From: Graham B. <gr...@mo...> - 2002-09-25 07:48:11
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Oops - I seem to have sent my reply directly to Biju by mistake. Here it is again... Biju Chacko <bij...@vs...> writes: > "Thou shalt edit text with Vim. Thou shalt have no other editors but > it. Emacs, particularly, is a wile of the devil and shall leadeth > the unwary to sin, confusion and worn out Ctrl keys" I'm desperate for a proper GTK-based text editor. I've tried both XEmacs and Gvim (Vim in GUI mode), and while both are powerful text editors, they both have many shortcomings when trying to use them in a window-based environment. Gvim, for example, can't handle multiple windows on the desktop: you either have to have a single window and do it the MDI way, or else run a separate process for each window (which means you lose lots of Vim's flexibility). It's a big pain in the bum. What I really want is a port of Zap from RISC OS. It's almost three years since I abandoned RISC OS for Linux, but in all that time I still haven't managed to find a text editor which comes close to Zap's combination of power and friendliness. Thomas: ROX-Filer is good enough. Time to let it lie, and give us a text editor as well. :-) -- Graham Borland gr...@mo... |
From: Delcides F. S. J. <df...@uo...> - 2002-09-25 14:40:14
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* Marcin Juszkiewicz (ma...@am...) wrote: > On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 10:20:20AM +0200, Karol Krenski wrote: > > > Thomas: ROX-Filer is good enough. Time to let it lie, and give us a > > > text editor as well. :-) > > Yeah, I can't think of anything more that I'd need from rox. What are > > the future plans? > > wishlist: > - panels with selectable height and scalable icons > - all command line options in Options (like -o at now) > - sort patch included in upstream version (just like in my Debian rox-cvs) > - marking as appdirs directories with AppInfo.xml instead of AppRun > - shadowed font on pinboard > And the ability to _display_ ( not highlight as of now) only files whose name match a certain pattern, like "s[a-e]*.htm". Very useful when you have dirs with tons of files. Cheers, Delcides F. Sousa Jr. Linux User #234033 PGP fingerprint 74BC DA2F 7EAB CCED DF85 17A9 DBDD 0F77 CEE5 1D2B Key Server wwwkeys.pgp.net |
From: Gregory S. <gs...@fr...> - 2002-09-25 15:08:05
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On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Delcides F. Sousa Jr wrote: > And the ability to _display_ ( not highlight as of now) only files > whose name match a certain pattern, like "s[a-e]*.htm". > Very useful when you have dirs with tons of files. > This isn't too difficult if you use filesystems that allow symlinks: http://freefall.homeip.net/ROXFilter Yet another example of how the simplicity of ROX-Filer is what makes it so powerful and customizable. --g -- Gregory Spath gs...@fr... http://freefall.homeip.net/ |
From: Marcin J. <ma...@am...> - 2002-09-25 15:18:36
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 11:05:45AM -0400, Gregory Spath wrote: > On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Delcides F. Sousa Jr wrote: > > And the ability to _display_ ( not highlight as of now) only files > > whose name match a certain pattern, like "s[a-e]*.htm". > This isn't too difficult if you use filesystems that allow symlinks: > > http://freefall.homeip.net/ROXFilter http://freefall.homeip.net/code/ROXFilter/ :) but this is workaround. -- Marcin 'Szczepan|Hrw' Juszkiewicz mailto: marcin<at>amiga<dot>pl my Debian packages: deb http://users.stone.pl/szczepan/ apt/ |
From: Marcin J. <ma...@am...> - 2002-09-25 15:13:47
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 11:34:27AM -0300, Delcides F. Sousa Jr wrote: > * Marcin Juszkiewicz (ma...@am...) wrote: > > wishlist: > > - panels with selectable height and scalable icons > > - all command line options in Options (like -o at now) > > - sort patch included in upstream version (just like in my Debian rox-cvs) > > - marking as appdirs directories with AppInfo.xml instead of AppRun > > - shadowed font on pinboard > > > And the ability to _display_ ( not highlight as of now) only files > whose name match a certain pattern, like "s[a-e]*.htm". and let it be placed in toolbar as some kind of ComboEditList Few other things which came to my mind: - (taken from MS Windows Explorer) - ComboEditListTree in toolbar - possibility to enter URIs as path (all those ftp://, smbfs://) - maybe using gnome-vfs2? - some kind of archives support other then "Open AVFS" - possibility to switch places of toolbar icons. - let 'Help' button in toolbar show Manual-<LANG>.html not APPDIR/Help directory. - add something like "helpdir" location into AppInfo.xml - I don't like all those AppRuns, appdir/Help things because they are not Unix-like but RISC-OS things which I (and not only I) found unusable (part of it I already removed from m rox-cvs package and some is waiting) -- Marcin 'Szczepan|Hrw' Juszkiewicz mailto: marcin<at>amiga<dot>pl my Debian packages: deb http://users.stone.pl/szczepan/ apt/ |
