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From: PsiStormYamato <psi...@la...> - 2011-04-29 00:06:39
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Whoops. Title corrected. On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 19:54 -0400, PsiStormYamato wrote: > I just had to deal with this, so I figured I'd bring it to the attention > of others in case they run into it. > > I've been using motion to capture jpgs and then compiling them at the > end of the day into one big avi. I've been using mencoder to compile the > avi, but a power loss last night left several empty frames, which broke > the later attempt to compile the avi and resulted in only the video up > to the point of corruption being created. The solution was simple enough > though, deleting all jpgs that had zero bytes allowed mencoder to behave > normally and encode all frames. > > I might add a check to my script to first delete all jpgs with a size of > zero to prevent this in the future; although, there might be something > in mencoder that would filter it out. > > Here's what I've been using: > #!/bin/bash > time=`date +%F_%T_%Z` > cd ~/motion > for m in *m.jpg; do mv "$m" old/motion_frames/; done > for n in *.jpg; do mv "$n" old/; done > cd ~/motion/old > mencoder "mf://*.jpg" -fps 10 -ovc lavc -o video/$time.avi > vlc video/$time.avi > # eof > > Cleanup: > #!/bin/bash > cd ~/motion/old > for m in *.jpg; do rm -f "$m"; done > cd ~/motion/old/motion_frames > for n in *.jpg; do rm -f "$n"; done > # eof > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software > The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network > management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial > acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd > _______________________________________________ > Motion-user mailing list > Mot...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome |
From: PsiStormYamato <psi...@la...> - 2011-04-28 23:55:06
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I just had to deal with this, so I figured I'd bring it to the attention of others in case they run into it. I've been using motion to capture jpgs and then compiling them at the end of the day into one big avi. I've been using mencoder to compile the avi, but a power loss last night left several empty frames, which broke the later attempt to compile the avi and resulted in only the video up to the point of corruption being created. The solution was simple enough though, deleting all jpgs that had zero bytes allowed mencoder to behave normally and encode all frames. I might add a check to my script to first delete all jpgs with a size of zero to prevent this in the future; although, there might be something in mencoder that would filter it out. Here's what I've been using: #!/bin/bash time=`date +%F_%T_%Z` cd ~/motion for m in *m.jpg; do mv "$m" old/motion_frames/; done for n in *.jpg; do mv "$n" old/; done cd ~/motion/old mencoder "mf://*.jpg" -fps 10 -ovc lavc -o video/$time.avi vlc video/$time.avi # eof Cleanup: #!/bin/bash cd ~/motion/old for m in *.jpg; do rm -f "$m"; done cd ~/motion/old/motion_frames for n in *.jpg; do rm -f "$n"; done # eof |
From: Bob B. <bob...@bi...> - 2011-04-25 22:42:10
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Hi Andrew Err no, I just use lsusb, pspci and syslog. I also seem to have only old hardware with one EHCI controller! Bob On 04/26/2011 03:09 AM, Andrew Burgess wrote: > do you know about the usbview program? > handy to get your cameras onto their own EHCI controllers. > my new computer and my old one both had two EHCI controllers > (and many OHCI aka usb1.1 controllers) so > were limited to two web cameras simultaneously. > i did find a pcie card with 4 independent EHCI controllers > good news is it was $20, bad is i havent got it working fully yet :) > sorry i am unfamiliar with quirks. > > |
From: Bob B. <bob...@bi...> - 2011-04-25 22:40:40
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Well it was stated that a text file with that info is now included in the kernel tree (ie in the Documentation subdir), but I saw elsewhere it wasnt. I grep'd it from the driver source a while ago, but I note the kernel source I now have no longer lists 128. I would suspect they "fixed" the bandwidth problem permanently. This is all of course clouded by my use of the oldish kernel! I now have a larger problem with the computer now hanging! I may even look at downgrading the kernel now.. I have just disabled the MB USB ports and changed both cameras to MJPEG palette running on the PCI USB card. It is working okay for the moment. I just want it going for a trip away (ie for house security) so I'll leave the scientific fiddling for when I get back! The uvc project is more or less