Re: [Gaim-i18n] Re: Bad language in Gaim

[Sean E. <sea...@gm...>]

I'm reminded of http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/translation.html

By the way: Dy'er Mak'er is a song by Led Zeppelin.

-s.

On 4/25/06, Richard Laager <rl...@wi...> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 09:32 +0200, Bjoern Voigt wrote:
>
> I said I expect translators to fully understand what they're
> translating. If it's not obvious and there aren't comments (which, I
> agree, there could be more), then ask. I don't think that's unreasonable
> at all. Ask about the string here.
>
> You asked. That was exactly what I was suggesting.
>
> My other point was that we're not always going to change the English
> strings to make literal translations easy. If Gaim was written in German
> and you used German idioms, I wouldn't expect you to change it to make
> the English translation easier. I'd figure out what it meant and then
> translate it into something appropriate.
>
> > 1) What means "you can see the butterflies mating" in src/gtkaccount.c:=
1297?
> >
> >    Answer:
>
> It's in a callback function that's registered as a pop-up handler for
> the port entry field in proxy options. Right-click on that field and
> you'll see the string. I'd assume easter egg. (NOTE: I had never seen
> this code before I looked at it just now.)
>
> If I was a translator, I probably wouldn't bother with it. Or, I'd take
> the opportunity to translate it to a cutesy saying in my language and
> enjoy the fact that I know there's a "hidden" string which I created.
>
> > 2) Why is Syd Logan a "lazy bum" in AUTHORS and in src/gtkdialogs.c:100=
?
> >
> >    Answer:
>
> I've always assumed inside joke.
>
> > 3) What is a "TOC host" in src/protocols/toc/toc.c?
> >
> >    Answer:
>
> Without looking, I'd assume a server for the TOC protocol.
>
> > 4) What does "SSL Handshake Failed" in src/protocols/irc/irc.c:432 and =
src/protocols/jabber/jabber.c:451 mean?
> >
> >    Answer:
>
> The process of negotiating an SSL connection failed. This is standard
> technical jargon.
>
> > 5) What is a "Channel HMAC" in src/protocols/silc/chat.c?
> >
> >    Answer:
>
> Without looking, I'm not sure if channel means chat or a communications
> channel (the connection). But HMAC is a standard technical term.
>
> ... Looking at the source, it's immediately clear (given Channel Topic
> is right there) that this is talking about a "channel" as in "chat".
>
> > 6) What does ""You feel a disturbance in the force..." in plugins/psych=
ic.c means?
>
> Feels like a Star Wars quote to me and Google confirms that. (NOTE: I'm
> probably in the minority of Americans here, but I've never seen any of
> the Star Wars movies.)
>
> If you knew, or could find, the translation of that quote in Star Wars
> for your language, that might work. Otherwise, this type of cultural
> reference is hard to deal with. If you can't think of a fun cultural
> reference that users of your translation will understand, I'd suggest
> using a translated version of something boring like, "Your psychic
> powers say you are about to receive a message." or something.
>
> > 7) Why Ethan calls the psychic plugin a stalker plugin?
> >
> >    "If we're going to support crappy stalker-enablement plugins, we sho=
uld at least make an effort to ensure that they don't require C99."
> >
> >    (from  svn log plugins/psychic.c)
> >
> >    Answer:
>
> Because it pops up a conversation window when someone starts typing to
> you have not previously had a conversation open. There's hardly a
> legitimate need for that -- you'll be getting the message in a few
> seconds when they send it.
>
>
> I can't find any good documentation on adding "translation comments" to
> gettext. I see them mentioned all over the place, especially in
> reference to .po files, but I don't know how to add them. Granted, I
> haven't looked that hard. If someone has a reference, we could add a
> translation comment to #6 and maybe #2.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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