From: kingwinter <kin...@gm...> - 2010-05-20 11:01:46
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hi, there Do we have a VMware image for preinstalled player stage and some tools for robotics? It would be very helpful for newbie. kingwinter -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p28619690.html Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Rich M. <jp...@gm...> - 2010-05-20 13:06:38
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Right now there's no official vmware image. A quick google search turned up one somebody made four years ago (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/338), but I don't see anything more recent. There are packages for Player and Stage in a couple of distributions already, and there are several examples included with Player, with more on the internet. As far as other tools for robotics, I'm not really sure what you have in mind. Rich -----Original Message----- From: kingwinter [mailto:kin...@gm...] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:02 AM To: pla...@li... Subject: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and robotics hi, there Do we have a VMware image for preinstalled player stage and some tools for robotics? It would be very helpful for newbie. kingwinter -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p2 8619690.html Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- _______________________________________________ Playerstage-users mailing list Pla...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users |
From: Arkapravo B. <ark...@gm...> - 2010-05-21 13:53:57
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Is it possible to make our own iso, with selected dependencies, Unix (flavour and version) and the version of Player-Stage-Gazebo etc ? It may be a great help to Player Project Noobs ! On 20/05/2010, Rich Mattes <jp...@gm...> wrote: > > Right now there's no official vmware image. A quick google search turned > up > one somebody made four years ago > (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/338), but I don't see anything > more recent. There are packages for Player and Stage in a couple of > distributions already, and there are several examples included with Player, > with more on the internet. As far as other tools for robotics, I'm not > really sure what you have in mind. > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: kingwinter [mailto:kin...@gm...] > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:02 AM > To: pla...@li... > Subject: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and robotics > > > hi, there > > Do we have a VMware image for preinstalled player stage and some tools for > robotics? It would be very helpful for newbie. > > kingwinter > -- > View this message in context: > > http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p2 > 8619690.html > Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > |
From: Rich M. <jp...@gm...> - 2010-05-21 14:58:17
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It's possible. In fact, creating a Fedora Robotics LiveCD is one of the goals of the Fedora Robotics SIG, once we get enough programs packaged for Fedora. The latest releases Player and Stage are already packaged, but we're still working on Gazebo, and maybe on contributing some tutorial/example kind of stuff. It's simple enough to generate a LiveCD using Revisor in Fedora, but we'd need to find somewhere to host it and keep it maintained, etc. For now, you can download a Fedora LiveCD from release 11 on, and use the package manager to install the latest versions of Player and Stage. There's directions on the Player wiki[1] on how to get up and running. I've been using both heavily on Fedora 12 over the past couple of months and I haven't encountered any major problems. Rich [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/Download From: Arkapravo Bhaumik [mailto:ark...@gm...] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:54 AM To: pla...@li... Subject: Re: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and robotics Is it possible to make our own iso, with selected dependencies, Unix (flavour and version) and the version of Player-Stage-Gazebo etc ? It may be a great help to Player Project Noobs ! On 20/05/2010, Rich Mattes <jp...@gm...> wrote: Right now there's no official vmware image. A quick google search turned up one somebody made four years ago (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/338), but I don't see anything more recent. There are packages for Player and Stage in a couple of distributions already, and there are several examples included with Player, with more on the internet. As far as other tools for robotics, I'm not really sure what you have in mind. Rich -----Original Message----- From: kingwinter [mailto:kin...@gm...] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:02 AM To: pla...@li... Subject: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and robotics hi, there Do we have a VMware image for preinstalled player stage and some tools for robotics? It would be very helpful for newbie. kingwinter -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p2 8619690.html Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- _______________________________________________ Playerstage-users mailing list Pla...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- _______________________________________________ Playerstage-users mailing list Pla...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users |
From: Paul O. <new...@ki...> - 2010-05-21 15:41:23
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Once I made Robodisk DVD - using Gentoo Catalyst which contained Player, Stage, Gazebo and all dependencies (as in http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/~vlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt - this is for Player-3.x while my disk contained Player-2.0.3) togetger with GNOME, Firefox, mplayer, lots of scripting languages and even OpenOffice suite. It needed so much work and soon became obsolete as it couldn't start on latest laptops bought by my students. I never released newer version, too much work. Paul On Fri, 21 May 2010, Rich Mattes wrote: > It's possible. In fact, creating a Fedora Robotics LiveCD is one of the > goals of the Fedora Robotics SIG, once we get enough programs packaged for > Fedora. The latest releases Player and Stage are already packaged, but > we're still working on Gazebo, and maybe on contributing some > tutorial/example kind of stuff. It's simple enough to generate a LiveCD > using Revisor in Fedora, but we'd need to find somewhere to host it and keep > it maintained, etc. > > > > For now, you can download a Fedora LiveCD from release 11 on, and use the > package manager to install the latest versions of Player and Stage. There's > directions on the Player wiki[1] on how to get up and running. I've been > using both heavily on Fedora 12 over the past couple of months and I haven't > encountered any major problems. > > > > Rich > > > > [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/Download > > > > From: Arkapravo Bhaumik [mailto:ark...@gm...] > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:54 AM > To: pla...@li... > Subject: Re: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and robotics > > > > Is it possible to make our own iso, with selected dependencies, Unix > (flavour and version) and the version of Player-Stage-Gazebo etc ? It may be > a great help to Player Project Noobs ! > > > On 20/05/2010, Rich Mattes <jp...@gm...> wrote: > > Right now there's no official vmware image. A quick google search turned up > one somebody made four years ago > (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/338), but I don't see anything > more recent. There are packages for Player and Stage in a couple of > distributions already, and there are several examples included with Player, > with more on the internet. As far as other tools for robotics, I'm not > really sure what you have in mind. > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: kingwinter [mailto:kin...@gm...] > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:02 AM > To: pla...@li... > Subject: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and robotics > > > hi, there > > Do we have a VMware image for preinstalled player stage and some tools for > robotics? It would be very helpful for newbie. > > kingwinter > -- > View this message in context: > http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p2 > 8619690.html > Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > > > > > > |
From: Piotr T. <pio...@gm...> - 2010-05-22 09:47:41
