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[openMSX-devel] [ openmsx-Feature Requests-3031332 ] MSX models are too european-centric for a japanese standard
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2010-11-20 00:56:59
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Feature Requests item #3031332, was opened at 2010-07-18 17:52 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by sd-snatcher You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=421864&aid=3031332&group_id=38274 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: MSX devices support Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: FRS (sd-snatcher) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: MSX models are too european-centric for a japanese standard Initial Comment: Please don't get angry, but the current configuration of all MSX machines available on openMSX is too european-centric for a japanese standard as is the MSX. Many models had both japanese and european versions, but they only have european configurations on openMSX. Examples: - Toshiba HX-10 - Sanyo MPC-100 And many others. A japanese user of openMSX will not recognize those machines as they're configured and think that there's an emulation problem. Maybe this (together with the default machines being also european) is one of the factors that contributes to many people reporting that "it doesn't feel realistic": http://www.msx.org/forumtopic11165p15.html There should be an easy way to select between the japanese and european model of the same machine without having to duplicate all those machines. The only difference between the japanese and european versions of the same machine usually is only the VDP and the ROMs. For MSX2 models, only the ROMs change. And off course, the default model on the shared configuration should be the japanese model, because those machines were designed on Japan an only later adapted for the european market. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: FRS (sd-snatcher) Date: 2010-11-19 22:56 Message: C-BIOS MSX2 and MSX2+ also defaults to 50Hz, which is the european standard. This confuses a lot of japanese and brazilian users, as they just think openMSX run games slower than a real machine. Just remember that C-BIOS is the only BIOS available when a newbie installs openMSX for the 1st time. Jazzin is even having to warn NekoLauncher users that this "slowness" is caused by the C-BIOS, as you can see here: http://nekocan.sitemix.jp/?p=693 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: FRS (sd-snatcher) Date: 2010-07-18 20:53 Message: The blueMSX site has a lot of ROMdumps of machines that are not supported by openMSX yet. That can probably help too: http://www.vik.cc/bluemsx/resource.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: FRS (sd-snatcher) Date: 2010-07-18 20:49 Message: I believe that one problem in obtaining ROM dumps is that the current way requires a lot of technical skill from the owner of the machine. One way to make things easier would be to include with openMSX one tool that scans the entire MSX and try to generate the XML file and romdumps of it. This way I believe that japanese guys we know, like Ikeda and Jazzin (NekoLauncher), could help dumping the machines they have. I know there are machines that have megaroms inside, but how many different mappers there are? Wouldn't be that hard to test each slot for megarom types. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Manuel Bilderbeek (manuelbi) Date: 2010-07-18 17:59 Message: If we would get our hands on ROM images and other info that would enable us to make the machine configurations for these machines, we would. The stuff mentioned in that thread has nothing to do with this tracker item, though. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=421864&aid=3031332&group_id=38274 |