From: Gregory S. <gs...@fr...> - 2002-09-25 15:21:28
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On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > Few other things which came to my mind: > > - (taken from MS Windows Explorer) - ComboEditListTree in toolbar No thanks. I don't think ROX should copy stuff from windoze just because. Keeping a light, efficient, logical interface should remain the goal > - possibility to enter URIs as path (all those ftp://, smbfs://) - > maybe using gnome-vfs2? No thanks. ROX is a file manager, not a web browser. If you want that stuff, use mime types for rox objects, or put something in your 'sendto', or just have a command that you can easily launch from rox's command bar. --g -- Gregory Spath gs...@fr... http://freefall.homeip.net/ |
From: John P. <jo...@xl...> - 2002-09-25 17:03:26
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In a previous message, Gregory Spath wrote: > On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > > > - (taken from MS Windows Explorer) - ComboEditListTree in toolbar > > No thanks. I don't think ROX should copy stuff from windoze just because. > Keeping a light, efficient, logical interface should remain the goal IIUC, I think that this is valuable addition. In RISC OS land, I find Director invaluable partly because it offers a drop-down tree listing of the current directory. Makes navigating nested directories much easier and faster. And it's nothing like Windows Explorer - just a menu for opening Directories or running files. > > - possibility to enter URIs as path (all those ftp://, smbfs://) - > > maybe using gnome-vfs2? > > No thanks. ROX is a file manager, not a web browser. Absolutely agree here, though - we don't want the ROX filer turning into Nautilus, surely? John -- John Pettigrew XL Cambridge - contract and freelance editing Biology specialist Molecular biology, genetics, biotechnology jo...@xl... http://www.xl-cambridge.com/ PGP public key available |
From: Marcin J. <ma...@am...> - 2002-09-26 06:00:24
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 11:19:02AM -0400, Gregory Spath wrote: > On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > > - (taken from MS Windows Explorer) - ComboEditListTree in toolbar > > No thanks. I don't think ROX should copy stuff from windoze just because. > Keeping a light, efficient, logical interface should remain the goal Having possibility to fast move by system is useful (at least for me). > > - possibility to enter URIs as path (all those ftp://, smbfs://) - > > maybe using gnome-vfs2? > > No thanks. ROX is a file manager, not a web browser. Many filemanagers have ftp support today. > If you want that stuff, use mime types for rox objects, or put > something in your 'sendto', or just have a command that you can easily > launch from rox's command bar. At now I use Midnight Commander for it - enchancing ROX by scripts etc. is not what I want to do. -- Marcin 'Szczepan|Hrw' Juszkiewicz mailto: marcin<at>amiga<dot>pl my Debian packages: deb http://users.stone.pl/szczepan/ apt/ |
From: Marcin J. <ma...@am...> - 2002-09-26 06:05:48
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And one more suggestion - this came from one of my friends. DirectoryOpus5/AmigaOS (and DirectoryOpus6/MS Windows) allow to set action after doubleclick on desktop. Does ROX-Filer can open new window (maybe with $HOME in it) after double (lmb) click on pinboard? -- Marcin 'Szczepan|Hrw' Juszkiewicz mailto: marcin<at>amiga<dot>pl my Debian packages: deb http://users.stone.pl/szczepan/ apt/ |
From: Thomas L. <ta...@ec...> - 2002-10-22 11:13:04