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I think this is where actually VMWare comes into play! It is easier for students to run VMWare on their fancy laptops, than for a dist packager to include latest hardware support in a live DVD. There is a lot of posts on this mailing lists about "howto get P/S/G running on my distro???". Maybe this is even a majority of all posts! I wonder if this is no more important issue than any other new neat feature... Piotr On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 17:41, Paul Osmialowski <new...@ki...>wrote: > Once I made Robodisk DVD - using Gentoo Catalyst which contained Player, > Stage, Gazebo and all dependencies (as in > http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/~vlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt<http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/%7Evlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt>- this is for > Player-3.x while my disk contained Player-2.0.3) togetger with GNOME, > Firefox, mplayer, lots of scripting languages and even OpenOffice suite. > It needed so much work and soon became obsolete as it couldn't start on > latest laptops bought by my students. I never released newer version, too > much work. > > Paul > > On Fri, 21 May 2010, Rich Mattes wrote: > > > It's possible. In fact, creating a Fedora Robotics LiveCD is one of the > > goals of the Fedora Robotics SIG, once we get enough programs packaged > for > > Fedora. The latest releases Player and Stage are already packaged, but > > we're still working on Gazebo, and maybe on contributing some > > tutorial/example kind of stuff. It's simple enough to generate a LiveCD > > using Revisor in Fedora, but we'd need to find somewhere to host it and > keep > > it maintained, etc. > > > > > > > > For now, you can download a Fedora LiveCD from release 11 on, and use the > > package manager to install the latest versions of Player and Stage. > There's > > directions on the Player wiki[1] on how to get up and running. I've been > > using both heavily on Fedora 12 over the past couple of months and I > haven't > > encountered any major problems. > > > > > > > > Rich > > > > > > > > [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/Download > > > > > > > > From: Arkapravo Bhaumik [mailto:ark...@gm...] > > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:54 AM > > To: pla...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and > robotics > > > > > > > > Is it possible to make our own iso, with selected dependencies, Unix > > (flavour and version) and the version of Player-Stage-Gazebo etc ? It may > be > > a great help to Player Project Noobs ! > > > > > > On 20/05/2010, Rich Mattes <jp...@gm...> wrote: > > > > Right now there's no official vmware image. A quick google search turned > up > > one somebody made four years ago > > (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/338), but I don't see > anything > > more recent. There are packages for Player and Stage in a couple of > > distributions already, and there are several examples included with > Player, > > with more on the internet. As far as other tools for robotics, I'm not > > really sure what you have in mind. > > > > Rich > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: kingwinter [mailto:kin...@gm...] > > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:02 AM > > To: pla...@li... > > Subject: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and robotics > > > > > > hi, there > > > > Do we have a VMware image for preinstalled player stage and some tools > for > > robotics? It would be very helpful for newbie. > > > > kingwinter > > -- > > View this message in context: > > > http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p2 > > 8619690.html > > Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Playerstage-users mailing list > > Pla...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Playerstage-users mailing list > > Pla...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > -- Piotr Trojanek |
From: kingwinter <kin...@gm...> - 2010-05-22 22:40:40
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What I can see from this forum is that VMware image is very necessary to avoid the hassle during installation. I suggest to build a linux image based on Ubuntu which is the most widely used linux system. Apart from installing P/S/G, other tools I can think to install are pyro: http://pyrorobotics.org/?page=Pyro python robotics, with easy simulation environment. It can work with player and The Mobile Robot Programming Toolkit (MRPT) MRPT: http://babel.isa.uma.es/mrpt/index.php/Main_Page a library for mobile robot SLAM algorithm. The tested robot platform is not player. But I suppose it should be ok to work with player. Does anyone have suggestion on MRPT? Piotr Trojanek wrote: > > I think this is where actually VMWare comes into play! > > It is easier for students to run VMWare on their fancy laptops, than for a > dist packager > to include latest hardware support in a live DVD. > > There is a lot of posts on this mailing lists about "howto get P/S/G > running > on my distro???". > Maybe this is even a majority of all posts! I wonder if this is no more > important issue > than any other new neat feature... > > Piotr > > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 17:41, Paul Osmialowski > <new...@ki...>wrote: > >> Once I made Robodisk DVD - using Gentoo Catalyst which contained Player, >> Stage, Gazebo and all dependencies (as in >> http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/~vlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt<http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/%7Evlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt>- >> this is for >> Player-3.x while my disk contained Player-2.0.3) togetger with GNOME, >> Firefox, mplayer, lots of scripting languages and even OpenOffice suite. >> It needed so much work and soon became obsolete as it couldn't start on >> latest laptops bought by my students. I never released newer version, too >> much work. >> >> Paul >> >> On Fri, 21 May 2010, Rich Mattes wrote: >> >> > It's possible. In fact, creating a Fedora Robotics LiveCD is one of >> the >> > goals of the Fedora Robotics SIG, once we get enough programs packaged >> for >> > Fedora. The latest releases Player and Stage are already packaged, but >> > we're still working on Gazebo, and maybe on contributing some >> > tutorial/example kind of stuff. It's simple enough to generate a >> LiveCD >> > using Revisor in Fedora, but we'd need to find somewhere to host it and >> keep >> > it maintained, etc. >> > >> > >> > >> > For now, you can download a Fedora LiveCD from release 11 on, and use >> the >> > package manager to install the latest versions of Player and Stage. >> There's >> > directions on the Player wiki[1] on how to get up and running. I've >> been >> > using both heavily on Fedora 12 over the past couple of months and I >> haven't >> > encountered any major problems. >> > >> > >> > >> > Rich >> > >> > >> > >> > [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/Download >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Arkapravo Bhaumik [mailto:ark...@gm...] >> > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:54 AM >> > To: pla...@li... >> > Subject: Re: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and >> robotics >> > >> > >> > >> > Is it possible to make our own iso, with selected dependencies, Unix >> > (flavour and version) and the version of Player-Stage-Gazebo etc ? It >> may >> be >> > a great help to Player Project Noobs ! >> > >> > >> > On 20/05/2010, Rich Mattes <jp...@gm...> wrote: >> > >> > Right now there's no official vmware image. A quick google search >> turned >> up >> > one somebody made four years ago >> > (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/338), but I don't see >> anything >> > more recent. There are packages for Player and Stage in a couple of >> > distributions already, and there are several examples included with >> Player, >> > with more on the internet. As far as other tools for robotics, I'm not >> > really sure what you have in mind. >> > >> > Rich >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: kingwinter [mailto:kin...@gm...] >> > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:02 AM >> > To: pla...@li... >> > Subject: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and robotics >> > >> > >> > hi, there >> > >> > Do we have a VMware image for preinstalled player stage and some tools >> for >> > robotics? It would be very helpful for newbie. >> > >> > kingwinter >> > -- >> > View this message in context: >> > >> http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p2 >> > 8619690.html >> > Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > -- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Playerstage-users mailing list >> > Pla...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > -- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Playerstage-users mailing list >> > Pla...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Playerstage-users mailing list >> Pla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >> > > > > -- > Piotr Trojanek > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p28646469.html Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Paul O. <new...@ki...> - 2010-05-23 09:11:25
