From: David L. <leo...@gm...> - 2013-04-12 16:27:56
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It seems to me that (although adding functionality to SMW is a good thing), it is not a document/content management system and trying to make it one is "swimming against the river". Functionality like document check-in/out, document user groups and such break the Wiki model at its core. Sharepoint (open source vs. propitiatory issues aside) is great at what it does, as is SMW. They were just never conceived to do the same thing. If you need to turn a screw, pick up a screwdriver. If you need to pound a nail pick up a hammer. They both qualify has "hand tools" (much as Sharepoint and SMW both qualifyas "Sematic Web tools"), but they are not meant to solve the same problems. That said, it would be nice, at least for my selfish purposes, if more granular edit ownership, was simpler to achieve. Dave On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Jamie Thingelstad <ja...@th...>wrote: > The media management aspects of MediaWiki (uploading and finding files) is > a huge weakpoint that I continually struggle with new users on. For those > of you that follow the WordPress platform, they've made some great strides > in this area recently (drag and drop upload, multiple files handled easily, > nice navigator). I'd love to see some of this innovation come into > MediaWiki in the future. > > BTW, the ability to search in a document is an interesting one and one > that could possibly be easily hacked into MediaWiki. It would be fairly > simple to write a bot that scanned files for certain document types, then > process them through a tool like pandoc, and take the resultant wikitext > back to the file wiki page. > Jamie Thingelstad > ja...@th... > mobile: 612-810-3699 > find me on AIM Twitter Facebook LinkedIn > > On Apr 12, 2013, at 4:42 AM, Krabina Bernhard <kr...@kd...> wrote: > > > - bugs in document uploads on MW installations on windows machines (some > kind of php bug on windows) > > - drag&drop document upload > > - ability to enhance the upload form (especially with semantic > information, I am aware of this: > http://smw.referata.com/wiki/Simple_Semantic_File_Management but it > really seems very basic...) > > - ability to search in document content as well (can be done with some > lucene installations, but is not straigtforward) > > - document check in/check out > > - one easy but annoying thing: I'd like to be able to use the text in > the field "Summary:" in the MW upload dialogue > > - semantic querying of documents: it would be great if all information > of Special:ListFiles would be available via properties - this could be a > job for a nice SemanticFileManagement extension :-) > > > > regards, > > Bernhard > > > > ----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- > >> Hi Bernhard, what document features do you have in mind that would > >> improve SMW in this area? > >> > >> Ad > >> > >> On 12 april 2013, at 08:36, Krabina Bernhard <kr...@kd...> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I don't think that SMW and SharePoint are real contestors. From my > >>> point of view, SMW has a clear advantage if content is king > >>> (content that usually resides in documents should be brought to a > >>> wiki without the need for the documents). SharePoint is probably > >>> one possible solution if you need a document management system. If > >>> you can't get rid of your documents and have to manage them better > >>> than in the filsystem, go for a document management system (and > >>> look at Alfresco etc. before you look at Sharepoing :-), if you > >>> can manage to get rid of the documents and manage the content, go > >>> for SMW. > >>> > >>> just my 2 cents. > >>> > >>> By the way, this brings me to an interesting point: I think in > >>> spite of the above mentioned, SMW would clearly benefit from > >>> better document management features (most of which would mean to > >>> improve MW itself, not SMW)! > >>> > >>> -Bernhard > >>> > >>> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- > >>>> Some of my customers use SharePoint and are interested in the SMW > >>>> solutions I propose. So they want to know if the same is possible > >>>> in > >>>> their SharePoint environment. Probably sounds familiar to some of > >>>> you. > >>>> > >>>> Based on the information from the WikiWorks site (thanks Yaron!) I > >>>> created a comparison. I'm not very confident that the information > >>>> is > >>>> extremely accurate since I know SharePoint only as a (power) > >>>> enduser. > >>>> > >>>> My proposal is to create a page on the SMW site with the > >>>> comparison. > >>>> From the main page there should be a link to the page, e.g. in the > >>>> 'More about Semantic MediaWiki' section. > >>>> > >>>> Is there support for this idea and would there be support for > >>>> improving the content? And could someone create the link on the > >>>> main > >>>> page? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks! Ad > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > >>>> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for > >>>> building > >>>> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use > >>>> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. 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