Re: [Semediawiki-user] Multiple languages

[Alex K. <ak...@cr...>]

Thank you David and Temlakos for the very helpful comments.

As far as I can tell, these solutions still have the problem of multiple
forms. For example, you can't have one common form but in different
languages so that any change to the structure of the form gets updated in
each language version. I'm still interested in trying to solve that problem.

- Alex

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:50 AM, david <dv...@en...> wrote:

> Hi, I'm working right now in a wiki like this. I don't have solutions
> for all yet.
>
> 'HKp wiki' is  a bilingual (potentially multilingual) spanish-catalan
> wiki in the same installation.
> http://enlloc.net/hkp/w
>
> I'm using Polyglot extension [1] to redirect to appropriate language
> pages depending on the browser language settings or the user wiki
> settings.
>
> I'm using Language Selector extension [2] for providing a language
> selector for every page in the sidebar.
>
> I wanted to use the Multilang extension [3] for changing the language in
> pages and forms depending on the user settings. But unfortunately this
> extension don't work in MW higher of 1.10.
>
> Alternatively I'm using the {{international}} template [4]. It is useful
> for pages and templates but not for forms because it need a
> {{SUBPAGENAME}} with language code (/ca, /es, /en, /fr, /pt, ...).
>
> I'm using my own code in templates [5] to show or hide a "translation
> button" depending if the translation page exist or not:
>
> {{#ifeq:{{SUBPAGENAME}}|es|
> {{exists | page={{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/ca | then= | else=
> <p style="margin-top:2em; color: rgb(100, 100,
> 100)">'''Traducción'''<br>[[Categoria:Per traduir al Castellà]]
> <small>Esta página aún no está en catalán. Quieres colaborar a
> traducirla?</small></p>
> {{#formlink:Entrada Wlog traduir ca|Traducir al catalán|button|
> preload={{FULLPAGENAME}}&Gestió traduccions[pàgina
> original]={{BASEPAGENAME}}&Entrada Wlog[llengua
> entrada]=es&namespace=Wlog }}
> }}
> }}
>
> Right now I have not solution for having only one form for all
> languages. What is annoying.
> If Multilang worked for new MW versions it would serve for the forms.
>
> I'm studing how to match same properties and same values in different
> languages as you say. I do not have a solution yet.
> Philipp Zaltenbach, Temlakos and Yaron Koren have proposed different
> aproaches some time ago in this list [6] that I am taking into account.
>
> [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Polyglot
> [2] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LanguageSelector
> [3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multilang
> [4] http://enlloc.net/hkp/w/index.php/Plantilla:International
> [5] http://enlloc.net/hkp/w/index.php/Plantilla:Entrada_Wlog
> [6] Thread: [Semediawiki-user] multilingual SMW+SF wiki - Thu, 23 Jul
> 2009 09:45:00 +0200
>
> El dl 28 de 09 de 2009 a les 17:17 -0700, en/na Alex Kozak va escriure:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone out there had really good examples of an
> > international SMW instance with multiple languages, including
> > properties and forms.
> >
> > I am interested in methods for maintaining a form's structure and
> > array mappings in a centralized location, but allowing things like the
> > form name, template call, content, etc. to be in different languages.
> > This way, one could maintain a single form but allow those changes to
> > propagate among the language versions.
> >
> > And I'm interested in the same thing with properties... as in,
> > allowing different properties in the wiki to be equated with each
> > other but containing different text. For example, [[prop1::x]] is the
> > same as [[prop2:y]], since the meaning of prop1 is the same as prop 2
> > and the meaning of x is the same as y (but are just expressed with
> > different characters). Any thoughts or insights on internationalizing
> > the mechanics of SMW are appreciated.
> >
> > - Alex
> >
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> >
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