here; http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/ I wondered about that pasted/zagged chunks thing. Yes I have seen that here too. I have also removed the IR filter from these cameras and change the colour/contrast/bright etc through v4lctl to get better night images. I think though that the "focus" is badly affected by the sensitivity up into IR now. The shorter lambda light and all that. My driver interest is actually around only making the red sensors active for that reason. Am also playing with IR LEDs. What is your actual USB/hardware setup and what palettes are you using? Bob On 04/25/2011 09:05 PM, GSO wrote: > Are quirks documented anywhere? > > The only linux I've been able to get all my webcams (3xLogitech and a > Trust) working on has been RedHat - otherwise the Trust is often not > supported, or interference between cameras: chunks of the image cut > and paste themselves around the image (sometimes blocks, other times > jagged chunks) and possibly from one camera to another. > > > G. > > " |
From: GSO <gs...@ya...> - 2011-04-25 17:55:20
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The current SL6 (aka RHEL6) is running 2.6.32 and all is well. The slackware I've just departed from I think was running 2.6.33, which had similar problems to Ubuntu (2.6.35 I think) - the Trust was not supported (no image at all, although a /dev/video device seemed to be present), and breakup of the images (jagged chunks cutting and pasting between two of the cameras that are the same model). The moral of the story I think is to buy hardware that supports Linux essentially. I only have the one EHCI controller by the looks, a laptop. On 25 April 2011 18:18, Andrew Burgess <aa...@ci...> wrote: > On 04/25/2011 04:05:17 AM, GSO wrote: > > > The only linux I've been able to get all my webcams (3xLogitech and a > > Trust) working on has been RedHat - otherwise the Trust is often not > > supported, or interference between cameras: chunks of the image cut > > and > > paste themselves around the image (sometimes blocks, other times > > jagged > > chunks) and possibly from one camera to another. > > which kernel are you running? > > i found the latest fedora 14 kernel 2.6.35.11 couldn't handle my new > usb card > but 2.6.38 and 2.6.39-rc4 were fine with it. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software > The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network > management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial > acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd > _______________________________________________ > Motion-user mailing list > Mot...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome > |
From: Andrew B. <aa...@ci...> - 2011-04-25 17:26:28
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On 04/25/2011 04:05:17 AM, GSO wrote: > The only linux I've been able to get all my webcams (3xLogitech and a > Trust) working on has been RedHat - otherwise the Trust is often not > supported, or interference between cameras: chunks of the image cut > and > paste themselves around the image (sometimes blocks, other times > jagged > chunks) and possibly from one camera to another. which kernel are you running? i found the latest fedora 14 kernel 2.6.35.11 couldn't handle my new usb card but 2.6.38 and 2.6.39-rc4 were fine with it. |
From: Andrew B. <aa...@ci...> - 2011-04-25 17:09:31
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do you know about the usbview program? handy to get your cameras onto their own EHCI controllers. my new computer and my old one both had two EHCI controllers (and many OHCI aka usb1.1 controllers) so were limited to two web cameras simultaneously. i did find a pcie card with 4 independent EHCI controllers good news is it was $20, bad is i havent got it working fully yet :) sorry i am unfamiliar with quirks. On 04/24/2011 09:16:04 PM, Bob Bob wrote: > Hi All > > It would seem that the Logitech (C500 etc) two camera issue is to do > with excess bandwidth device allocation of the USB bus. ie its not a > motion problem as such. I'd just like to mention what I have been > doing > and would welcome any feedback from those who have been similarly > frustrated. > > In my experiments a week plus ago I had two cameras working on two USB > buses (ie an extra PCI USB2 card in addition to the MB one) I had the > uvcvideo quirks=128 enabled and was happily running YUYV 1280x1024. > Was > working well.. There is no way I could run it on one USB bus. > > Until I updated the kernel.. to 2.6.31.14 (SuSE 11.2). Yes that kernel > is a little old.. (Sorry I cant remember the prior version.) > > One of the cameras (on the MB port) would now continually > disconnect/reconnect and shift to USB1.1 mode, regardless of motion > running. I'd actually