[openorb-devel] Fwd: Re: Asking for Italio's stand regarding the OpenORB donation

[Joncheng K. <ck...@sy...>]

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Subject: Re: Asking for Italio's stand regarding the OpenORB donation
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:50:15 -0700
From: Greg Stein <gs...@ap...>
To: Thierry Koehrlen <tk...@in...>
CC: Joncheng Kuo <ck...@sy...>, mcc...@ap..., pi...@ap...
References: <3F4...@sy...> <3F4...@in...>


Hey Thierry,

I understand that might be the desired position, but I'm not sure how we
can manage that. In your last request, you said that we don't need to
worry about "click thru" licensing outside of the ASF. Only on the initial
distribution. However, that still implies a few things:

1) the software won't be available via the normal Apache mirroring system
2) we need to develop the appropriate click through software
3) our CVS servers are fully world-readable, so the click-thru is not
   available on that distro mechanism (just the normal license)

I don't see that any of that is feasible from the ASF's standpoint. We
don't do that with *any* of our software.

Further, I don't see why you're asking for this. You don't have any of
these "binding" agreements with end-users anyways, given the current
arrangement on SourceForge. If anything, *not* moving to the ASF leaves
you in a more vulnerable state because there isn't a corporate entity
asserting ownership of the OpenORB codebase. I'm not understanding the
reasoning behind trying to apply more restrictions on access to the code.

Cheers,
-g

On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 03:23:33AM -0700, Thierry Koehrlen wrote:
> Yes Joncheng it should be like that, that why we are trying to say with the appropriate
> language
> tk
> tk
> 
> Joncheng Kuo wrote:
> 
> > Hi, Thierry,
> >
> > Thank you for Intalio's support for donating the OpenORB source code to
> > the Apache Software Foundation. Could you spend some time to explain to
> > us (the OpenORB community) about the Intalio's stand regarding the
> > donation? In particular, what would be the possible licensing
> > procedure/practice that are acceptable to Intalio if the donation is
> > completed? Currently, the OpenORB Community project on the SourceForge
> > includes the Exolab license from Intalio, but there is no requirements for
> > the users of OpenORB to click on "I Accept" before the users download or
> > use the software. Will there be changes if the OpenORB project is moved
> > from SourceForge to Apache?
> >
> > Thank you in advance for your time and effort in reading and answering my questions.
> >
> > Joncheng Kuo
> 
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