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 08:05:41AM +0200, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > > And one more suggestion - this came from one of my friends. > > DirectoryOpus5/AmigaOS (and DirectoryOpus6/MS Windows) allow to set > action after doubleclick on desktop. Does ROX-Filer can open new window > (maybe with $HOME in it) after double (lmb) click on pinboard? You can set a keyboard short-cut, but not a double click action. Eg, CTRL-Tab opens my home directory. (of course, you can open your home directory with two clicks from anywhere on the pinboard using the menu ;-) -- Thomas Leonard http://rox.sourceforge.net ta...@ec... ta...@us... GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1 |
From: Marcin J. <ma...@am...> - 2002-10-22 12:06:36
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 12:09:44PM +0100, Thomas Leonard wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 08:05:41AM +0200, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > > DirectoryOpus5/AmigaOS (and DirectoryOpus6/MS Windows) allow to set > > action after doubleclick on desktop. Does ROX-Filer can open new window > > (maybe with $HOME in it) after double (lmb) click on pinboard? > (of course, you can open your home directory with two clicks from anywhere > on the pinboard using the menu ;-) Ok - so the question is: Is it possible to catch doubliclick on pinboard or root-window in some kind? -- Marcin 'Szczepan|Hrw' Juszkiewicz mailto: marcin<at>amiga<dot>pl my Debian packages: deb http://users.stone.pl/szczepan/ apt/ |
From: Thomas L. <ta...@ec...> - 2002-10-31 15:35:54
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 02:06:10PM +0200, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 12:09:44PM +0100, Thomas Leonard wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 08:05:41AM +0200, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > > > > DirectoryOpus5/AmigaOS (and DirectoryOpus6/MS Windows) allow to set > > > action after doubleclick on desktop. Does ROX-Filer can open new window > > > (maybe with $HOME in it) after double (lmb) click on pinboard? > > > (of course, you can open your home directory with two clicks from anywhere > > on the pinboard using the menu ;-) > > Ok - so the question is: Is it possible to catch doubliclick on pinboard > or root-window in some kind? You can modify bind.c to catch it, as is done for double-clicking in filer windows. I think it would make an ugly option, though, except as a personal patch... -- Thomas Leonard http://rox.sourceforge.net ta...@ec... ta...@us... GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1 |
From: John P. <jo...@xl...> - 2002-09-26 12:14:54
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In a previous message, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > > No thanks. ROX is a file manager, not a web browser. > > Many filemanagers have ftp support today. The point is, though, that ftp isn't a job for a file manager but for an ftp client. Of which there are many good ones. Why duplicate gFTP (or whatever) in the filer? John -- John Pettigrew XL Cambridge - contract and freelance editing Biology specialist Molecular biology, genetics, biotechnology jo...@xl... http://www.xl-cambridge.com/ PGP public key available |
From: Lars H. <la...@un...> - 2002-09-26 13:22:29
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On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:14:40 +0100 John Pettigrew <jo...@xl...> wrote: > The point is, though, that ftp isn't a job for a file manager but for an ftp > client. Of which there are many good ones. Why duplicate gFTP (or whatever) > in the filer? I can sort of see the point of ftp and, say, dav in the Filer since those are actually used for managing files. As long as it's not about rendering web pages or presenting html views of the filesystem or some such nonsense. Then again, I'm perfectly happy even without ftp or dav in the Filer. --- Lars Hansson |
From: Michael M. <mi...@th...> - 2002-09-26 13:40:27
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>On 26/09/02, from the brain of Lars Hansson tumbled: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:14:40 +0100 > John Pettigrew <jo...@xl...> wrote: > > > The point is, though, that ftp isn't a job for a file manager but for an ftp > > client. Of which there are many good ones. Why duplicate gFTP (or whatever) > > in the filer? > > I can sort of see the point of ftp and, say, dav in the Filer since those are > actually used for managing files. As long as it's not about rendering web pages > or presenting html views of the filesystem or some such nonsense. > Then again, I'm perfectly happy even without ftp or dav in the Filer. > I agree with Lars. It's the web browser imitation we want to avoid. Allowing access to files via ftp and dav thru ROX would just be keeoing pace with modern features in file managers. Much like AVFS (if I could ever get it to work). -- Michael Montagne mi...@th... http://www.themontagnes.com |
