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[NSIS-Bugs] [ nsis-Feature Requests-1122361 ] A new kind of installer for Windows users (apt-get for Windo
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2005-02-17 20:58:29
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Feature Requests item #1122361, was opened at 2005-02-14 13:04 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by scls19fr You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=373088&aid=1122361&group_id=22049 Category: General Group: 2.0 Series Status: Closed Priority: 5 Submitted By: scls19fr (scls19fr) Assigned to: Amir Szekely (kichik) Summary: A new kind of installer for Windows users (apt-get for Windo Initial Comment: Hello, First, I want to say that I'm a GNU/Linux Debian user so the feature I'm sending is very inspired from GNU/Linux operating system. Maybe you know the famous 'apt-get' command from Debian. Synaptic is a front-end for this command. Most of Linux distros use a simular command (yum for Fedora, urpmi for Mandrake...). Here is the following fearures : - easy install of a program - easy update of a program - easy to solve problem of dependencies between packages I think NSIS should make a similar tool for Windows... Why ? Because people aren't geek... [educational and philosophical reason] If they have an easy way (graphical user interface) for installing many open software they will be urge to use them... instead of proprietary softwares. Because people aren't geek... (2) [security reason] Let's imagine a major bug in a mojor open software (OpenOffice or Mozilla)... (as the jpg problem with MS apps) Do you really think that people will update their software... I don't think so... (or I think they will do it very lately... unfortunately too late...) ? Imagine the disaster if the security problem is on a shared library (shared by many opensource softwares) !!! What is the solution ? Major opensource developers (OOo, Mozilla, GIMP,...) should make such a program and should ONLY send binaries for Windows as a package... not as a standalone exe Who can help them ? Maybe first they should have a look at RPM specifications and DEB specifications (DEB is maybe a better way as it can pre-configure a package) Maybe you should also work with other opensource developers (Mozilla, OOo, Debian, Mandrake...) So we could have something similar to 'Fink' for MacOS X... and when someone is looking for an Office Suite he will run "Synaptic for Windows" (just an exemple of name) and look for Office... and found OpenOffice. I hope you understand my poor english and see how it can be important for OpenOffice.org and other opensource apps 1) For security reason 2) For philosophy reason (only open softwares !) 3) for educational purpose (so Windows users will understand more easily how software are installed on Linux) An other feature to add (and that will be very useful for Windows administrator), could be the opportunity to install packages on MANY computers. So for example it will be easy to install OpenOffice.org or Mozilla on all computers in a network. On each computer a daemon (service) should be started in order to keep packages up to date. So the first think to understand is the concept of "media"... that Windows users don't know... but that could be so usefull ! Regards ( please send me any comment about such an idea... because maybe I can help you... maybe not ;-) ) Sébastien Celles PS Some links http://www.apt-get.org/ http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/ http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages http://fink.sourceforge.net/ http://www.urpmi.org/ http://www.fedora.us/wiki/FedoraHOWTO http://gentoo-wiki.com/MAN_emerge http://www.general.uwa.edu.au/u/toivo/kpackage/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: scls19fr (scls19fr) Date: 2005-02-17 20:58 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=996465 I found this : http://sourceforge.net/projects/winrpm/ http://debian-cygwin.sourceforge.net Project should be based on Cygwin or MinGW http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/ http://www.cygwin.com/ OK I will post in the forum... Regards ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Amir Szekely (kichik) Date: 2005-02-17 20:50 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=584402 You could post such a suggestion in the forum. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: scls19fr (scls19fr) Date: 2005-02-17 20:46 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=996465 In fact I don't know exactly where I should post for suggesting such a project (because I'm not able to do it alone). I really think more developers should think about it because it will help other developers. So they will not have to add an update feature to their soft. Moreover the security reason is very important too... I think it can be a *feature* request for NSIS if you (NSIS developpers) want to give it a new way... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Amir Szekely (kichik) Date: 2005-02-17 20:05 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=584402 It's a nice idea, but it's not really a feature request for NSIS itself. It's a request for a whole other project. You might want to try and start a forum thread and see if you can get a group of developers to help you get your idea moving. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=373088&aid=1122361&group_id=22049 |