Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Random sort in #ask

[Jack D. P. <jac...@ps...>]

I found this when I was doing a concept patch for format=tables - the #
parameter exists in lists and in the proposed patch for tables under
http://wiki.montcopa.org/TestWiki/index.php?title=Advanced_Table_Formatting_
for_SMW_Queries, but I only found it because I was patching.

I documented it here
(http://wiki.montcopa.org/TestWiki/index.php?title=Advanced_Table_Formatting
_for_SMW_Queries#Parameters_Passed_to_Table_Row_Templates), but found no
other documentation for it.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Markus Krötzsch [mailto:ma...@se...] 
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:33 PM
> To: sem...@li...
> Cc: Daniel Friesen
> Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Random sort in #ask
> 
> On Freitag, 1. Januar 2010, Daniel Friesen wrote:
> > I've taken to the less lazy tactic of making postings to 
> the mailing 
> > list hoping someone else who is better at writing will do the 
> > documentation ;).
> > 
> > Hmmm... maybe I missed one. Is my feature of the {{{#}}} 
> variable in 
> > #ask templates documented?
> 
> Look as if the person who documented it is not on this list, 
> or it is not documented anywhere yet. I don't recall that feature.
> 
> -- Markus
> 
> > 
> > ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) 
> > [http://daniel.friesen.name]
> > 
> > Markus Krötzsch wrote:
> > > Dear developers,
> > >
> > > I came across the "hidden feature" of random sorting again today 
> > > when I cleaned up the related code and fixed various 
> issues that it still had.
> > > It was impossible to disable this performance-critical feature in 
> > > SMW, although a global variable had been introduced for 
> that purpose 
> > > (it was never used)!
> > >
> > > I traced back the code and found that it had been 
> committed based on 
> > > a patch that was submitted to Bugzilla (not blaming 
> anyone here, the 
> > > committer may even have notified one of us core devs to check the 
> > > code ...). Obviously, the code was not properly reviewed 
> or tested, 
> > > and the feature was not documented until recently. We 
> should really 
> > > try to avoid such cases in the future. Especially, any Bugzilla 
> > > patch should be reviewed by a developer who is familiar with the 
> > > affected code before being committed. I know that it can be 
> > > tempting: someone offers a patch for adding a long-wanted 
> feature, 
> > > and it is so easy to just commit it without further ado -- 
> > > unfortunately we need to resist this kind of temptation ;-).
> > >
> > > Since we are heading toward SMW 1.5, I would also like to ask all 
> > > SMW- committers to double-check that all new features that you 
> > > committed in the past months are mentioned in the file 
> > > RELEASE-NOTES, and documented on semantic-mediawiki.org. It is 
> > > really a pity if useful features go unnoticed simply because we 
> > > forget to go that final mile of documenting them properly.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your support,
> > >
> > > Markus
> > >
> > > On Freitag, 11. Dezember 2009, Philipp Zaltenbach wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I have updated the documentation at semantic-mediawiki.org. See
> > >> * 
> > >> 
> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Inline_queries#Sorting_resu
> > >> lts
> > >> * 
> > >> 
> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Configuration#Query_setting
> > >> s
> > >>
> > >> It would be nice if anyone could double check.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Philipp
> > >>
> > >> Patrick Nagel schrieb:
> > >>> Hi Alex,
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2009-12-11 01:38 UTC Alex Kozak wrote:
> > >>>> I'm wondering if there is a way to do a random sort in #ask 
> > >>>> queries (maybe with something like order=random), and 
> if not, if 
> > >>>> anyone has any ideas on how to accomplish this (sanely) with 
> > >>>> templates and parsers?
> > >>>
> > >>> Did you try 'order=random'? It should work in current versions, 
> > >>> but for an unknown reason it's currently not documented on 
> > >>> semantic-mediawiki.org.
> > >>>
> > >>> See http://old.nabble.com/Random-Sort-in-SMW-1.4-td20670044.html
> > >>>
> > >>> Patrick.