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This was somewhat interesting project and they also released livecd with Player and Stage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kerl/files Unfortunately, I can't see any progress there. I guess every live image project shares the same fate. Paul On Sun, 23 May 2010, Geoff Biggs wrote: > http://robobuntu.diiga.univpm.it/ > > Looks like they didn't go any further after publishing their ICRA paper. > > Geoff > > On 23/05/10 07:40, kingwinter wrote: >> >> What I can see from this forum is that VMware image is very necessary to >> avoid the hassle during installation. >> >> I suggest to build a linux image based on Ubuntu which is the most widely >> used linux system. Apart from installing P/S/G, other tools I can think to >> install are >> >> pyro: http://pyrorobotics.org/?page=Pyro >> python robotics, with easy simulation environment. It can work with player >> and >> The Mobile Robot Programming Toolkit (MRPT) >> MRPT: http://babel.isa.uma.es/mrpt/index.php/Main_Page >> a library for mobile robot SLAM algorithm. The tested robot platform is not >> player. But I suppose it should be ok to work with player. Does anyone have >> suggestion on MRPT? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Piotr Trojanek wrote: >>> >>> I think this is where actually VMWare comes into play! >>> >>> It is easier for students to run VMWare on their fancy laptops, than for a >>> dist packager >>> to include latest hardware support in a live DVD. >>> >>> There is a lot of posts on this mailing lists about "howto get P/S/G >>> running >>> on my distro???". >>> Maybe this is even a majority of all posts! I wonder if this is no more >>> important issue >>> than any other new neat feature... >>> >>> Piotr >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 17:41, Paul Osmialowski >>> <new...@ki...>wrote: >>> >>>> Once I made Robodisk DVD - using Gentoo Catalyst which contained Player, >>>> Stage, Gazebo and all dependencies (as in >>>> http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/~vlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt<http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/%7Evlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt>- >>>> this is for >>>> Player-3.x while my disk contained Player-2.0.3) togetger with GNOME, >>>> Firefox, mplayer, lots of scripting languages and even OpenOffice suite. >>>> It needed so much work and soon became obsolete as it couldn't start on >>>> latest laptops bought by my students. I never released newer version, too >>>> much work. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> On Fri, 21 May 2010, Rich Mattes wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's possible. In fact, creating a Fedora Robotics LiveCD is one of >>>> the >>>>> goals of the Fedora Robotics SIG, once we get enough programs packaged >>>> for >>>>> Fedora. The latest releases Player and Stage are already packaged, but >>>>> we're still working on Gazebo, and maybe on contributing some >>>>> tutorial/example kind of stuff. It's simple enough to generate a >>>> LiveCD >>>>> using Revisor in Fedora, but we'd need to find somewhere to host it and >>>> keep >>>>> it maintained, etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For now, you can download a Fedora LiveCD from release 11 on, and use >>>> the >>>>> package manager to install the latest versions of Player and Stage. >>>> There's >>>>> directions on the Player wiki[1] on how to get up and running. I've >>>> been >>>>> using both heavily on Fedora 12 over the past couple of months and I >>>> haven't >>>>> encountered any major problems. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rich >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/Download >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Arkapravo Bhaumik [mailto:ark...@gm...] >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:54 AM >>>>> To: pla...@li... >>>>> Subject: Re: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and >>>> robotics >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is it possible to make our own iso, with selected dependencies, Unix >>>>> (flavour and version) and the version of Player-Stage-Gazebo etc ? It >>>> may >>>> be >>>>> a great help to Player Project Noobs ! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 20/05/2010, Rich Mattes<jp...@gm...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Right now there's no official vmware image. A quick google search >>>> turned >>>> up >>>>> one somebody made four years ago >>>>> (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/338), but I don't see >>>> anything >>>>> more recent. There are packages for Player and Stage in a couple of >>>>> distributions already, and there are several examples included with >>>> Player, >>>>> with more on the internet. As far as other tools for robotics, I'm not >>>>> really sure what you have in mind. >>>>> >>>>> Rich >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: kingwinter [mailto:kin...@gm...] >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:02 AM >>>>> To: pla...@li... >>>>> Subject: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and robotics >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> hi, there >>>>> >>>>> Do we have a VMware image for preinstalled player stage and some tools >>>> for >>>>> robotics? It would be very helpful for newbie. >>>>> >>>>> kingwinter >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: >>>>> >>>> http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p2 >>>>> 8619690.html >>>>> Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>>> Pla...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>>> Pla...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>> Pla...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Piotr Trojanek >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>> Pla...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>> >>> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > |
From: Arkapravo B. <ark...@gm...> - 2010-06-16 12:51:53
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Apparently ROBOBUNTU doesn't works ! ...... did it work for anyone ?? My observations were that it doesn't have Player or Stage installed into it. On 6 June 2010 15:01, Arkapravo Bhaumik <ark...@gm...> wrote: > Hi > > Has anyone used robobuntu <http://robobuntu.diiga.univpm.it/> ? I just > downloaded it. > > Regards > > Arkapravo > |
From: Geoff B. <gb...@ki...> - 2010-05-23 08:03:29
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http://robobuntu.diiga.univpm.it/ Looks like they didn't go any further after publishing their ICRA paper. Geoff On 23/05/10 07:40, kingwinter wrote: > > What I can see from this forum is that VMware image is very necessary to > avoid the hassle during installation. > > I suggest to build a linux image based on Ubuntu which is the most widely > used linux system. Apart from installing P/S/G, other tools I can think to > install are > > pyro: http://pyrorobotics.org/?page=Pyro > python robotics, with easy simulation environment. It can work with player > and > The Mobile Robot Programming Toolkit (MRPT) > MRPT: http://babel.isa.uma.es/mrpt/index.php/Main_Page > a library for mobile robot SLAM algorithm. The tested robot platform is not > player. But I suppose it should be ok to work with player. Does anyone have > suggestion on MRPT? > > > > > > > Piotr Trojanek wrote: >> >> I think this is where actually VMWare comes into play! >> >> It is easier for students to run VMWare on their fancy laptops, than for a >> dist packager >> to include latest hardware support in a live DVD. >> >> There is a lot of posts on this mailing lists about "howto get P/S/G >> running >> on my distro???". >> Maybe this is even a majority of all posts! I wonder if this is no more >> important issue >> than any other new neat feature... >> >> Piotr >> >> >> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 17:41, Paul Osmialowski >> <new...@ki...>wrote: >> >>> Once I made Robodisk DVD - using Gentoo Catalyst which contained Player, >>> Stage, Gazebo and all dependencies (as in >>> http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/~vlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt<http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/%7Evlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt>- >>> this is for >>> Player-3.x while my disk contained Player-2.0.3) togetger with GNOME, >>> Firefox, mplayer, lots of scripting languages and even OpenOffice suite. >>> It needed so much work and soon became obsolete as it couldn't start on >>> latest laptops bought by my students. I never released newer version, too >>> much work. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On Fri, 21 May 2010, Rich Mattes wrote: >>> >>>> It's possible. In fact, creating a Fedora Robotics LiveCD is one of >>> the >>>> goals of the Fedora Robotics SIG, once we get enough programs packaged >>> for >>>> Fedora. The latest releases Player and Stage are already packaged, but >>>> we're still working on Gazebo, and maybe on contributing some >>>> tutorial/example kind of stuff. It's simple enough to generate a >>> LiveCD >>>> using Revisor in Fedora, but we'd need to find somewhere to host it and >>> keep >>>> it maintained, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For now, you can download a Fedora LiveCD from release 11 on, and use >>> the >>>> package manager to install the latest versions of Player and Stage. >>> There's >>>> directions on the Player wiki[1] on how to get up and running. I've >>> been >>>> using both heavily on Fedora 12 over the past couple of months and I >>> haven't >>>> encountered any major problems. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rich >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/Download >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Arkapravo Bhaumik [mailto:ark...@gm...] >>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:54 AM >>>> To: pla...@li... >>>> Subject: Re: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and >>> robotics >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Is it possible to make our own iso, with selected dependencies, Unix >>>> (flavour and version) and the version of Player-Stage-Gazebo etc ? It >>> may >>> be >>>> a great help to Player Project Noobs ! >>>> >>>> >>>> On 20/05/2010, Rich Mattes<jp...@gm...> wrote: >>>> >>>> Right now there's no official vmware image. A quick google search >>> turned >>> up >>>> one somebody made four years ago >>>> (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/338), but I don't see >>> anything >>>> more recent. There are packages for Player and Stage in a couple of >>>> distributions already, and there are several examples included with >>> Player, >>>> with more on the internet. As far as other tools for robotics, I'm not >>>> really sure what you have in mind. >>>> >>>> Rich >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: kingwinter [mailto:kin...@gm...] >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:02 AM >>>> To: pla...@li... >>>> Subject: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and robotics >>>> >>>> >>>> hi, there >>>> >>>> Do we have a VMware image for preinstalled player stage and some tools >>> for >>>> robotics? It would be very helpful for newbie. >>>> >>>> kingwinter >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> >>> http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p2 >>>> 8619690.html >>>> Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>> Pla...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>> Pla...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>> Pla...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Piotr Trojanek >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Playerstage-users mailing list >> Pla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >> >> > |
