Re: [Tikiwiki-devel] Quick opinion and warning :-)

[Jan D. <jan...@ti...>]

My point was that it would be easer to use names in tiki templates that uns=
ing=20
id's. I did not make any statements whether Id's should be used in the HTML=
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that is shown to the user/browser/robot. I.E. ther cpuld be a table that ma=
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names to ID's and I gues that this translation would be possibel to do when=
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Smarty parses the template with one of it's filtering modes (not sure now=20
wich). THis woudl ofcourse require an db-acces, but only when pages/modules=
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are updated.

I do not think that it is a very good idea for a user (user =3D=3D admin) t=
o be=20
able to access one object whith two different id's (name or number), since =
my=20
experience shows me that it is hard to keep those in sync and it will=20
eventually lead to mayhem.

=2D Best regards, Jan

On Wednesday 25 February 2004 01:48, James H. Thompson wrote:
> One of the advantages of id=3D1234 is that when you rename the page, poll=
  or
> whatever, the old URLs still work.
> Especially an advantage for pages that have been indexed by search engine=
s.
> Since its unlikely that everyone will agree which is the better solution,
> perhaps both could work, with an option to specify which to embed in
> generated pages.
>
>
> Jim
>
> James H. Thompson
> jh...@la...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jan Docekal" <jan...@ti...>
> To: <tik...@li...>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Tikiwiki-devel] Quick opinion and warning :-)
>
>
> Actually Id's is a pain in the proverbial but in other places. Wouldn't it
> be nice to have access to other features by name (e.g. {poll id=3Dbest_wi=
ki}
> or {rss id=3Dslashdot maximum=3D7} instead of {poll_id =3D9345} and {rss =
id=3D4536,
> maxiimum=3D7}
>
> Proofreading becomes so much simpler.
>
> just my 0.02 euro.
>
> -Jan
>
> On Tuesday 24 February 2004 19:08, Marc Laporte wrote:
> > Hi Luis,
> >
> > Thanks for this advice.
> >
> > I look forward to your active return.
> >
> > M ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Marc Laporte
> > http://tikiwiki.org/UserPagemarclaporte
> >
> > Luis Argerich wrote:
> > >Quick opinion:
> > >Please don't change page references to Ids, I know several tiki
> > >installations were users are already used to
> > > tiki-index.php?page=3Dsomething to quickly access pages they created =
even
> > > without bookmarking or making links.
> > >Using Ids -in my opinion- will destroy a lot of the magic in the wiki
> > >concept and I'm also afraid will break so many things that we'll never
> > > stop bugfixing things.
> > >
> > >And the warning:
> > >I have some features planned for 1.9 or 1.10 (maybe there's something
> > > before 2.0 hehe) so the dreaded code earthquakes may return.
> > >
> > >Luis
> > >
> > >
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