Re: [Omail-admin-devel] Omail Admin vs Vpopmail (suggestions)

[Olivier M. <qm...@or...>]

Thx Marcel for your long post :)

On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 07:43:56PM +0100, Marcel Hauser wrote:
> But... yesterday.. i took a look at vpopmail + qmailadmin + vqadmin !
> Result: qmailadmin supports a nice administrive interface to ezmlm lists !!! 
> vpopmail installation took me less then a few compile minutes and... vqadmin 
> is a interface to setup NEW Domains... without even running command line 
> tools... like vsetup  (vmailmgr) !!

yes, and vpopmail is still in developpement, while vmailmgr is dead (no changes
or updates since 18 months :(  )

> And last but not least... i don't want to migrate to vpopmail just that i have 
> the ezmlm interface (to much work with converting those to cdb formats)

my personnal solution: I have the lists based on mailman... :)  (www.mail.org)
nice and practical user interface.

> 1. I know of a few web based ezmlm interfaces but they all use cgi's (which i 
> don't like) theres one coded in php... but it look ugly ! What are you guys 
> using (web interface) to administer ezmlm ?

ezmlm-web

> 2. @Olivier... would it be hard to add ezmlm support to omail admin ? ( you 
> see how much i like omail admin :) ) i can support you if you like... i have 

I'm affraid there is no way to do that: omail-admin is php-based, and can
only talk with the vmailmgr daemon: not possible to create the .qmail-* files 
or the directories in the domain manager directory.  So this would
require some work in vmailmgrd... 

> 3. As told a year ago :) i think... how about adding an option to omail 
> admin... to apply quota changes in the vmailmgrquota file.. to all (or 
> selected ones) accounts currenty set up for a domain ?

sounds possible...

> 4. How about a special "Overall Master Super User" which can change things in 
> domains... the normal domain owner can't change ? Lets say ... i set default 

changing things in the vmailmgrquota file would be easy, but changing 
domains or users is not possible without the domain password (required by the
vmailmgr daemon, which is quite logical...)

> 5. How about... writing some small piece of code (maybe integrated into qmail 
> admin) to setup new domains.. including default quoatas... and other stuff 
> which for now... one has to do manually be editing the vmailmgrquota file !!

same problem: php+apache can not touch files in /var/qmail or somewhere else...
I administer my domains with mysql tables and perl scripts on the server.

> puhh... that's a lot i'am suggesting not ?? But that is currently the way i 
> see the difference between vmailmgr and vpopmail (i know there are other 
> things beside that.... the single user for vpopmail for instance. but that is 
> not really important to me)

vpopmail and vmailmgr are 2 quite different concepts :) both intresting... also
currently thinking about leaving vmailmgr, but the more to qmail-ldap... 

regards,
Olivier

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