From: Richard T. <tra...@ya...> - 2008-02-28 16:18:30
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Hi Martin, I've just understood your suggestion to use the file-write element. In fact, I was unaware of this option after unwisely assuming all elements were listed under insert element---all. Indeed, the file-write is under ----target. Sorry for the miscommunication, and thankyou for the resources provided. After creating an ASCII txt file, integer or float, and connected to a magnitude element, I assume the values written are representative of amplitudes of frequencies within the defined range? Richard ----- Original Message ---- From: Martin Sona <mar...@gm...> To: ope...@li... Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:59:30 PM Subject: Re: [Openeeg-list] Data aquisition plus quantitative analysis- possible on brainbay or others? Hi Richard I am personally tackling very similar problems and would be very happy to share the information I already obtained. I am also, of course, very interested in what you already planned in terms of the setup, hardware etc. What many of us will probably interest most is: will you document your progress online? > Two groups will be present, one with diagnosed ADD/ADHD and a control. Wow, you get an actual sample of diagnosed subjects for an undergraduate project? Quite impressive ressources! > 1. If BrainBay is designed or is easily capable of being modified in a shortime, I would of course prefer to go this route. A foundation > with filter elements present is oh-so-helpful in this matter. I don't know 'that' much about programming, but I can ensure you that BrainBay, in deed, is modifiable. If you want to expand its signal processing capabilities maybe you should have a look at this excellect compendium about signal processing which is freely available online at: http://dspguide.com/ I would recommend to make a setup in BrainBay which includes a Write File element. You can make this element write an ASCII file consisting of your values (whatever they are, just connect to the write file element you can make all the filtering before writing to file). This file is easily importable with SPSS (which I use, too). > 2.1. Software capable of providing bins of frequencies capable of analysis What exactly do you mean by that? You can filter frequency spactra which amplitudes you can let BrainBay write to a file. (Which is in turn readable by SPSS (or any other statistical analysis software). You can also use EEGlab (if you're not familiar with it, it's an open source expansion for MatLab) but it's very advanced and specific I don't know if it is practical to use. Yet it has some features which other programs don't soupport yet. My recommendation: - Use BrainBay to record raw or filtered (--> http://uazu.net/fiview/) data into an ASCII File and maybe an archive with video to inspect movements of your subjects later. - Import data into EEGlab and do artifact reduction (see literature). Select and export the data you want to analyse. - Now load this data back into BrainBay and a file which directly contains the variables you want to measure (eg. amplitude of alpha band) by adding modules in BrainBay in between the source and the 'file write' element. - Analyse data with SPSS. I assume that you have searched the journals for what to look for? If not, I have picked some examples (see below). If you have access to a university internet access it should be no problem to access them. Further, i can only recommend this book: http://www.amazon.de/dp/0789033607?tag=gsrmonkeyblog-21&camp=1410&creative=6378&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0789033607&adid=0ADPA6QX773M0Q39NT77& Success, have fun and keep us updated :-) Greetz M.S. David M. Alexander, Daniel F. Hermens, Hannah A.D. Keage, C. Richard Clark, Leanne M. Williams, Michael R. Kohn, Simon D. Clarke, Chris Lamb and Evian Gordon, Event-related wave activity in the EEG provides new marker of ADHD, Clinical NeurophysiologyVolume 119, Issue 1, , January 2008, Pages 163-179. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6VNP-4R7D030-1/2/62e9b3bbe571f3f3693b29050cdd0035) Keywords: EEG; ADHD; Phase dynamics; Hyperactivity/Impulsivity; Stimulant medication Humberto Quintana, Steven M. Snyder, William Purnell, Carolina Aponte and Janis Sita, Comparison of a standard psychiatric evaluation to rating scales and EEG in the differential diagnosis of attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder, Psychiatry ResearchVolume 152, Issues 2-3, , 30 August 2007, Pages 211-222. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6TBV-4NJP3GS-2/2/2d080a6e883a2b4d82fe218f439ee0f5) Keywords: Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder; Children; Adolescents; Psychometrics; Electroencephalography; Diagnosis Andrea Berger, Ora Kofman, Uri Livneh and Avishai Henik, Multidisciplinary perspectives on attention and the development of self-regulation, Progress in NeurobiologyVolume 82, Issue 5, , August 2007, Pages 256-286. