From: Nikola P. <piz...@ne...> - 2005-01-13 13:10:43
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I'm using Rox on Ubuntu Hoary. (Rox Session, xfwm4). Now, everything works great (blazing fast) except two things: 1. automounting doesn't work, although I configured it in Mount app. =20 dbus and hald are running, but pluging usb thumb drive or CD doesn't =20 automount them. Only solution is to start gnome-volume-manager, but it =20 starts Nautilus, I want Filer window to open. 2. Startup notification is not working. If I launch an application, I =20 have no visual indicator that it's loading or not (no buisy cursor). BTW, Rox flies on my old dual celeron at 2X450Mhz. It's almost like =20 BeOS :-) Nikola |
From: Guido S. <__g...@we...> - 2005-01-13 18:54:44
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Nikola Pizurica schrieb: > I'm using Rox on Ubuntu Hoary. (Rox Session, xfwm4). > Now, everything works great (blazing fast) except two things: > 1. automounting doesn't work, although I configured it in Mount app. > dbus and hald are running, but pluging usb thumb drive or CD doesn't > automount them. Only solution is to start gnome-volume-manager, but > it starts Nautilus, I want Filer window to open. Do you mean http://roxos.sunsite.dk/dev-contrib/guido/Configure/Mount-0.5.tar.bz2 ? My stuff. Sorry, I had a ROX development sabbatical Nov/Dez. This was left unfinished. It's just a GUI without support from ROX. So it's true it does nothing. I sent a (non-working) patch against ROX-Session, but Thomas Leonard thinks (as I understand) it should be a stand-alone daemon like gnome-volume-manager. I think it should go into ROX-Filer, where as an added bonus it could serve to present different mime-icons depending on media type e.g. Audio CD, DVD etc. Now we only have a generic mount-point icon, which the user can override manually for each mount-point. I think that's a poor solution. But I don't run the show. PS: Have you compiled Mount yourself or is this - shock horror! - packaged for Ubuntu? If it is please contact the maintainer so he removes it. This is pre-alpha! > 2. Startup notification is not working. If I launch an application, I > have no visual indicator that it's loading or not (no buisy cursor). > > BTW, Rox flies on my old dual celeron at 2X450Mhz. It's almost like > BeOS :-) Yes, ROX-Filer doesn't implement the startup-notification protocol. |
From: Nikola P. <piz...@ne...> - 2005-01-13 19:43:10
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On 01/14/05 19:54:23, Guido Schimmes wrote: you mean > http://roxos.sunsite.dk/dev-contrib/guido/Configure/Mount-0.5.tar.bz2 ? Yes. >=20 > My stuff. Sorry, I had a ROX development sabbatical Nov/Dez. This was =20 > left unfinished. It's just a GUI without support from ROX. OK, I thought something was borked on my side :-) > Have you compiled Mount yourself or is this - shock horror! - =20 > packaged for Ubuntu? If it is please contact the maintainer so he =20 > removes it. This is pre-alpha! I've compiled it myself. I like to test pre-alpha stuff :-) > Yes, ROX-Filer doesn't implement the startup-notification protocol. > Any plans to include it? It is realy usefull stuff..... Nikola |
From: Lars H. <la...@un...> - 2005-01-14 04:03:39
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Guido Schimmes wrote: > My stuff. Sorry, I had a ROX development sabbatical Nov/Dez. This was > left unfinished. It's just a GUI without support from ROX. So it's true > it does nothing. I sent a (non-working) patch against ROX-Session, but > Thomas Leonard thinks (as I understand) it should be a stand-alone > daemon like gnome-volume-manager. I agree with Thomas here, ROX_Filer shouldnt be bloated with HAL code. > I think it should go into ROX-Filer, where as an added bonus it could > serve to present different mime-icons depending on media type e.g. Audio > CD, DVD etc. This could still be accomplished. For example, the mount-daemon/rox-volume-manager/whatever could just dynamically create appdirs that corresponds to mountpoints. These could be put in Choices/Mount/Volumes (or something) and be made to appear on the desktop if ROX-Filer supported adding desktop icons using dbus or xml-rpc. --- Lars Hansson |
From: Guido S. <__g...@we...> - 2005-01-15 13:55:55
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Lars Hansson schrieb: > Guido Schimmes wrote: > >> My stuff. Sorry, I had a ROX development sabbatical Nov/Dez. This was >> left unfinished. It's just a GUI without support from ROX. So it's >> true it does nothing. I sent a (non-working) patch against >> ROX-Session, but Thomas Leonard thinks (as I understand) it should be >> a stand-alone daemon like gnome-volume-manager. > > > I agree with Thomas here, ROX_Filer shouldnt be bloated with HAL > code. What sets ROX apart for me is, that it is has low resource requirements, while still being a full-featured desktop environment. It's not one of those spartan hardcore geek DE's/window-managers. The more external services you add, the heavier it is getting when you want all the features. I don't want to see ROX heading in this direction. The gnome-vfs mime handling is ***much *** worse in the bloat department than a (compile time optional) libhal dependency. I don't see how knowing about mime-types and document formats through gnome-vfs is adequate, but the equivalent for mount-points/device-types is not. >> I think it should go into ROX-Filer, where as an added bonus it could >> serve to present different mime-icons depending on media type e.g. >> Audio CD, DVD etc. > > > This could still be accomplished. For example, the > mount-daemon/rox-volume-manager/whatever could just dynamically create > appdirs that corresponds to mountpoints. These could be put in > Choices/Mount/Volumes (or something) and be made to appear on the > desktop if ROX-Filer supported adding desktop icons using dbus or > xml-rpc. Adding/removing items to pinboard/panel via SOAP has been added recently. I've thought of this too. This is nice for removable media. On the other hand filesystem abstractions are not the ROX way. It would be nice if the mount points could be looked at through ROX-Filer directly in a nicer way too. Choosing device icons manually is OK as an option (though icon themes already take care of it), but shouldn't be required. For this ROX-Filer needs to be able to figure out the devices/media behind the mount-points. libhal is just the cleanest way to do that. Nautilus and Konqueror can do this forever. No idea how they do it. I suppose it's a bunch of messy hand-hacked code. Anyway, I'm working on a stand-alone mount-daemon now. It's just easier to debug at the moment. |