Re: [Rest2web-develop] None and Defaults

[Michael F. <mi...@pc...>]

Ok.

What about attribute access - we leaving it in ?

Lots of Section attributes clash with possible key names - 'defaults', 'sections', 'scalars', etc

Fuzz

-----Original Message-----
   >From: "Nicola Larosa"<ni...@te...>
   >Sent: 16/08/05 17:09:41
   >To: "res...@li..."<res...@li...>
   >Subject: Re: [Rest2web-develop] None and Defaults
   >
   >>> I'm cool with the "None" string, by itself, always meaning the None value,
   >>> like True or False, but not restricted to one check type. Maybe we should
   >>> take out that "lower" method, though.
   >
   >> I'm not - ConfigObj shouldn't change the type without the programmer
   >> specifying it.
   >
   >Good point.
   >
   >
   >> Don't forget the value is set by the *user* - not the programmer.
   >> ConfigObj should only convert type if the programmer says. None
   >> shouldn't be an acceptable value for every check - maybe it *isn't* an
   >> acceptable value (what if the programmer really does want an integer
   >> there - he expects validate to tell him).
   >
   >Yes, actually None is a value of type NoneType. Hadn't realized that
   >before, was thinking of it as an amorphous no-type-every-type non-value.
   >
   >
   >> This means that someone's program will break because a user enters
   >> 'None' as a string value. It ought to be possible to have 'None' as a
   >> string value in a config file without our program converting it to
   >> another type.
   >
   >Another good point.
   >
   >
   >> I thought the point was to catch defaults ?
   >
   >Yes, it was, but then I incautiously adventured into YAGNI land. ;-)
   >
   >
   >> My proposed (and currently committed) solution allows the programmer to
   >> specify that None is ok (by using default='None'), which makes the value
   >> explicitly (user sets value as 'None')
   >
   >I don't think the user may explicitly set a None value, now, but it may as
   >well be that way.
   >
   >
   >> and implicitly (user omits value altogether) optional.
   >
   >That's probably enough.
   >
   >
   >> I'm fine with removing the 'lower'.
   >
   >So be it. Sorry for the confusion.
   >
   >-- 
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