Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] More on settings persistence

[F. C. <fab...@go...>]

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Matthew Gates <mat...@gm...> wrote:
> The way it is right now is not so good.  Consider this:
>
> 1 User opens view dialog
> 2 User turns on constellation art using dialog, leaves dialog open.
> 3 User turns off art using toolbar.
>
> Even though the setting is visible in the dialog, the last setting has not
> been saved to the config.ini
>
> If the order of steps 2 and 3 are reversed, the setting will be saved.
>
> I think this is confusing.
>
> There is an additional confusion in that all settings for the tab are saved
> if any option is altered.  This can be changed of course, but right now
> that is how it is implemented.

What I meant is that settings for both button bar and dialogs are
persistent, option by option.
In this case your scenario will be consistent. If we also decide that
each shortcut related to a visible button is persistent, it will make
it isn't it?

Fab

> Matthew

>
> On Tuesday 16 September 2008, Fabien Chéreau wrote:
>> After second thought, my current opinion is that it would be simpler
>> to make everything in the GUI persistent, and add some reset to
>> default buttons where needed.
>> The changes made with the shortcuts without GUI counterparts should
>> probably better not be persistent because people may have difficulties
>> to revert things set by mistake.
>> What do you think?
>> Fabien
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Matthew Gates <mat...@gm...>
> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday 16 September 2008, Fabien Chéreau wrote:
>> >> >> I'm just scared of making the view dialog into a mutant.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yeah, I agree.  We could make the save button a small one - perhaps
>> >> > with just a small save icon, and a tool tip to give a textual
>> >> > description of what it does.  Where to put it is still a problem
>> >> > though.
>> >>
>> >> I agree with Matthew on the idea of managing the config saving in the
>> >> config window. That said, the current testing save buttons on the SVN
>> >> are quite confusing, it's hard to tell on what they apply..
>> >> I don't see a great solution, the problem is difficult..
>> >> We need to make clear on which scope each save button apply. Maybe the
>> >> best is add a small discrete floppy disk icon at the side of every
>> >> option?
>> >
>> > Sounds weird, but it would be interesting to see how it might look.
>> >
>> > Another thing I thought of was maybe a small icon in the tab (next to
>> > the tab icon).  This could appear only when a setting is changed in the
>> > dialog with tooltip "save these settings" or something like that.  The
>> > scope there would be all settings in that tab.
>> >
>> > Other ideas (random, probably not good, but worth throwing them out in
>> > case anyone thinks they might work):
>> >
>> > * add a bar at the bottom of the dialog (for all tabs) with a save
>> > settings button, sort of like the KDE dialogs.  Maybe also a "restore
>> > defalts" button to balance the look.  I don't very much like this idea
>> > though - I think it would be too big, and a little ugly.
>> >
>> > * a context menu with a save settings option
>> >
>> > * a toolbar button to save all view settings
>> >
>> > * a separate tab in the dialog with buttons to save settings / restore
>> > defaults.
>> >
>> > * a save button at one end of the tab bar at the top of the dialog
>> >
>> > * an OSX-like side panel to the dialog (I really don't like this idea)
>> >
>> >
>> > Matthew
>> >
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