Re: [ruby-gnome2-devel-en] Release manager

[Sjoerd S. <sj...@lu...>]

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:28:44PM +0900, Kouhei Sutou wrote:
>  (* Ruby/GStreamer: Worked with GStreamer >= 0.10.x but doesn't
>     completed yet.)

I just checked out the new ruby-gnome2 from SVN to see what my bindings needed
to change to work with them.. Only to discover that suddenly and completely
seperate from my ruby-gstreamer0.10 bindings the Ruby/GStreamer stuff has been
updated to 0.10...

This is a big WASTE of effort. It seems they have mostly redone the work i
already did a few years ago. Now i don't really care if other people waste
their time, but i don't like to waste my time on doing the same things as
others.

Having two seperate gstreamer 0.10 bindings is just ridicoulous and stupid. Not
only is it bad for users (2 bindings, which one should be used). It again
wastes developer effort (which we're already short on), and  the new updated
bindings are likely to repeat bugs that i've fixed a long time ago in mine. I
had a quick look in the source and i can easily point out various issues that i
fixed a long time ago.

IMHO we should get the two efforts merged ASAP (There should be only ever have
been one effort in the first place, but oh well).. What was the rationale of
doings this anyways, i'm pretty sure people know about my bindings. And i'd hope
the ruby-gnome2 team doesn't have NIH syndrome.

Now i've initially done my bindings outside of the main tree because of various
reasons discussed a long long time ago. The main reason for that still exists,
i think it's very bad from a release management pov. that all the modules are
tied together. Releasing everything as seperate lean packages has the advantage
of making releases much easier to do and much less effort for distributions.
Unless that's changed my opinion will stay the same: I think that it is in
the gstreamer bindings best interest to keep seperate from the main bunch.

If we can change to a more sane releases and release everything as
seperate package, i'm happy to merge my bindings back into the main repository.
In which case i guess i'll just have to live with the sf's horrible bugtracking
system (unless we move to gnome, hint hint). If not, then oh well, that's live.
but we should stop wasting eachothers time by doing the same work and find some
middleground to get stuff merged.

Very much unamused,
  Sjoerd
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