Re: [Phpwiki-talk] misc pending patches / restructuring

[Steve W. <sw...@wc...>]

On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Arno Hollosi wrote:

> 
> Nested DefinitionLists by Neil Brown:
> Looks ok.
> Note: this still relies on tabs. I think we should get rid of tabs ASAP.

When I added tabless syntax, I skipped term/defs because there was no
clear solution, and nobody uses them (even on c2.com, and in regular HTML
pages). Ward probably coded them in in 1995 when people were still
exploring HTML and might have used them. Anyhow, I will take a look at
that too tonight. There should be a simple syntactic solution.
 
> SearchType patch by Neil Brown:
> The actual patch is ok. If a search box should be included in the default 
> browse.html should be discussed.

I'm leary of adding much to browse.html. I have played with it quite a bit
and never liked additions. Jakob Neilsen (useit.com) recommends that the
logo be in the upper left and link to the home page, and the search box be
in the upper right (based on convention and usability studies.) I haven't
worked out a layout like that yet.

Search should be redesigned as well; page title searches are somewhat
unconventional (then again, so are Wikis) and there is no sophistication
to the full text search... but then I may be speculating about gold
plating, and PhpWiki does well where it's simple. I will go into more
detail on this at at later date.

> Email notification of page changes by Jochen Causemann:
> Jochen's solution has some merits, but drawbacks as well. In his patch email 
> addresses are stored in the WikiPage themselves. This means that not only are 
> these email addresses public, but anyone can remove other's addresses by 
> editing the page. 

and worse, adding other people's emails...

> I opt for the PyWiki approach, in which addresses are 
> stored outside the document. Also, I'd like to have the option to either 
> receive wiki-markup or html emails. And (for those wiki addicts): the 
> possibility to subscribe to all pages / or given sets of pages.
> I think we should hold off this feature for some more time.. First we should 
> get other things in order, then add user-management (which will also include 
> email notification).

Agreed; would you object to including the patch but leaving it disabled by
default? Wikis on intranets would not face malicious user problems (in
theory ;-)
 
> I think the next thing we should do is clean up the db interface (borrow the 
> good stuff from Jeff's branch) and integrate Jan's localization patch. Wrt 
> Jan's patch the open question is still how we should deal with templates. I'm 
> not convinced yet, that turning the templates into php files is a good thing.

I have to extract Jeff's branch again and recommit it... CVS removes a
file for all branches, so as it is right now you cannot really check out
Jeff's copy. It will just require some magic CVS incantations.

sw

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