Re: [TCLCORE] The Big TIP Round-Up! (#125 & #110)

[Jim I. <ji...@ap...>]

Brian,

On Dec 11, 2003, at 6:56 AM, Brian Griffin wrote:

>
>>    * *#125 "wm toplevel"* - Enables many cool things (tear-off-able
>>      toolbars, MDI) but I'm not sure about whether it can be made to
>>      work across all platforms.
>
> I would like to open discussion on this to see if there are any more 
> issues and then CFV in say 3-4 weeks.  As for the MAC platform, I am 
> planning on looking hard and this implementation in the next week, but 
> even failing an attempt to implement this for the MAC, I believe it's 
> still a reasonable addition because a) it's useful for implementing 
> common features found Win* and *nix and b) these same features are not 
> found on MAC.
>

Some of the Tk widgets are backed by Aqua Toolbox controls.  These 
controls are tied to the Aqua Window in which they are drawn.  To move 
controls from one Aqua window to another would require destroying the 
Aqua control, and then re-creating it in the new Aqua window you create 
for the frame.  There isn't currently a convenient way to do this, but 
it shouldn't be all that hard to do.  We don't store any state in the 
Aqua controls, and the Aqua Tk widgets are all designed to lazily 
create the Aqua controls when the widgets are first mapped.  So you 
should just have to walk down the widget hierarchy and unmake the Aqua 
controls, then mapping the frame into a new window should cause them 
all to get recreated.

Note that I have seldom seen Mac applications that do this sort of 
thing,

PhotoShop added the ability to move tabs in its tabbed palette windows 
from one palette to another.  This was actually pretty useful at times.

I think that some older versions of MS Word allowed you to drag 
toolbars off into palettes, but the Aqua version doesn't do this.  The 
palettes are just separate floating windows, and the documents are not 
adorned with a whole bunch of gadgetry...  I am not so moved by this 
use.

>>
>>
>> Other:
>>
>>    * *#110 "Tristate check/radiobuttons"* - Why is this targetted at 
>> Tk
>>      9.0?  Can't we have this for 8.5?
>
> You are right, I just need to get my butt in gear and implement this.  
> Again, I'd like to call for discussion then call for vote.

This one would be useful.

Jim
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