look. A bugfix release will probably follow
soon.


Anyway, have fun

Andreas

[Toppler-general] Different behaviour of 'toppler' to the original: Elevators with intermediate stops are blocked until

[David N. <do...@ma...>]

On Thu, 28 May 2020 10:33:14 +0200
Felix Becker <lin...@gm...> wrote:
> Already a longer time ago I discovered a point where 'toppler' behaves
> different than the orifginal game (the MS DOS version is the one I
> refer to):
> 
> In the original game, elevators which multiple stops could not be moved
> again is they have stopped at the intermediate or top stop. You had to
> wait until they come done by themselves before you could move again. To
> move to the top, you had to hold down the 'up'-key when they pass the
> intermediate stop.

IIRC, the new levels for toppler depend on that behavior not existing.
I personally don't think its that important to make toppler identical,
but its not my decision.

Thanks,
David

[Toppler-general] Different behaviour of 'toppler' to the original: Elevators with intermediate stops are blocked until timeout in the original.

[Felix B. <lin...@gm...>]

Already a longer time ago I discovered a pint where 'toppler' behaves
different than the orifginal game (the MS DOS version is the one I
refer to):

In the original game, elevators which multiple stops could not be moved
again is they have stopped at the intermediate or top stop. You had to
wait until they come done by themselves before you could move again. To
move to the top, you had to hold down the 'up'-key when they pass the
intermediate stop.

[Toppler-general] Feature request: Make ./cremission create missions in the current directory by default/ accept a target directory.

[Felix B. <lin...@gm...>]

I want to request, that `cremission` by default creates the mission in
the current directory and not in ~/.toppler/, or that it accepts a
command line argument for the target directory.

Reason: As it is now, there is no "clean" build of missions
possible, since it tinkers around with the home directoriy and does not
stay in a build directory.

It even can be seen in
http://toppler.sourceforge.net/repos/levels/Makefile, that some ugly
hack is needed:

```
[...]
	rm ${HOME}/.toppler/t
	mv "${HOME}/.toppler/Mission 1.ttm" m1.ttm
[...]
```

[Toppler-general] Missions created with `cremission` are broken.

[Felix B. <lin...@gm...>]

And there is another problem I stumple upon:

I was making an arch linux package which provides the individual tower
files of the pre-created missions (for the case that someone wants to
dig into them), and also creates a single mission for each single
tower (in order to directly be able to play a specific tower).

But the missions I get by `cremission` have only broken towers:

### Get sources:
    darcs clone --set-scripts-executable --lazy http://toppler.sourceforge.net/repos/toppler/
    darcs clone --set-scripts-executable --lazy http://toppler.sourceforge.net/repos/levels/

### Build `decl.o`:
    cd toppler
    ./autogen.sh
    ./configure
    make toppler

### Build a mission:

    cd ../levels
    make cremission
    ./cremission test_mission 80 mission1/m1t1

Creates a file `~/.toppler/test_mission.ttm` (file attached).

Now I launch `toppler` and run "test_mission" -> I get an empty tower, called "nameless tower" (once I even got a segmentation fault) (Screenshot attached).



Any idea?

The `toppler` executable I use to play the game is the one from the stable source (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/toppler/toppler-1.1.6.tar.gz), since, as I wrote in my other email, installation from the darcs repository fails. Could that be the problem, that missions created with `cremission` are only compatible with exact the same game binary which was also the bases for creating `cremission`? Is there another way to create missions from tower files from a script?

[Toppler-general] make install in po fails: make wants to execute the installation directory.

[Felix B. <lin...@gm...>]

Ahoj,

I currently try to build toppler for myself from the darcs repositories.

I use the precompiled datafile `toppler.dat`, since I do not know how to build it by myself (there is a manual blender run required to get images for the submarine and for fish, and I do not know which parameters are needed -- so I suggest that there will be some automation also included to automatically generate the submarine's and the fish's images from the blender file).

I want to report another problem:

`make install` in `toppler` fails:

`make DESTDIR=/tmp install`:

```
Making install in po
make[1]: Entering directory '/var/abs/local/own/toppler-darcs/src/toppler/po'
/tmp/usr/share
make[1]: /tmp/usr/share: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [Makefile:197: install-data-yes] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory '/var/abs/local/own/toppler-darcs/src/toppler/po'
make: *** [Makefile:876: install-recursive] Error 1
```

--> The problem is in `po/Makefile`.

So, cd-ing to `po`:
`make DESTDIR=/tmp install`:

```
/tmp/usr/share
make: /tmp/usr/share: No such file or directory
make: *** [Makefile:197: install-data-yes] Error 127
```

Creating the directory `/tmp/usr/share` and then
`make DESTDIR=/tmp install`:

```
/tmp/usr/share
make: /tmp/usr/share: Permission denied
make: *** [Makefile:197: install-data-yes] Error 127
```

--> it seems that it wants to _execute_ /tmp/usr/share.


Thanks for (re)creating this great game!