From: Rich M. <jp...@gm...> - 2010-05-23 18:11:10
|
Say someone goes and creates an Ubuntu 10.04 VMware image today, with the latest releases of Player, Stage, Gearbox, Gazebo, etc. installed from source. As soon as a new release of one of the programs comes out, with really desirable feature X, the whole VMware idea falls apart. The user that downloaded the VMware image has to know to go to the source directory, run a make uninstall, download the new tarball, configure it, and build it, and then rebuild and re-install any other dependencies. Or, whoever made the VMware image has to go in, rebuild, and then upload a new appliance, which means that the user will lose all of his or her data in the old VMware image. This is what we're seeing with the VMware images and LiveCDs we're digging up. Software gets out of date, users can't upgrade, image maintainers move on to other things. I think the best answer is to get Player and Stage packaged and included in distributions. Most of the problems that come up on this list seem to be with strange compilation errors and misconfigured build environments (and most of them are from Ubuntu users). If Player and Stage were available as binaries, the only obstacle one needs to overcome is to search for and install the program from the distro's package manager. Not being part of the Debian/Ubuntu community, I'm not sure how the packaging/sharing setup works. It looks like Ubuntu inherited Player 2.0.5 from Debian, with no new versions since. If I get some time, I might try to track down the maintainers and see if new versions can be made available. There's a small table on the wiki[1] that's mostly up to date, showing interesting robotics packages that are already packaged for different distributions. Rich [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/LinuxRoboticsStudio On 5/23/2010 5:11 AM, Paul Osmialowski wrote: > This was somewhat interesting project and they also released livecd with > Player and Stage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kerl/files > Unfortunately, I can't see any progress there. I guess every live image > project shares the same fate. > > Paul > > On Sun, 23 May 2010, Geoff Biggs wrote: > > >> http://robobuntu.diiga.univpm.it/ >> >> Looks like they didn't go any further after publishing their ICRA paper. >> >> Geoff >> >> On 23/05/10 07:40, kingwinter wrote: >> >>> What I can see from this forum is that VMware image is very necessary to >>> avoid the hassle during installation. >>> >>> I suggest to build a linux image based on Ubuntu which is the most widely >>> used linux system. Apart from installing P/S/G, other tools I can think to >>> install are >>> >>> pyro: http://pyrorobotics.org/?page=Pyro >>> python robotics, with easy simulation environment. It can work with player >>> and >>> The Mobile Robot Programming Toolkit (MRPT) >>> MRPT: http://babel.isa.uma.es/mrpt/index.php/Main_Page >>> a library for mobile robot SLAM algorithm. The tested robot platform is not >>> player. But I suppose it should be ok to work with player. Does anyone have >>> suggestion on MRPT? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Piotr Trojanek wrote: >>> >>>> I think this is where actually VMWare comes into play! >>>> >>>> It is easier for students to run VMWare on their fancy laptops, than for a >>>> dist packager >>>> to include latest hardware support in a live DVD. >>>> >>>> There is a lot of posts on this mailing lists about "howto get P/S/G >>>> running >>>> on my distro???". >>>> Maybe this is even a majority of all posts! I wonder if this is no more >>>> important issue >>>> than any other new neat feature... >>>> >>>> Piotr >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 17:41, Paul Osmialowski >>>> <new...@ki...>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Once I made Robodisk DVD - using Gentoo Catalyst which contained Player, >>>>> Stage, Gazebo and all dependencies (as in >>>>> http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/~vlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt<http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/%7Evlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt>- >>>>> this is for >>>>> Player-3.x while my disk contained Player-2.0.3) togetger with GNOME, >>>>> Firefox, mplayer, lots of scripting languages and even OpenOffice suite. >>>>> It needed so much work and soon became obsolete as it couldn't start on >>>>> latest laptops bought by my students. I never released newer version, too >>>>> much work. >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 21 May 2010, Rich Mattes wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It's possible. In fact, creating a Fedora Robotics LiveCD is one of >>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>> goals of the Fedora Robotics SIG, once we get enough programs packaged >>>>>> >>>>> for >>>>> >>>>>> Fedora. The latest releases Player and Stage are already packaged, but >>>>>> we're still working on Gazebo, and maybe on contributing some >>>>>> tutorial/example kind of stuff. It's simple enough to generate a >>>>>> >>>>> LiveCD >>>>> >>>>>> using Revisor in Fedora, but we'd need to find somewhere to host it and >>>>>> >>>>> keep >>>>> >>>>>> it maintained, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> For now, you can download a Fedora LiveCD from release 11 on, and use >>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>> package manager to install the latest versions of Player and Stage. >>>>>> >>>>> There's >>>>> >>>>>> directions on the Player wiki[1] on how to get up and running. I've >>>>>> >>>>> been >>>>> >>>>>> using both heavily on Fedora 12 over the past couple of months and I >>>>>> >>>>> haven't >>>>> >>>>>> encountered any major problems. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Rich >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/Download >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Arkapravo Bhaumik [mailto:ark...@gm...] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:54 AM >>>>>> To: pla...@li... >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and >>>>>> >>>>> robotics >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it possible to make our own iso, with selected dependencies, Unix >>>>>> (flavour and version) and the version of Player-Stage-Gazebo etc ? It >>>>>> >>>>> may >>>>> be >>>>> >>>>>> a great help to Player Project Noobs ! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 20/05/2010, Rich Mattes<jp...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Right now there's no official vmware image. A quick google search >>>>>> >>>>> turned >>>>> up >>>>> >>>>>> one somebody made four years ago >>>>>> (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/338), but I don't see >>>>>> >>>>> anything >>>>> >>>>>> more recent. There are packages for Player and Stage in a couple of >>>>>> distributions already, and there are several examples included with >>>>>> >>>>> Player, >>>>> >>>>>> with more on the internet. As far as other tools for robotics, I'm not >>>>>> really sure what you have in mind. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rich >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: kingwinter [mailto:kin...@gm...] >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:02 AM >>>>>> To: pla...@li... >>>>>> Subject: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and robotics >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> hi, there >>>>>> >>>>>> Do we have a VMware image for preinstalled player stage and some tools >>>>>> >>>>> for >>>>> >>>>>> robotics? It would be very helpful for newbie. >>>>>> >>>>>> kingwinter >>>>>> -- >>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p2 >>>>> >>>>>> 8619690.html >>>>>> Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>>>> Pla...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>>>> Pla...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>>> Pla...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Piotr Trojanek >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>> Pla...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Playerstage-users mailing list >> Pla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > |
From: Piotr T. <pio...@gm...> - 2010-05-23 18:47:28
|