suspect hardware and am looking for another USB2 > PCI card. I did however need to get it going so I removed the quirks > and > switched both cameras to MJPEG palette. Still had problems with > disconnect/connects and most of my hair fell out! > > You wont believe it but changing the PCI USB card to YUYV and leaving > the one on the MB port at 800x600 USB1.1 works without fault! Yes real > weird! I wonder if two camera MJPEG mode has some kind of issue.? > > (quirks = 128 makes the MJPEG palette non working) > > I am sure I'll eventually crack this. The next step is some more USB2 > PCI cards. I also need to look more into running two cameras in MJPEG > mode on the once bus. Don't know how to do that just yet. I wonder if > something with the same USB device ID gets things into trouble. I > think > a latest kernel will be a step in there somewhere. > > And here is a question. I am also running a PAL-DK camera into a BT878 > card. v4l-info says that the max image size is 924X576, which is not > 4:3. Its kind of a half widescreen thing. (924 becoming 912 with > modulo > 16) Is changing the 912 to 768 the right way to do this? I mean it > fixes > the aspect ratio but I worry about any loss of information?? > > > > Cheers Bob (Australia) > > ------quoted attachment------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Fulfilling the Lean Software Promise > Lean software platforms are now widely adopted and the benefits have > been > demonstrated beyond question. Learn why your peers are replacing JEE > containers with lightweight application servers - and what you can > gain > from the move. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfemails ------quoted attachment------ > _______________________________________________ > Motion-user mailing list > Mot...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome > |
From: GSO <gs...@ya...> - 2011-04-25 11:05:24
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Are quirks documented anywhere? The only linux I've been able to get all my webcams (3xLogitech and a Trust) working on has been RedHat - otherwise the Trust is often not supported, or interference between cameras: chunks of the image cut and paste themselves around the image (sometimes blocks, other times jagged chunks) and possibly from one camera to another. G. "Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life..." Aristotle, http://bit.ly/hZG5BF On 25 April 2011 05:16, Bob Bob <bob...@bi...> wrote: > Hi All > > It would seem that the Logitech (C500 etc) two camera issue is to do with > excess bandwidth device allocation of the USB bus. ie its not a motion > problem as such. I'd just like to mention what I have been doing and would > welcome any feedback from those who have been similarly frustrated. > > In my experiments a week plus ago I had two cameras working on two USB > buses (ie an extra PCI USB2 card in addition to the MB one) I had the > uvcvideo quirks=128 enabled and was happily running YUYV 1280x1024. Was > working well.. There is no way I could run it on one USB bus. > > Until I updated the kernel.. to 2.6.31.14 (SuSE 11.2). Yes that kernel is a > little old.. (Sorry I cant remember the prior version.) > > One of the cameras (on the MB port) would now continually > disconnect/reconnect and shift to USB1.1 mode, regardless of motion running. > I'd actually suspect hardware and am looking for another USB2 PCI card. I > did however need to get it going so I removed the quirks and switched both > cameras to MJPEG palette. Still had problems with disconnect/connects and > most of my hair fell out! > > You wont believe it but changing the PCI USB card to YUYV and leaving the > one on the MB port at 800x600 USB1.1 works without fault! Yes real weird! I > wonder if two camera MJPEG mode has some kind of issue.? > > (quirks = 128 makes the MJPEG palette non working) > > I am sure I'll eventually crack this. The next step is some more USB2 PCI > cards. I also need to look more into running two cameras in MJPEG mode on > the once bus. Don't know how to do that just yet. I wonder if something with > the same USB device ID gets things into trouble. I think a latest kernel > will be a step in there somewhere. > > And here is a question. I am also running a PAL-DK camera into a BT878 > card. v4l-info says that the max image size is 924X576, which is not 4:3. > Its kind of a half widescreen thing. (924 becoming 912 with modulo 16) Is > changing the 912 to 768 the right way to do this? I mean it fixes the aspect > ratio but I worry about any loss of information?? > > > > Cheers Bob (Australia) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Fulfilling the Lean Software Promise > Lean software platforms are now widely adopted and the benefits have been > demonstrated beyond question. Learn why your peers are replacing JEE > containers with lightweight application servers - and what you can gain > from the move. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfemails > _______________________________________________ > Motion-user mailing list > Mot...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome > > |