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6T0R-4P1G9S5-1/2/a9dff3b0e831720ab0dc92a2a4bf335b) Keywords: Self-regulation; Attention; Development; ADHD; Animal models Adam R. Clarke, Robert J. Barry, Rory McCarthy, Mark Selikowitz, Stuart J. Johnstone, Ching-I Hsu, Christopher A. Magee, Carlie A. Lawrence and Rodney J. Croft, Coherence in children with Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder and excess beta activity in their EEG, Clinical NeurophysiologyVolume 118, Issue 7, , July 2007, Pages 1472-1479. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6VNP-4NR6495-3/2/94023e84741f5a90798fdbfe98ed28d3) Keywords: Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder; Children; EEG; Coherence; beta activity Juliana Yordanova, Hartmut Heinrich, Vasil Kolev and Aribert Rothenberger, Increased event-related theta activity as a psychophysiological marker of comorbidity in children with tics and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorders, NeuroImageVolume 32, Issue 2, , 15 August 2006, Pages 940-955. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6WNP-4K1X5MK-3/2/c2dae49d7f4ce850b248fcb975a64554) Keywords: Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder; Tic disorder; Event-related theta oscillations; ERP; EEG; Memory and attention; Children Gleb V. Tcheslavski and A.A. (Louis) Beex, Phase synchrony and coherence analyses of EEG as tools to discriminate between children with and without attention deficit disorder, Biomedical Signal Processing and ControlVolume 1, Issue 2, , Voice Models and Analysis for Biomedical Applications, April 2006, Pages 151-161. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B7XMN-4M04NYF-1/2/20e3ccab0381c16ddcb277b7a7694cdb) Keywords: Electroencephalogram; ADHD; Coherence; Synchrony C.S. Herrmann and T. Demiralp, Human EEG gamma oscillations in neuropsychiatric disorders, Clinical NeurophysiologyVolume 116, Issue 12, , December 2005, Pages 2719-2733. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6VNP-4HDGBW7-1/2/ada3ccc1f32e5c9d4a7b28be1778cfa7) Keywords: ADHD; Alzheimer's Disease; Epilepsy; Gamma; Memory; Schizophrenia Vincent J. Monastra, Electroencephalographic biofeedback (neurotherapy) as a treatment for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder: rationale and empirical foundation, Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North AmericaVolume 14, Issue 1, , Emerging Interventions, January 2005, Pages 55-82. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B7RM0-4FK168C-6Y/2/cc0487681e13ec1f27e28e69946f231b) Jury D. Kropotov, Vera A. Grin-Yatsenko, Valery A. Ponomarev, Leonid S. Chutko, Elena A. Yakovenko and Inna S. Nikishena, ERPs correlates of EEG relative beta training in ADHD children, International Journal of PsychophysiologyVolume 55, Issue 1, , January 2005, Pages 23-34. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6T3M-4CY5KXH-1/2/dcf7192a86e602341587b0a5efe2ac8a) Keywords: Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder; Executive functions; Event-related potentials; GO/NOGO paradigm; EEG biofeedback (neurofeedback); Beta training; SMR training Shinji Okazaki, Hisaki Ozaki, Hisao Maekawa and Satoshi Futakami, Longitudinal change of ERP during cued continuous performance test in child with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder, International Congress SeriesVolume 1270, , Frontiers in Human Brain Topology. Proceedings of ISBET 2004, August 2004, Pages 254-257. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B7581-4D0WDPJ-24/2/5c25e1af77c6046ae517a7bdc1123383) Keywords: Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder; Motor control; Development; Psychostimulant Jeffery N. Swartwood, Michie O. Swartwood, Joel F. Lubar and DeAnna L. Timmermann, EEG differences in ADHD-combined type during baseline and cognitive tasks, Pediatric NeurologyVolume 28, Issue 3, , March 2003, Pages 199-204. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6TBD-48N35PR-1/2/3024cb91d4babb7874fc1bad7f01f9f1) Keywords: EEG; ADHD; diagnosis Susan M. Bresnahan and Robert J. Barry, Specificity of quantitative EEG analysis in adults with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, Psychiatry ResearchVolume 112, Issue 2, , 10 October 2002, Pages 133-144. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6TBV-47591R0-4/2/5bc9a3b1d2350a3ead9b1a213d22902e) Keywords: Quantitative electroencephalography (qEEG); Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD); Theta power; Specificity Adam R. Clarke, Robert J. Barry, Rory McCarthy, Mark Selikowitz and Christopher R. Brown, EEG evidence for a new conceptualisation of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, Clinical NeurophysiologyVolume 113, Issue 7, , July 2002, Pages 1036-1044. 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