From: Marcin J. <ma...@am...> - 2002-09-26 13:50:17
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 06:41:17AM -0700, Michael Montagne wrote: > >On 26/09/02, from the brain of Lars Hansson tumbled: > Allowing access to files via ftp and dav thru ROX would just be keeoing > pace with modern features in file managers. > Much like AVFS (if I could ever get it to work). Few months ago I had AVFS working and found it very unusable - if I have archive to use I use Midnight Commander. For me ROX-Filer is a directory browser with thumbnails function (and of course quite good mime database for which I can map gnome icons). I like it, I use it, I repackaged it :) and will use it - maybe someday (when I will learn Gtk2 more) I will add something new or split from it... who knows. -- Marcin 'Szczepan|Hrw' Juszkiewicz mailto: marcin<at>amiga<dot>pl my Debian packages: deb http://users.stone.pl/szczepan/ apt/ |
From: Jesse R. <ra...@ra...> - 2002-09-26 13:52:50
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It seems to me that adding FTP support should be fairly trivial to anyone familiar with python. I'm still working on it, time hasn't really been my ally this past week or so. I still haven't really gotten a chance to hack on edit. I was planning on waiting for the new release as it was mentioned earlier this week. I'm not familiar with DAV. I guess I need to brush up on current tech a bit. I have a bad habit of not bothering with it once my things work the way I want them to. Other than security updates that is. -Raleigh |
From: Gregory S. <gs...@fr...> - 2002-09-25 15:26:56
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On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Delcides F. Sousa Jr wrote: > * Gregory Spath (gs...@fr...) wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Delcides F. Sousa Jr wrote: > > > > > And the ability to _display_ ( not highlight as of now) only files > > > whose name match a certain pattern, like "s[a-e]*.htm". > > > Very useful when you have dirs with tons of files. > > > > > > > This isn't too difficult if you use filesystems that allow symlinks: > > > > http://freefall.homeip.net/ROXFilter > > > > The link seems to be broken. > Oops. That's what I get for manually typing stuff (my internal domain is different from my external, which is why I didn't copy/paste). The real URL is: http://freefall.homeip.net/code/ROXFilter/ Sorry about that! --g |
From: Lars H. <la...@un...> - 2002-09-25 08:01:35
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On 25 Sep 2002 08:48:29 +0000 Graham Borland <gr...@mo...> wrote: > I'm desperate for a proper GTK-based text editor. You might be interested in gedit or glimmer. gedit is pretty decent when all you need is a simple editor but it lacks stuff like syntax highlight. glimmer is ok when you need those more "advanced" features. --- Lars Hansson |
From: Jim L. <jc...@st...> - 2002-09-25 14:20:43
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In article <200...@un...>, Lars Hansson <la...@un...> wrote: > On 25 Sep 2002 08:48:29 +0000 Graham Borland <gr...@mo...> wrote: > > I'm desperate for a proper GTK-based text editor. > You might be interested in gedit or glimmer. gedit is pretty decent when > all you need is a simple editor but it lacks stuff like syntax > highlight. glimmer is ok when you need those more "advanced" features. I've been trying gedit (and now nedit as well). Nedit has an odd habit of broefly blanking the screen when I call up a menu. In general, I prefer gedit, but would prefer something more RO-like that fitted the ROX desktop better. Hence my preference for something along the !Edit/!DeskEdit line... Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html TechWriter http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/TechWrite/Tips1.html Compo http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Compo/clues.html |
From: Karol K. <mi...@sg...> - 2002-09-25 08:11:56
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> Thomas: ROX-Filer is good enough. Time to let it lie, and give us a > text editor as well. :-) Yeah, I can't think of anything more that I'd need from rox. What are the future plans? mimooh |
From: Marcin J. <ma...@am...> - 2002-09-25 10:09:20
