From: Duquette, W. H (318K) <wil...@jp...> - 2012-12-06 23:54:01
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Steve, On 12/6/12 3:13 PM, "Steve Landers" <st...@di...> wrote: > >On 07/12/2012, at 4:46 AM, "Duquette, William H (318K)" ><wil...@jp...> wrote: > >> A question for you (and the core team/maintainers in general): now that >> we've got the Wart Removal List, what's the next step for removing >>warts? >> Do these kinds of changes need to be TIP'd? > >I suggest (recommend, possibly insist) that for 9.0 the focus is on >performance and only remove those warts that hinder achieving it. And, >of course, excise other long-recognized warts such as Octal (can we >consider these as melanomas rather than warts) As I'm tracking the warts (and putative warts) rather than excising them myself, I asked the question out of curiosity, rather than out of a desire to get warts removed expeditiously. If, for example, the consensus was that the [foobar] command needed to be removed, and if a TIP were required, I could probably write the TIP so that someone else doesn't have to. If it's premature to think about that, it's premature. >That's not to say we shouldn't be having these discussions about wart >remove, just that we are in no rush to remove stuff, certainly before >recognizing the implications. To that end, [info sharelibextension], >[info library] and $::tcl_library are extensively used in tclkits to >achieve starkit (single file executable) support. Did any of the folk >recommending their removal / consolidation know that? That's one reason for the wart list: it's a way to track consensus, in a way that doesn't get lost in the tcl-core history. Just because something goes on the list doesn't mean that it's pre-destined for removal. >On 07/12/2012, at 5:59 AM, Brian Griffin <bri...@me...> wrote: > >> The basic assumption that the install location is known at build time >>is completely bogus. > >Starkits reinforces this. > >Again, I'm not against doing things better nor wart removal, I just want >to stress that the imperative in the short term is to get performance. >8.6 contains lots of new features, if 9.0 was nothing more than a faster >8.6 it'd still be a great release, and would provide incentive for many >people to move off 8.4. I'd love to see a faster Tcl; I'm not in a position to make Tcl faster. Perhaps there are maintainers in a similar position. The wart removal list, to the extent that the consensus is that an entry is a genuine wart, can serve as a list of targets of opportunity. Will > >Steve > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- >LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial >Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support >Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services >Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers >http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d >_______________________________________________ >Tcl-Core mailing list >Tcl...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-core |