I agree with you Rich, I believe that having P/S/G packaged in distro is the best option. Actually I did not notice, that it is already supported on Fedora, Ubuntu and friends! So maybe the solution for a newcomers is to get "official" Fedora VMWare appliance (maintained by Fedora community) and then get P/S/G installed with package manager? On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 20:11, Rich Mattes <jp...@gm...> wrote: > Say someone goes and creates an Ubuntu 10.04 VMware image today, with > the latest releases of Player, Stage, Gearbox, Gazebo, etc. installed > from source. As soon as a new release of one of the programs comes out, > with really desirable feature X, the whole VMware idea falls apart. The > user that downloaded the VMware image has to know to go to the source > directory, run a make uninstall, download the new tarball, configure it, > and build it, and then rebuild and re-install any other dependencies. > Or, whoever made the VMware image has to go in, rebuild, and then upload > a new appliance, which means that the user will lose all of his or her > data in the old VMware image. This is what we're seeing with the VMware > images and LiveCDs we're digging up. Software gets out of date, users > can't upgrade, image maintainers move on to other things. > > I think the best answer is to get Player and Stage packaged and included > in distributions. Most of the problems that come up on this list seem > to be with strange compilation errors and misconfigured build > environments (and most of them are from Ubuntu users). If Player and > Stage were available as binaries, the only obstacle one needs to > overcome is to search for and install the program from the distro's > package manager. > > Not being part of the Debian/Ubuntu community, I'm not sure how the > packaging/sharing setup works. It looks like Ubuntu inherited Player > 2.0.5 from Debian, with no new versions since. If I get some time, I > might try to track down the maintainers and see if new versions can be > made available. > > There's a small table on the wiki[1] that's mostly up to date, showing > interesting robotics packages that are already packaged for different > distributions. > > Rich > > [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/LinuxRoboticsStudio > > > > On 5/23/2010 5:11 AM, Paul Osmialowski wrote: > > This was somewhat interesting project and they also released livecd with > > Player and Stage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kerl/files > > Unfortunately, I can't see any progress there. I guess every live image > > project shares the same fate. > > > > Paul > > > > On Sun, 23 May 2010, Geoff Biggs wrote: > > > > > >> http://robobuntu.diiga.univpm.it/ > >> > >> Looks like they didn't go any further after publishing their ICRA paper. > >> > >> Geoff > >> > >> On 23/05/10 07:40, kingwinter wrote: > >> > >>> What I can see from this forum is that VMware image is very necessary > to > >>> avoid the hassle during installation. > >>> > >>> I suggest to build a linux image based on Ubuntu which is the most > widely > >>> used linux system. Apart from installing P/S/G, other tools I can think > to > >>> install are > >>> > >>> pyro: http://pyrorobotics.org/?page=Pyro > >>> python robotics, with easy simulation environment. It can work with > player > >>> and > >>> The Mobile Robot Programming Toolkit (MRPT) > >>> MRPT: http://babel.isa.uma.es/mrpt/index.php/Main_Page > >>> a library for mobile robot SLAM algorithm. The tested robot platform is > not > >>> player. But I suppose it should be ok to work with player. Does anyone > have > >>> suggestion on MRPT? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Piotr Trojanek wrote: > >>> > >>>> I think this is where actually VMWare comes into play! > >>>> > >>>> It is easier for students to run VMWare on their fancy laptops, than > for a > >>>> dist packager > >>>> to include latest hardware support in a live DVD. > >>>> > >>>> There is a lot of posts on this mailing lists about "howto get P/S/G > >>>> running > >>>> on my distro???". > >>>> Maybe this is even a majority of all posts! I wonder if this is no > more > >>>> important issue > >>>> than any other new neat feature... > >>>> > >>>> Piotr > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 17:41, Paul Osmialowski > >>>> <new...@ki...>wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Once I made Robodisk DVD - using Gentoo Catalyst which contained > Player, > >>>>> Stage, Gazebo and all dependencies (as in > >>>>> http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/~vlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt<http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/%7Evlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt> > <http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/%7Evlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt>- > >>>>> this is for > >>>>> Player-3.x while my disk contained Player-2.0.3) togetger with GNOME, > >>>>> Firefox, mplayer, lots of scripting languages and even OpenOffice > suite. > >>>>> It needed so much work and soon became obsolete as it couldn't start > on > >>>>> latest laptops bought by my students. I never released newer version, > too > >>>>> much work. > >>>>> > >>>>> Paul > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, 21 May 2010, Rich Mattes wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> It's possible. In fact, creating a Fedora Robotics LiveCD is one of > >>>>>> > >>>>> the > >>>>> > >>>>>> goals of the Fedora Robotics SIG, once we get enough programs > packaged > >>>>>> > >>>>> for > >>>>> > >>>>>> Fedora. The latest releases Player and Stage are already packaged, > but > >>>>>> we're still working on Gazebo, and maybe on contributing some > >>>>>> tutorial/example kind of stuff. It's simple enough to generate a > >>>>>> > >>>>> LiveCD > >>>>> > >>>>>> using Revisor in Fedora, but we'd need to find somewhere to host it > and > >>>>>> > >>>>> keep > >>>>> > >>>>>> it maintained, etc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> For now, you can download a Fedora LiveCD from release 11 on, and > use > >>>>>> > >>>>> the > >>>>> > >>>>>> package manager to install the latest versions of Player and Stage. > >>>>>> > >>>>> There's > >>>>> > >>>>>> directions on the Player wiki[1] on how to get up and running. I've > >>>>>> > >>>>> been > >>>>> > >>>>>> using both heavily on Fedora 12 over the past couple of months and I > >>>>>> > >>>>> haven't > >>>>> > >>>>>> encountered any major problems. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rich > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/Download > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> From: Arkapravo Bhaumik [mailto:ark...@gm...] > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:54 AM > >>>>>> To: pla...@li... > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and > >>>>>> > >>>>> robotics > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is it possible to make our own iso, with selected dependencies, Unix > >>>>>> (flavour and version) and the version of Player-Stage-Gazebo etc ? > It > >>>>>> > >>>>> may > >>>>> be > >>>>> > >>>>>> a great help to Player Project Noobs ! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 20/05/2010, Rich Mattes<jp...@gm...> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Right now there's no official vmware image. A quick google search > >>>>>> > >>>>> turned > >>>>> up > >>>>> > >>>>>> one somebody made four years ago > >>>>>> (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/338), but I don't see > >>>>>> > >>>>> anything > >>>>> > >>>>>> more recent. There are packages for Player and Stage in a couple of > >>>>>> distributions already, and there are several examples included with > >>>>>> > >>>>> Player, > >>>>> > >>>>>> with more on the internet. As far as other tools for robotics, I'm > not > >>>>>> really sure what you have in mind. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rich > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: kingwinter [mailto:kin...@gm...] > >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:02 AM > >>>>>> To: pla...@li... > >>>>>> Subject: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and > robotics > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> hi, there > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Do we have a VMware image for preinstalled player stage and some > tools > >>>>>> > >>>>> for > >>>>> > >>>>>> robotics? It would be very helpful for newbie. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> kingwinter > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> View this message in context: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p2 > >>>>> > >>>>>> 8619690.html > >>>>>> Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list > >>>>>> Pla...@li... > >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list > >>>>>> Pla...@li... > >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list > >>>>> Pla...@li... > >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Piotr Trojanek > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Playerstage-users mailing list > >>>> Pla...@li... > >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Playerstage-users mailing list > >> Pla...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Playerstage-users mailing list > > Pla...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > -- Piotr Trojanek |
From: Richard V. <va...@sf...> - 2010-05-23 19:02:48
|
