From: <fr...@fr...> - 2009-09-30 12:59:08
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Hi to *, this discussion is getting me a little paranoid and a lot interested into understanding the issue. I'm from EU and I thought there where no restrictions in EU about this things, except of course if you use audio material that is covered by copyright( no I won't stream metallica aceofbase and this kind of stuff) but now I'm getting a bit worried and I'd like to understand, I am a volunteer for 2 radios, one that is part of a project/campaign for il/legal migrants and one for a hacklab that actually was the first italian web radio ever. Both are having 2 streams, one ogg and one mp3, the content of both the radio is licenced under CC and when we need music we use it from jamendo or original tracks from underground artists with written permissions from them. Before going further I need to know if one day there will be "some lawyer" going to knok at our doors asking fees for the mp3 streaming. I think I will consider dropping the mp3 streaming and use some flash-odd app on a webpage for people that have no idea how to install ogg codecs in theyre favorite media player. sorry for entering your discussion guys, I'm really ignorant about audio/video licences but I know the differences between apache/bsd/gpl licences for example, and it whould be a nightmare for at least the migrants project to get a fine that nobody could pay. Thanks in advance for clearance and to the dev's thanks you guys again for liquidsoap, you rock! \o/ fruity | / \ >>I've been to the US Congress two times to speak with legislators and > >>ploticians about imternet broadcasting royalties, provided written > >>testimony for hearings , and gathered thousands of signatures from > >>small broadcasters on letters to Congress. The first time we had > >>amazing cosponsorship for a new bill that SoundExcanged made an offer > >>inexchamge to stop lobbying. That particular bill didnt make it, but > >>there several other in varying stages of legislature. Change is > >>comimg, but it's slow and you have to put in a lot of work in your own > >>country too. The major labels are international so we fight the same. > > > > This is inspiring. I actually spoke to a terrestial broadcaster earlier > this afternoon and he told me to fight this. I spoke with a lawyer who > wasn't familiar with SoundExchange and when I finished telling her > specifically how SoundExchange works, the words that came out of her mouth > "Bullshit! That sounds like a fucking scam!" (dead serious this is > word-for-word what my lawyer said). After writing a letter to a partner > that helps me manage the radio explaining the situation, I came to realize > that this is not right. Its the major industries scared of how the future > of Internet radio will affect their business models. While they are > trying to stop the giant internet broadcasters from destroying them, they > are hurting all the little guys :-( It sucks for me because the radio was > initially made for local DJs to make their mixes and let everyone on the > community listen to it and provide feedback. I later added live shows and > added another valuable element to the community - the ability for new DJs > to practice djing live while many people are listening. This is all a > service to the community and I think this should be faught. If only I > knew how to fight this and who to talk to...and had time to :-( > > > >>Just rember this, Dont give up a real opportunity because of a bad > >>contract. There are far more unlicensed > >>Webcasters (shoutcast.com) than licensed. So you could choose to be in > >>the Majority, or take one of the deals and do the best you can to > >>honor it. > > > > Really? Hmm, isn't shoutcast.com just a website for others to list their > streams they run through their shoutcast program? Or is shoutcast > actually teh source of broadcasting? > > > >> To date a webcaster has not been sued, file traders have though. > > > > Hmmm....if this is true it makes me rethink my situation :-) My real > concerns are 1) having SoundExchange come after me for royalties and 2) > being forced to pay retroactively. > > > > I am going to google this and see what I can find. If Soundexchange > really hasn't been going after people and there really are large companies > not registered to them, this kinda chnages things for me. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register > now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf_______________________________________________ > Savonet-users mailing list > Sav...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/savonet-users > |