From: Will D. <wi...@wj...> - 2004-07-17 20:55:35
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On Jul 17, 2004, at 11:32 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion! Actually, I was just looking at Notebook and > agree that it does look good. What I especially like about it is that > the Notebook package looks like it might an excellent basis for a Tk > help system. I like the way you've implemented it in your own > application; has anyone else used nbook components as help widgets in > their apps? I really don't know. However, there's at least one open-source project (retroforth) that uses notebook for their documentation. > Also, for what it's worth, the generic starkit runs fine under Wishkit > in Tk Aqua, which is why I've been able to try it out. Looks good. I > can't get the main scripts to run under wish.app, however. A challenge > for another day! I figured it would work with Wishkit, but I haven't actually installed a version of TclTkAqua that has Wishkit yet. The source doesn't include all of the necessary libraries. Since you've got the starkit, you might just as well unpack it and go from their. Will > > > Will Duquette wrote: > > | Take a look at Notebook; you can download the source from > | > | http://www.wjduquette.com/notebook > | > | You'll have to download the source; there's an OS X starkit there, > | but it targets X11. > | > | Notebook isn't a perfect Aqua app; there have been a lot of bugfixes > | to TclTkAqua since I was last able to put any time in it, and there's > | a lot of polishing that I'd like to be able to do as well. But on > | the whole, I think it doesn't look too bad. > | > | Will > | > | > | On Jul 17, 2004, at 10:35 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote: > | > | As I continue to learn Tcl/Tk and look at the Tk Aqua documentation, > one > | thing I'd like to do is compile a list of the best-looking Tk > | applications under Tk Aqua. My criteria for "best-looking" is that > they > | look like OS X applications. A lot of Tk apps will run under Tk > Aqua, of > | course, but they generally aren't optimized for OS X out of the box. > | (Part of my goal is to look at the code of these apps to see what > they > | do to blend in well with the Aqua environment.) > | > | So far, my survey has turned up these apps: > | > | Coccinella (http://hem.fyristorg.com/matben), a Jabber client. > Superb > | GUI, a lot of custom-coding to make use of Tk Aqua stuff, like > MacCarbon > | printing. You really can't tell what toolkit was used to build it at > | all, which I guess is the best testament to its integration with OS > X. > | It seems to have a lot of platform-specific code throughout, for > | Windows, Mac, etc., to optimize for each platform. > | > | AMSN (http://amsn.sourceforge.net), an MSN Messenger client. Also a > | good looking application. A few small things don't adhere perfectly > to > | the HIG, like fonts on buttons, etc., but the GUI design shows a lot > of > | care in its construction overall. Also hard to tell what toolkit was > | used to design it. > | > | When I say you can't tell what toolkit was used, that's high praise, > | because some Tk apps, well, scream "Tk app!" and don't go much beyond > | the widget demos and the default. > | > | Even if an app doesn't use Tk-Aqua-specific stuff (and I don't think > | AMSN does a lot of this), I'm interested in how to use the Tk widgets > | thoughtfully to build sophisticated interfaces under Tk Aqua. > | > | Any other nominations? > | > | Kevin > | > | > |> > |> > - ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop > FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! > Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4721&alloc_id=10040&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > Tc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac > |> > |> > | ------------------------------------------------------------- > | will -at- wjduquette.com | Catch our weblog, > | http://foothills.wjduquette.com | The View from the Foothills > > - -- > Kevin Walzer, PhD > WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X > http://www.wordtech-software.com > http://www.smallbizmac.com > http://www.kevin-walzer.com > mailto:sw...@wo... > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFA+XDBF6m9qPmThLQRAsQkAJwK6wvt1YEYD33XkCZ6sCgllzOnOwCfWuHa > hfIBDMooKjK9w0TF2OTELEQ= > =DJOf > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ------------------------------------------------------------- will -at- wjduquette.com | Catch our weblog, http://foothills.wjduquette.com | The View from the Foothills |