[Toppler-general] How to get through without riser?

[frank e. <do...@ma...>]

HI, I've been enjoying the game but I can't figure out how to complete some of the levels, it looks as though a riser (the thing that rises you up to the top is missing on some of the levels. I'm sorry, I really should give you the names of the levels but I don't have time to play up to them at this point in time. They are in mission 1 or 2.
I'm not saying this is a bug, I think I'm not seeing something or am unaware of something.

Thanks

[Toppler-general] Mission concept and other things

[Юрий К. <Yur...@ya...>]

Mission concept - make a Donkey Kong-like mission. If necessary I could post the Level1 prototype here.
I need help positioning the rollers properly.
Lack of slopes (90* or 45* "chipped" tiles) and "ropes"/"ladders" (climbable objects) hinders this, but I think I'm gonna try it anyway. I tried making a "stack" of balls, but it creates a major start delay.
I see it as a black tower, with a single tall pillar or stack of "steps" being both Left and Right sides.
Also, I have an idea - make width of towers changeable in LvlEd, being 16-64 with increment 4.
Last one: The character in this version makes me think of SUSE's Geeko, therefore Geeko, therefore the aforementioned mission could be named Geeko Strong.

[Toppler-general] Jumping

[Юрий К. <Yur...@ya...>]

Hi.
I find side+fire to be uncomfortable for jumping. Will the game ever have Jump as a separate button?
Both ENTER and SPACE act like a Fire key. Why not make SPACE a Jump key? This totally yucks me off.

[Toppler-general] 1.1.4

[Matthew C. <mc...@me...>]

I have just uploaded a file for 1.1.4.tar.gz.  

This release contains a number of patches, including a rewritten
input system that should fix the joystick issues and a number of
other small fixes.  It should look fairly similar from a user point
of view.  

Works on Linux and OS/X (aren't really set up to build or try on Windows
I'm afraid).

I'd appreciate people testing it.  Thanks.

Re: [Toppler-general] a few patches

[Matthew C. <mc...@me...>]

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 01:55:40AM +0200, Xavier Bachelot wrote:
> I've been preparing a toppler package for Fedora, and I had to fix/tweak
> a few things along the way. Here are the patches against latest release
> (1.1.3) along with some explanations:

Thanks for these!  I'm about to release a new version and will get them
in.
 

[Toppler-general] a few patches

[Xavier B. <xa...@ba...>]

Hi there,

I've been preparing a toppler package for Fedora, and I had to fix/tweak
a few things along the way. Here are the patches against latest release
(1.1.3) along with some explanations:

- toppler-1.1.3-create_hiscores_file.patch : Creating the highscores
file if it doesn't exist allows to not ship it in the package, and thus
preserve it across package update.

- toppler-1.1.3-fix_buffer_overflow_leveleditor_help.patch : Fixes a
buffer overflow when displaying the help menu in the level editor.

- toppler-1.1.3-fix_czech_locale.patch : Changes czech locale from cz to
cs (it seems already fixed in cvs).

- toppler-1.1.3-fix_highscore_lockfile_creation.patch : Specify a mode
when creating the highscores lock file.

- toppler-1.1.3-move_hiscores_to_own_dir.patch : The highscores dir
needs to be writable with random filenames, so it's better to have a
toppler specific dir.

I would be glad if these patches can be considered for inclusion in the
next release.

2 others things I've changed but not through patches :

- Some files are not encoded in UTF-8 (AUTHORS, ChangeLog, toppler.6).
It would be nice to convert them.

- The desktop file specifies the Application category, which is
deprecated and should be removed.

Regards,
Xavier

Re: [Toppler-general] Toppler eats RAM

[Matthew C. <mc...@me...>]

On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 09:42:05AM +0200, Matthias Rustler wrote:
> I'm trying to port Toppler 1.1.3 to AROS [1]. It works, but it eats RAM
> until it crashes.
> 
> Crash happens in scr_regensprites because SDL_CreateRGBSurface returns
> NULL which causes a NULL pointer dereferencing later.
> 
> It looks like the surfaces which are created in scr_regensprites aren't
> freed.
> 
> Additionally, I'm suggesting that the return value of
> SDL_CreateRGBSurface and other functions are checked for success.

Thanks for the bug report.  I'll take a look.  I have a pile of changes
I'm about to check in and I think I can fix these in that (aiming for a new
release in a month or so, summer got in the way).
 

[Toppler-general] Toppler eats RAM

[Matthias R. <mru...@gm...>]

Hi,

I'm trying to port Toppler 1.1.3 to AROS [1]. It works, but it eats RAM
until it crashes.

Crash happens in scr_regensprites because SDL_CreateRGBSurface returns
NULL which causes a NULL pointer dereferencing later.

It looks like the surfaces which are created in scr_regensprites aren't
freed.

Additionally, I'm suggesting that the return value of
SDL_CreateRGBSurface and other functions are checked for success.

Regards,
Matthias

[1] http://www.aros.org