I agree strongly with Rich Mattes. The best thing we can do to help noobs is to make the build and installation process as smooth and easy as possible. Cross-platform building is hard work, and as Player has grown it is not as easy to build as it used to be. Perhaps we could discuss ideas to improve things. One idea is maybe a more cautious/minimal default build, with many of the extras disabled unless explicitly requested. I've never used half of the languages for which I've built support hundreds of times. It's even more extreme for the drivers. The core of Player is small and could build in a few seconds. - rtv On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Rich Mattes <jp...@gm...> wrote: > Say someone goes and creates an Ubuntu 10.04 VMware image today, with > the latest releases of Player, Stage, Gearbox, Gazebo, etc. installed > from source. As soon as a new release of one of the programs comes out, > with really desirable feature X, the whole VMware idea falls apart. The > user that downloaded the VMware image has to know to go to the source > directory, run a make uninstall, download the new tarball, configure it, > and build it, and then rebuild and re-install any other dependencies. > Or, whoever made the VMware image has to go in, rebuild, and then upload > a new appliance, which means that the user will lose all of his or her > data in the old VMware image. This is what we're seeing with the VMware > images and LiveCDs we're digging up. Software gets out of date, users > can't upgrade, image maintainers move on to other things. > > I think the best answer is to get Player and Stage packaged and included > in distributions. Most of the problems that come up on this list seem > to be with strange compilation errors and misconfigured build > environments (and most of them are from Ubuntu users). If Player and > Stage were available as binaries, the only obstacle one needs to > overcome is to search for and install the program from the distro's > package manager. > > Not being part of the Debian/Ubuntu community, I'm not sure how the > packaging/sharing setup works. It looks like Ubuntu inherited Player > 2.0.5 from Debian, with no new versions since. If I get some time, I > might try to track down the maintainers and see if new versions can be > made available. > > There's a small table on the wiki[1] that's mostly up to date, showing > interesting robotics packages that are already packaged for different > distributions. > > Rich > > [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/LinuxRoboticsStudio > > > > On 5/23/2010 5:11 AM, Paul Osmialowski wrote: >> This was somewhat interesting project and they also released livecd with >> Player and Stage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kerl/files >> Unfortunately, I can't see any progress there. I guess every live image >> project shares the same fate. >> >> Paul >> >> On Sun, 23 May 2010, Geoff Biggs wrote: >> >> >>> http://robobuntu.diiga.univpm.it/ >>> >>> Looks like they didn't go any further after publishing their ICRA paper. >>> >>> Geoff >>> >>> On 23/05/10 07:40, kingwinter wrote: >>> >>>> What I can see from this forum is that VMware image is very necessary to >>>> avoid the hassle during installation. >>>> >>>> I suggest to build a linux image based on Ubuntu which is the most widely >>>> used linux system. Apart from installing P/S/G, other tools I can think to >>>> install are >>>> >>>> pyro: http://pyrorobotics.org/?page=Pyro >>>> python robotics, with easy simulation environment. It can work with player >>>> and >>>> The Mobile Robot Programming Toolkit (MRPT) >>>> MRPT: http://babel.isa.uma.es/mrpt/index.php/Main_Page >>>> a library for mobile robot SLAM algorithm. The tested robot platform is not >>>> player. But I suppose it should be ok to work with player. Does anyone have >>>> suggestion on MRPT? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Piotr Trojanek wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think this is where actually VMWare comes into play! >>>>> >>>>> It is easier for students to run VMWare on their fancy laptops, than for a >>>>> dist packager >>>>> to include latest hardware support in a live DVD. >>>>> >>>>> There is a lot of posts on this mailing lists about "howto get P/S/G >>>>> running >>>>> on my distro???". >>>>> Maybe this is even a majority of all posts! I wonder if this is no more >>>>> important issue >>>>> than any other new neat feature... >>>>> >>>>> Piotr >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 17:41, Paul Osmialowski >>>>> <new...@ki...>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Once I made Robodisk DVD - using Gentoo Catalyst which contained Player, >>>>>> Stage, Gazebo and all dependencies (as in >>>>>> http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/~vlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt<http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/%7Evlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt>- >>>>>> this is for >>>>>> Player-3.x while my disk contained Player-2.0.3) togetger with GNOME, >>>>>> Firefox, mplayer, lots of scripting languages and even OpenOffice suite. >>>>>> It needed so much work and soon became obsolete as it couldn't start on >>>>>> latest laptops bought by my students. I never released newer version, too >>>>>> much work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 21 May 2010, Rich Mattes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's possible. In fact, creating a Fedora Robotics LiveCD is one of >>>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>>> goals of the Fedora Robotics SIG, once we get enough programs packaged >>>>>>> >>>>>> for >>>>>> >>>>>>> Fedora. The latest releases Player and Stage are already packaged, but >>>>>>> we're still working on Gazebo, and maybe on contributing some >>>>>>> tutorial/example kind of stuff. It's simple enough to generate a >>>>>>> >>>>>> LiveCD >>>>>> >>>>>>> using Revisor in Fedora, but we'd need to find somewhere to host it and >>>>>>> >>>>>> keep >>>>>> >>>>>>> it maintained, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For now, you can download a Fedora LiveCD from release 11 on, and use >>>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>>> package manager to install the latest versions of Player and Stage. >>>>>>> >>>>>> There's >>>>>> >>>>>>> directions on the Player wiki[1] on how to get up and running. I've >>>>>>> >>>>>> been >>>>>> >>>>>>> using both heavily on Fedora 12 over the past couple of months and I >>>>>>> >>>>>> haven't >>>>>> >>>>>>> encountered any major problems. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rich >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/Download >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Arkapravo Bhaumik [mailto:ark...@gm...] >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:54 AM >>>>>>> To: pla...@li... >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and >>>>>>> >>>>>> robotics >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it possible to make our own iso, with selected dependencies, Unix >>>>>>> (flavour and version) and the version of Player-Stage-Gazebo etc ? It >>>>>>> >>>>>> may >>>>>> be >>>>>> >>>>>>> a great help to Player Project Noobs ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20/05/2010, Rich Mattes<jp...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right now there's no official vmware image. A quick google search >>>>>>> >>>>>> turned >>>>>> up >>>>>> >>>>>>> one somebody made four years ago >>>>>>> (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/338), but I don't see >>>>>>> >>>>>> anything >>>>>> >>>>>>> more recent. There are packages for Player and Stage in a couple of >>>>>>> distributions already, and there are several examples included with >>>>>>> >>>>>> Player, >>>>>> >>>>>>> with more on the internet. As far as other tools for robotics, I'm not >>>>>>> really sure what you have in mind. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rich >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: kingwinter [mailto:kin...@gm...] >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:02 AM >>>>>>> To: pla...@li... >>>>>>> Subject: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and robotics >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hi, there >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do we have a VMware image for preinstalled player stage and some tools >>>>>>> >>>>>> for >>>>>> >>>>>>> robotics? It would be very helpful for newbie. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> kingwinter >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p2 >>>>>> >>>>>>> 8619690.html >>>>>>> Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>>>>> Pla...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>>>>> Pla...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>>>> Pla...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Piotr Trojanek >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>>> Pla...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>> Pla...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Playerstage-users mailing list >> Pla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > -- Richard Vaughan Autonomy Lab / Computing Science / Simon Fraser University |
From: Paul O. <new...@ki...> - 2010-05-23 19:55:46
