Re: [Obi-instrument-branch] core terms - meeting

[Melanie C. <mco...@gm...>]

Frank,


On 30-Jan-09, at 12:58 AM, Frank Gibson wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Melanie Courtot  
> <mco...@gm...> wrote:
>> FYI - as I did tell Frank this morning, I did commit the newids  
>> files under
>> our SVN yesterday, and the MSI terms have now been assigned an OBI  
>> ID, as
>> has been approved by the coordinators.
>>
>> The namespace discussion during workshop should allow us to  
>> officialize the
>> formalization of the policy that Susanna and Philippe are preparing.
>
> excellent
>
>> Other issues mentioned during dev call included how to proceed with  
>> the
>> function/process branches,
>
> This is an outstanding BFO issue, in the sense that do funtions exist,
> or are they actually just processes

We need to know how to move forward on those, in coordination with the  
process branch.

>
>
> formalizing difference between instrument/device
>> (in good way),
>
> This is closed. An instrument is a device that produces data
>
>
> and restriction on platform (is a platform always 2 or more
>> devices/instruments for example)
>
> this is how it is described in the definition, collection of more that
> one devices and software. However the has_part relation is transitive,
> meaning you can't add cardinality to it. So this item is also closed.

As it has been a recurring question, maybe we should consider adding  
it in our owl-full file.

>
>
> Lets try and not get hung-up about these classes which are purely used
> for classification and lets try and get back to ontology building -
> describing what we actually know about each instrument.

The above comments were meant to reflect things people were wondering  
about during the dev call, and that we should explicit clearly when  
presenting our core set during the workshop.

Melanie
>
>
> Frank
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Melanie
>>
>>
>> On 29-Jan-09, at 9:40 AM, Ryan Brinkman wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Frank!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Frank Gibson [mailto:fg...@gm...]
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:07 AM
>>> To: Melanie Courtot
>>> Cc: obi...@li...
>>> Subject: Re: [Obi-instrument-branch] core terms - meeting
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am not sure there are really any issues. We have a good definition
>>> for a device, we have decided that and instrument is any device that
>>> produces data, and a platform is a combination of multiple devices  
>>> and
>>> software. The key issues that are stopping us from progressing,  
>>> which
>>> are cross branch issues and are scheduled for discussion at the
>>> meeting are
>>>
>>> 1) the (MSI) namespace issue
>>> 2) The device_setting classes and relations
>>>
>>> I can do the presentation of the core representational units
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Melanie Courtot <mco...@gm... 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> We reviewed core terms yesterday during the dev call, in  
>>>> preparation
>>>> for the meeting. The instrument branch is behind, in the sense  
>>>> that we
>>>> didn't solve issues presented by those.
>>>> I don't know who will do the talk in Vancouver, but in the current
>>>> situation I don;t have much more to say than "we know we have  
>>>> issues
>>>> and will work on them" which doesn't match the objective of core  
>>>> terms
>>>> ready by the workshop.
>>>> Suggestions?
>>>> Melanie
>>>>
>>>>
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