Re: [Phpwiki-talk] Re: need help with cvs, unable to move a directory :-(

[Adam S. <ad...@pe...>]

> Ooph.  {{{text}}} is ugly.

yep.  maybe |text| or will that mess with table rendering?  or >text< i'm
just trying to think of what could be used.  &text& or %text% none are
particularly intuitive.  at least ``text`` kinda fits in with past schemes
though it also lends to confusion since most people are bad at spotting
the differences and in fact some browser font rendering makes it almost
impossible to tell the difference.

> Usemod supports <tt></tt>, <b></b>, <i></i>, <em></em>,
> <strong></strong>, and also supports the legacy ''italic'' and
> '''bold'''.  I don't know if there are alternate forms for <tt> (I
> don't think so).

that would work though i like not having to type html tags.

another thought, i don't like the leading whitespace for mono-spaced text
at all because it means that "^ *" doesn't begin a list and that's pretty
confusing i think.  if supporting <tt>text</tt> could mean doing away
leading white space for mono that would be great and leading whitespace
could stop being significant.

> Maybe not.  I think the above syntaxes could be added without breaking
> the older syntaxes (at least not much), so we could have it all.

maybe an option to activate old syntax and at some point make the new
syntax standard?  there's a lot of good thoughts on meatball about wiki
syntax ... i think a lot of this stuff has evolved since wiki markup was
first invented and certainly the purposes for which wiki's have used do
to.

another thing i'd really like is an alternate table syntax i stubled
across on NiKki (a moin spin off).  the way all the wiki's i know of
renders tables gets *really* hard to maintain as tables get more complex.
if you want an example check this page and edit it:

  http://www.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/Prism2Card

i like the idea of treating tables like lists so you could make a table
like this:

* table heading
** row one
*** column one
*** column two
** row two
*** etc ...

i'm not sure of the exact syntax that NiKki uses and you'd have to make
sure that it was able to tell teh difference between lists and tables, but
i think it would be *much* nicer to maintain tables that way, and
sometimes tables are the only way to effectively present data.  on the
prism2card page we started with lists and it was visually overwhelming and
hard to find the information you wanted (let alone cross reference it with
anything else).

> It's true that I can't imagine very many circumstances where one would
> want monospaced WikiWords.  However, I think it's just plain confusing
> if italicizing and emboldening behave differently than monospacing.
> (Unless the markup gives more specific hints that other magic is going
> on, e.g. <code>ThisIsNotaWikiWord</code>.)

fair enough.  maybe limited support for certain html tags would make sense
then?

adam.