From: robert l. <rob...@gm...> - 2008-11-12 21:44:09
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Hi all, I'm running RG 1.6.1 - I can upgrade if need be. I have this korg beast - which itself runs linux coincidently: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korg_OASYS On most midi files, I can indeed load the midi file and get sound out of the Oasys via the instruments I choose to map on the keyboard. The problem is that on a few midi files, the instruments I set in the Oasys change everytime I click the RG "Rewind to beginning" or restart RG. I can even start RG with one midi file, load the template song I created on the Oasys, and in the middle of playing the instruments change! Perhaps this is standard fare with some midi files, but I've never seen it before. Would I have to edit the midi file to prevent these changes mid-song? Can I configure RG to lock the instruments? I don't see the instruments names change in RG nor in Timidity. Here's the midi file in question - from the progressive band Ozric Tentacles and a song called "Vita Voom" (I found it on the bands site): http://braziloutsource.com/OZRIC8.MID The other question I have is creating an RGD file for the Oasys - perhaps that prevent these changes mid song? I've always done the instrument selection on the keyboards, without any problems until now. I just downloaded the latest RG svn and I don't see a an RGD for the Oasys. The just the Oasys "Voice name list" manual is a 161 page monster! I see the Korg Extreme rgd's which is a start though not as rich as the the Oasys. Robert |
From: A. T. B. <al...@gm...> - 2008-11-12 22:02:13
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Hi there, I Suspekt that the Korg synth don't take with the programming for the midi part when you try to export it to Rosegarden, this work first time, but when you revind the standard setting the is in the Quic instrument parameter take over the instrument setting, If the Korg not have Put Some controller that take care of what instruments and so ond have been programmed into the segment you can get this problem i think.. Regards Alf Tonny On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:44 PM, robert lazarski <rob...@gm...> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm running RG 1.6.1 - I can upgrade if need be. I have this korg > beast - which itself runs linux coincidently: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korg_OASYS > > On most midi files, I can indeed load the midi file and get sound out > of the Oasys via the instruments I choose to map on the keyboard. The > problem is that on a few midi files, the instruments I set in the > Oasys change everytime I click the RG "Rewind to beginning" or restart > RG. I can even start RG with one midi file, load the template song I > created on the Oasys, and in the middle of playing the instruments > change! Perhaps this is standard fare with some midi files, but I've > never seen it before. Would I have to edit the midi file to prevent > these changes mid-song? Can I configure RG to lock the instruments? I > don't see the instruments names change in RG nor in Timidity. > > Here's the midi file in question - from the progressive band Ozric > Tentacles and a song called "Vita Voom" (I found it on the bands > site): > > http://braziloutsource.com/OZRIC8.MID > > The other question I have is creating an RGD file for the Oasys - > perhaps that prevent these changes mid song? I've always done the > instrument selection on the keyboards, without any problems until now. > I just downloaded the latest RG svn and I don't see a an RGD for the > Oasys. The just the Oasys "Voice name list" manual is a 161 page > monster! I see the Korg Extreme rgd's which is a start though not as > rich as the the Oasys. > > Robert > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Ros...@li... - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > |
From: D. M. M. <ros...@gm...> - 2008-11-13 01:39:03
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On Wednesday 12 November 2008, robert lazarski wrote: > change! Perhaps this is standard fare with some midi files, but I've Some MIDI files have program changes in the middle somewhere. This is common and normal. This file has 19 of them at various times. That's probably the reason for the problem you perceive. > never seen it before. Would I have to edit the midi file to prevent > these changes mid-song? You'd have to edit the .rg file. If you really want to do this, it's easy to do the same way I just counted the number of program changes in the file. 1) import the .mid file 2) save the imported result as an .rg file 3) gunzip -c exported_result-file.rg | grep programchange Let's see... You'd want to grep everything that isn't a program change, and direct the result to some other file. This worked: gunzip -c OZRIC8.rg |grep -v programchange > foo.rg Now foo.rg is the same as the original file, with all the program change events stripped out. You could also do the same thing from the event list editor if you'd rather not visit the evil command line. The command line is just vastly faster in this case. > Can I configure RG to lock the instruments? No. -- D. Michael McIntyre |
From: robert l. <rob...@gm...> - 2008-11-13 22:48:46
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On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:38 PM, D. Michael McIntyre <ros...@gm...> wrote: > On Wednesday 12 November 2008, robert lazarski wrote: > > This worked: > > gunzip -c OZRIC8.rg |grep -v programchange > foo.rg > > Now foo.rg is the same as the original file, with all the program change > events stripped out. > > You could also do the same thing from the event list editor if you'd rather > not visit the evil command line. The command line is just vastly faster in > this case. > That worked great, thanks. I'm a command line guy mostly, so grep -v on programchange was exactly the trick I was looking for. Robert >> Can I configure RG to lock the instruments? > > No. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre |
From: A. T. B. <al...@gm...> - 2008-11-13 07:01:52
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Yeah, it was also quic to remove the programchange with the Event list editor to, (sorry about my bougy answer yesterday, newer answer somthing when you tired) I don't like teach the teachers to use command line tought. Regards Alf Tonny On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:38 AM, D. Michael McIntyre <ros...@gm...> wrote: > On Wednesday 12 November 2008, robert lazarski wrote: >> change! Perhaps this is standard fare with some midi files, but I've > > Some MIDI files have program changes in the middle somewhere. This is common > and normal. > > This file has 19 of them at various times. That's probably the reason for the > problem you perceive. > >> never seen it before. Would I have to edit the midi file to prevent >> these changes mid-song? > > You'd have to edit the .rg file. If you really want to do this, it's easy to > do the same way I just counted the number of program changes in the file. > > 1) import the .mid file > 2) save the imported result as an .rg file > 3) gunzip -c exported_result-file.rg | grep programchange > > Let's see... You'd want to grep everything that isn't a program change, and > direct the result to some other file. > > This worked: > > gunzip -c OZRIC8.rg |grep -v programchange > foo.rg > > Now foo.rg is the same as the original file, with all the program change > events stripped out. > > You could also do the same thing from the event list editor if you'd rather > not visit the evil command line. The command line is just vastly faster in > this case. > >> Can I configure RG to lock the instruments? > > No. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Ros...@li... - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > |
From: D. M. M. <ros...@gm...> - 2008-11-13 11:23:22
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On Thursday 13 November 2008, Alf Tonny Bätz wrote: > I don't like teach the teachers to use command line tought. I'm not worried about it in this case, since "how do I strip all the program changes out of a file" is a question that only gets asked once every six years or so. -- D. Michael McIntyre |