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Build profiles (embedded, minimal, full) would be nice feature for that. I wonder if it would be hard to implement for ccmake. Paul On Sun, 23 May 2010, Richard Vaughan wrote: > I agree strongly with Rich Mattes. The best thing we can do to help > noobs is to make the build and installation process as smooth and easy > as possible. Cross-platform building is > hard work, and as Player has grown it is not as easy to build as it > used to be. Perhaps we could discuss ideas to improve things. > > One idea is maybe a more cautious/minimal default build, with many of > the extras disabled unless explicitly requested. I've never used half > of the languages for which I've built support hundreds of times. It's > even more extreme for the drivers. The core of Player is small and > could build in a few seconds. > > - rtv > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Rich Mattes <jp...@gm...> wrote: >> Say someone goes and creates an Ubuntu 10.04 VMware image today, with >> the latest releases of Player, Stage, Gearbox, Gazebo, etc. installed >> from source. As soon as a new release of one of the programs comes out, >> with really desirable feature X, the whole VMware idea falls apart. The >> user that downloaded the VMware image has to know to go to the source >> directory, run a make uninstall, download the new tarball, configure it, >> and build it, and then rebuild and re-install any other dependencies. >> Or, whoever made the VMware image has to go in, rebuild, and then upload >> a new appliance, which means that the user will lose all of his or her >> data in the old VMware image. This is what we're seeing with the VMware >> images and LiveCDs we're digging up. Software gets out of date, users >> can't upgrade, image maintainers move on to other things. >> >> I think the best answer is to get Player and Stage packaged and included >> in distributions. Most of the problems that come up on this list seem >> to be with strange compilation errors and misconfigured build >> environments (and most of them are from Ubuntu users). If Player and >> Stage were available as binaries, the only obstacle one needs to >> overcome is to search for and install the program from the distro's >> package manager. >> >> Not being part of the Debian/Ubuntu community, I'm not sure how the >> packaging/sharing setup works. It looks like Ubuntu inherited Player >> 2.0.5 from Debian, with no new versions since. If I get some time, I >> might try to track down the maintainers and see if new versions can be >> made available. >> >> There's a small table on the wiki[1] that's mostly up to date, showing >> interesting robotics packages that are already packaged for different >> distributions. >> >> Rich >> >> [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/LinuxRoboticsStudio >> >> >> >> On 5/23/2010 5:11 AM, Paul Osmialowski wrote: >>> This was somewhat interesting project and they also released livecd with >>> Player and Stage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kerl/files >>> Unfortunately, I can't see any progress there. I guess every live image >>> project shares the same fate. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On Sun, 23 May 2010, Geoff Biggs wrote: >>> >>> >>>> http://robobuntu.diiga.univpm.it/ >>>> >>>> Looks like they didn't go any further after publishing their ICRA paper. >>>> >>>> Geoff >>>> >>>> On 23/05/10 07:40, kingwinter wrote: >>>> >>>>> What I can see from this forum is that VMware image is very necessary to >>>>> avoid the hassle during installation. >>>>> >>>>> I suggest to build a linux image based on Ubuntu which is the most widely >>>>> used linux system. Apart from installing P/S/G, other tools I can think to >>>>> install are >>>>> >>>>> pyro: http://pyrorobotics.org/?page=Pyro >>>>> python robotics, with easy simulation environment. It can work with player >>>>> and >>>>> The Mobile Robot Programming Toolkit (MRPT) >>>>> MRPT: http://babel.isa.uma.es/mrpt/index.php/Main_Page >>>>> a library for mobile robot SLAM algorithm. The tested robot platform is not >>>>> player. But I suppose it should be ok to work with player. Does anyone have >>>>> suggestion on MRPT? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Piotr Trojanek wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think this is where actually VMWare comes into play! >>>>>> >>>>>> It is easier for students to run VMWare on their fancy laptops, than for a >>>>>> dist packager >>>>>> to include latest hardware support in a live DVD. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a lot of posts on this mailing lists about "howto get P/S/G >>>>>> running >>>>>> on my distro???". >>>>>> Maybe this is even a majority of all posts! I wonder if this is no more >>>>>> important issue >>>>>> than any other new neat feature... >>>>>> >>>>>> Piotr >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 17:41, Paul Osmialowski >>>>>> <new...@ki...>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Once I made Robodisk DVD - using Gentoo Catalyst which contained Player, >>>>>>> Stage, Gazebo and all dependencies (as in >>>>>>> http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/~vlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt<http://vlab.pjwstk.edu.pl/%7Evlabdemo/psg/player3deps.txt>- >>>>>>> this is for >>>>>>> Player-3.x while my disk contained Player-2.0.3) togetger with GNOME, >>>>>>> Firefox, mplayer, lots of scripting languages and even OpenOffice suite. >>>>>>> It needed so much work and soon became obsolete as it couldn't start on >>>>>>> latest laptops bought by my students. I never released newer version, too >>>>>>> much work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 21 May 2010, Rich Mattes wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's possible. In fact, creating a Fedora Robotics LiveCD is one of >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> goals of the Fedora Robotics SIG, once we get enough programs packaged >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fedora. The latest releases Player and Stage are already packaged, but >>>>>>>> we're still working on Gazebo, and maybe on contributing some >>>>>>>> tutorial/example kind of stuff. It's simple enough to generate a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> LiveCD >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> using Revisor in Fedora, but we'd need to find somewhere to host it and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> keep >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it maintained, etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For now, you can download a Fedora LiveCD from release 11 on, and use >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> package manager to install the latest versions of Player and Stage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> directions on the Player wiki[1] on how to get up and running. I've >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> been >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> using both heavily on Fedora 12 over the past couple of months and I >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> haven't >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> encountered any major problems. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rich >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1]: http://playerstage.sourceforge.net/wiki/Download >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Arkapravo Bhaumik [mailto:ark...@gm...] >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:54 AM >>>>>>>> To: pla...@li... >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> robotics >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is it possible to make our own iso, with selected dependencies, Unix >>>>>>>> (flavour and version) and the version of Player-Stage-Gazebo etc ? It >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> may >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a great help to Player Project Noobs ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 20/05/2010, Rich Mattes<jp...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Right now there's no official vmware image. A quick google search >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> turned >>>>>>> up >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> one somebody made four years ago >>>>>>>> (http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/338), but I don't see >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> anything >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> more recent. There are packages for Player and Stage in a couple of >>>>>>>> distributions already, and there are several examples included with >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Player, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> with more on the internet. As far as other tools for robotics, I'm not >>>>>>>> really sure what you have in mind. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rich >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: kingwinter [mailto:kin...@gm...] >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:02 AM >>>>>>>> To: pla...@li... >>>>>>>> Subject: [Playerstage-users] VMware image of player/stage and robotics >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hi, there >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do we have a VMware image for preinstalled player stage and some tools >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> robotics? It would be very helpful for newbie. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> kingwinter >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 8619690.html >>>>>>>> Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>>>>>> Pla...@li... >>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>>>>>> Pla...@li... >>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>>>>> Pla...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Piotr Trojanek >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>>>> Pla...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>>> Pla...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>> Pla...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Playerstage-users mailing list >> Pla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >> > > > > -- > Richard Vaughan > Autonomy Lab / Computing Science / Simon Fraser University > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > |