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 10:20:20AM +0200, Karol Krenski wrote: > > Thomas: ROX-Filer is good enough. Time to let it lie, and give us a > > text editor as well. :-) > Yeah, I can't think of anything more that I'd need from rox. What are > the future plans? wishlist: - panels with selectable height and scalable icons - all command line options in Options (like -o at now) - sort patch included in upstream version (just like in my Debian rox-cvs) - marking as appdirs directories with AppInfo.xml instead of AppRun - shadowed font on pinboard -- Marcin 'Szczepan|Hrw' Juszkiewicz mailto: marcin<at>amiga<dot>pl my Debian packages: deb http://users.stone.pl/szczepan/ apt/ |
From: Thomas L. <ta...@ec...> - 2002-09-29 09:42:36
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 12:08:55PM +0200, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 10:20:20AM +0200, Karol Krenski wrote: > > > Thomas: ROX-Filer is good enough. Time to let it lie, and give us a > > > text editor as well. :-) > > Yeah, I can't think of anything more that I'd need from rox. What are > > the future plans? > > wishlist: > - panels with selectable height and scalable icons Yes, icon scaling everywhere needs to be more flexible. We should probably move the standard size to be in line with GNOME, too. > - all command line options in Options (like -o at now) > - sort patch included in upstream version (just like in my Debian rox-cvs) I'd like to see this pop up a menu instead of cycling through the sort types. It's really hard to see what the current order is! Probably the sort types should have their own submenu from Display, so we can display the same menu in both places. Also, they should be named like 'Biggest first' instead of 'Sort by size'... > - marking as appdirs directories with AppInfo.xml instead of AppRun Possibly, but very un-backwards compatible! > - shadowed font on pinboard Easy enough... want to send a patch? [ Replies should probably be to rox-devel ] -- Thomas Leonard http://rox.sourceforge.net ta...@ec... ta...@us... GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1 |
From: Jesse R. <ra...@ra...> - 2002-09-25 13:18:07
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I personally use Glimmer more than any other application. It has some very nice features, but takes a bit of time to start up. You could also look into Moleskine, and Scite. A google search should work. phpMole is also pretty good, but you will need to know what you're doing to get it working properly. -Raleigh On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 04:48, Graham Borland wrote: > > Oops - I seem to have sent my reply directly to Biju by mistake. Here > it is again... > > Biju Chacko <bij...@vs...> writes: > > > "Thou shalt edit text with Vim. Thou shalt have no other editors but > > it. Emacs, particularly, is a wile of the devil and shall leadeth > > the unwary to sin, confusion and worn out Ctrl keys" > > I'm desperate for a proper GTK-based text editor. I've tried both > XEmacs and Gvim (Vim in GUI mode), and while both are powerful text > editors, they both have many shortcomings when trying to use them in a > window-based environment. Gvim, for example, can't handle multiple > windows on the desktop: you either have to have a single window and do > it the MDI way, or else run a separate process for each window (which > means you lose lots of Vim's flexibility). It's a big pain in the bum. > > What I really want is a port of Zap from RISC OS. It's almost three > years since I abandoned RISC OS for Linux, but in all that time I > still haven't managed to find a text editor which comes close to Zap's > combination of power and friendliness. > > Thomas: ROX-Filer is good enough. Time to let it lie, and give us a > text editor as well. :-) > > -- > Graham Borland > gr...@mo... > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > rox-users mailing list > rox...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rox-users |
From: Jim L. <jc...@st...> - 2002-09-25 14:17:39
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In article <m3y...@fr...n>, Graham Borland <gr...@mo...> wrote: > What I really want is a port of Zap from RISC OS. It's almost three > years since I abandoned RISC OS for Linux, but in all that time I still > haven't managed to find a text editor which comes close to Zap's > combination of power and friendliness. Zap would be OK, with me, but I'd still prefer a 'DeskEdit-like' clone for simplicity. :-) Anyone going to mention StrongED? ;-> Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html TechWriter http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/TechWrite/Tips1.html Compo http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Compo/clues.html |