From: Arkapravo B. <ark...@gm...> - 2010-05-24 03:25:20
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As Geoff Biggs pointed out, robobuntu <http://robobuntu.diiga.univpm.it/>seems as a wonderful project, unifying PSG, Aria, MobileSIM and Carmen. We sure need a 'live' project like that. I guess that with OpenCV integration SLAM etc can be done much easily, than trying hard to make dependencies marry ! On 23 May 2010 13:33, Geoff Biggs <gb...@ki...> wrote: > http://robobuntu.diiga.univpm.it/ > > Looks like they didn't go any further after publishing their ICRA paper. > > Geoff > > |
From: Arkapravo B. <ark...@gm...> - 2010-05-31 02:54:24
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Is there any iso/ VMWare image which has Gazebo installed into it ? It would sure make my life lot less miserable. |
From: Piotr T. <pio...@gm...> - 2010-05-31 22:04:08
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I am afraid it would be difficult to get a reasonable performance from Gazebo under VMWare, because of virtualized graphics card... On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 04:53, Arkapravo Bhaumik <ark...@gm... > wrote: > > Is there any iso/ VMWare image which has Gazebo installed into it ? It > would sure make my life lot less miserable. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > > -- Piotr Trojanek |
From: Arkapravo B. <ark...@gm...> - 2010-06-01 02:06:37
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Thanks Piotr Trojanek, I had heard about this issue with Gazebo and did not try it with Virtual Box. However, I was looking for an iso which has Gazebo installed into it. Then I can install that in a partition of my hard drive. Any suggestions are welcome. On 1 June 2010 03:34, Piotr Trojanek <pio...@gm...> wrote: > I am afraid it would be difficult to get a reasonable performance from > Gazebo under VMWare, > because of virtualized graphics card... > > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 04:53, Arkapravo Bhaumik < > ark...@gm...> wrote: > >> >> Is there any iso/ VMWare image which has Gazebo installed into it ? It >> would sure make my life lot less miserable. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Playerstage-users mailing list >> Pla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >> >> > > > -- > Piotr Trojanek > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > > -- Arkapravo Bhaumik Website : http://3chevrons.blogspot.com/, http://mobotica.blogspot.com/ E-mail : ark...@gm... Twitter : @abhaumik Facebook : Arkapravo Bhaumik |
From: Arkapravo B. <ark...@gm...> - 2010-06-06 09:32:22
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Hi Has anyone used robobuntu <http://robobuntu.diiga.univpm.it/> ? I just downloaded it. Regards Arkapravo |
From: Manos T. <ets...@au...> - 2010-06-16 13:22:55
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I also downloaded it , but i couldn't make player work.. Manos Arkapravo Bhaumik wrote: > Apparently ROBOBUNTU doesn't works ! ...... did it work for anyone ?? > My observations were that it doesn't have Player or Stage installed > into it. > > > On 6 June 2010 15:01, Arkapravo Bhaumik <ark...@gm... > <mailto:ark...@gm...>> wrote: > > Hi > > Has anyone used robobuntu <http://robobuntu.diiga.univpm.it/> ? I > just downloaded it. > > Regards > > Arkapravo > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > |
From: kingwinter <kin...@gm...> - 2010-06-16 13:55:43
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I am going to build a VMware image for downloading. I tried robobuntu before it doesn't work well. Kingwinter Tsardoulias Manos wrote: > > I also downloaded it , but i couldn't make player work.. > > Manos > > Arkapravo Bhaumik wrote: >> Apparently ROBOBUNTU doesn't works ! ...... did it work for anyone ?? >> My observations were that it doesn't have Player or Stage installed >> into it. >> >> >> On 6 June 2010 15:01, Arkapravo Bhaumik <ark...@gm... >> <mailto:ark...@gm...>> wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> Has anyone used robobuntu <http://robobuntu.diiga.univpm.it/> ? I >> just downloaded it. >> >> Regards >> >> Arkapravo >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate >> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the >> lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Playerstage-users mailing list >> Pla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p28903070.html Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: kingwinter <kin...@gm...> - 2010-06-16 21:50:22
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Here is a VMware image of Ubuntu with player 3.0.1 and stage 3.2.2 installed. download the image file from: http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~jliu4/RobotPlayerVmware.7z it is 2.7Gbits download the read me from: http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~jliu4/README.txt Start from README please. Enjoy it. Kingwinter kingwinter wrote: > > I am going to build a VMware image for downloading. I tried robobuntu > before it doesn't work well. > > Kingwinter > > Tsardoulias Manos wrote: >> >> I also downloaded it , but i couldn't make player work.. >> >> Manos >> >> Arkapravo Bhaumik wrote: >>> Apparently ROBOBUNTU doesn't works ! ...... did it work for anyone ?? >>> My observations were that it doesn't have Player or Stage installed >>> into it. >>> >>> >>> On 6 June 2010 15:01, Arkapravo Bhaumik <ark...@gm... >>> <mailto:ark...@gm...>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Has anyone used robobuntu <http://robobuntu.diiga.univpm.it/> ? I >>> just downloaded it. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Arkapravo >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate >>> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the >>> lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Playerstage-users mailing list >>> Pla...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate >> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the >> lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo >> _______________________________________________ >> Playerstage-users mailing list >> Pla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users >> >> > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p28908119.html Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Arkapravo B. <ark...@gm...> - 2011-05-21 04:39:43
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Hi Kingwinter The link is no more working, can you please update it ? Regards Arkapravo On 17 June 2010 03:20, kingwinter <kin...@gm...> wrote: > > Here is a VMware image of Ubuntu with player 3.0.1 and stage 3.2.2 > installed. > > download the image file from: > http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~jliu4/RobotPlayerVmware.7z > it is 2.7Gbits > download the read me from: > http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~jliu4/README.txt > > Start from README please. Enjoy it. > > Kingwinter > > -- Arkapravo Bhaumik E-mail : ark...@gm... Blogs : http://mobotica.blogspot.com/, http://3chevrons.blogspot.com/ Twitter : @abhaumik Facebook : ark...@fa... Skype : arkapravo |
From: kingwinter <kin...@gm...> - 2011-05-23 09:55:55
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I have updated it. Try it now. Arkapravo Bhaumik wrote: > > Hi Kingwinter > > The link is no more working, can you please update it ? > > Regards > > Arkapravo > > On 17 June 2010 03:20, kingwinter <kin...@gm...> wrote: > >> >> Here is a VMware image of Ubuntu with player 3.0.1 and stage 3.2.2 >> installed. >> >> download the image file from: >> http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~jliu4/RobotPlayerVmware.7z >> it is 2.7Gbits >> download the read me from: >> http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~jliu4/README.txt >> >> Start from README please. Enjoy it. >> >> Kingwinter >> >> > -- > Arkapravo Bhaumik > E-mail : ark...@gm... > Blogs : http://mobotica.blogspot.com/, http://3chevrons.blogspot.com/ > Twitter : @abhaumik > Facebook : ark...@fa... > Skype : arkapravo > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > What Every C/C++ and Fortran developer Should Know! > Read this article and learn how Intel has extended the reach of its > next-generation tools to help Windows* and Linux* C/C++ and Fortran > developers boost performance applications - including clusters. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay > _______________________________________________ > Playerstage-users mailing list > Pla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/playerstage-users > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/VMware-image-of-player-stage-and-robotics-tp28619690p31679453.html Sent from the playerstage-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Arkapravo B. <ark...@gm...> - 2011-05-23 10:21:57
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Could not download - my download manager could not connect to it (says 'Connecting' for a long time) . On 23 May 2011 15:25, kingwinter <kin...@gm...> wrote: > > I have updated it. Try it now. > > > |