From: Bob B. <bob...@bi...> - 2011-04-25 04:16:14
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Hi All It would seem that the Logitech (C500 etc) two camera issue is to do with excess bandwidth device allocation of the USB bus. ie its not a motion problem as such. I'd just like to mention what I have been doing and would welcome any feedback from those who have been similarly frustrated. In my experiments a week plus ago I had two cameras working on two USB buses (ie an extra PCI USB2 card in addition to the MB one) I had the uvcvideo quirks=128 enabled and was happily running YUYV 1280x1024. Was working well.. There is no way I could run it on one USB bus. Until I updated the kernel.. to 2.6.31.14 (SuSE 11.2). Yes that kernel is a little old.. (Sorry I cant remember the prior version.) One of the cameras (on the MB port) would now continually disconnect/reconnect and shift to USB1.1 mode, regardless of motion running. I'd actually suspect hardware and am looking for another USB2 PCI card. I did however need to get it going so I removed the quirks and switched both cameras to MJPEG palette. Still had problems with disconnect/connects and most of my hair fell out! You wont believe it but changing the PCI USB card to YUYV and leaving the one on the MB port at 800x600 USB1.1 works without fault! Yes real weird! I wonder if two camera MJPEG mode has some kind of issue.? (quirks = 128 makes the MJPEG palette non working) I am sure I'll eventually crack this. The next step is some more USB2 PCI cards. I also need to look more into running two cameras in MJPEG mode on the once bus. Don't know how to do that just yet. I wonder if something with the same USB device ID gets things into trouble. I think a latest kernel will be a step in there somewhere. And here is a question. I am also running a PAL-DK camera into a BT878 card. v4l-info says that the max image size is 924X576, which is not 4:3. Its kind of a half widescreen thing. (924 becoming 912 with modulo 16) Is changing the 912 to 768 the right way to do this? I mean it fixes the aspect ratio but I worry about any loss of information?? Cheers Bob (Australia) |
From: Joe C. <joe...@gm...> - 2011-04-23 19:42:56
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The card arrived faster than I expected. Plugged it in and it worked with zero hassle (Ubuntu 10.10 x64). dmesg has a whinge about the vendor saving some cents on not putting an eeprom on it so it can't autodetect the card but it doesn't seem to affect it working. I can see a good picture on all four of my cams via motion. Result :) Joe On 19 April 2011 21:12, Joe Carter <joe...@gm...> wrote: > Moses, > > I'll be sure to post how I get on - good or bad. > HK orders typically take a couple of weeks to arrive. > It's this card: > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260768065299 > Specification > * Philips SAA7130HL Video decode Chipset > * 4CH Video Input (NTSC/PAL) > * Display 120ps (NTSC), 100fps(PAL) > * Recording: 120fps (NTSC), 100fps(PAL) > * Display: 352×288 > * Resolution: 640×480(NTSC) 704×576(PAL) > * Compression S/W: MPEG-4/H.264 > > Cheers > Joe > > On 19 April 2011 15:47, Moses <mo...@ne...> wrote: >> Joe, >> >> Please tell us how it works out. For reference I've been using what is >> known as a Kodicom 8800 clone (aka K8800 or KMC-8800 or ??) its an 8 >> chip BT878 card, 8 chips allow 240 fps if your machine can handle it. >> I've always had problems using more then 4 inputs.. long story, just >> makes the machine very unstable. >> >> Please email the list details when you do get the card. I'd be >> interested in trying something else as well, especially if its a 4 or 8 >> input/chip model. >> >> Regards, >> -Moses >> >> > |
From: jtd <jt...@mt...> - 2011-04-22 08:14:23
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On Thursday 21 April 2011 02:56:20 Moses wrote: > Jtd, > > A reliable setup with more then 4 BT878s! Can I bother you for > printout of your /proc/interrupts ? Mine is below. Almost > everything is off on the board btw, including USB. Could never get > the bt878s on their own interrupts. I dont have access to the 120 fps card machines. This is for machine with 5 bttv cards, one camera per card. CPU0 0: 69028798 IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 2 IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 9: 0 IO-APIC-level acpi 14: 4760282 IO-APIC-edge ide0 16: 0 IO-APIC-level usb-uhci, usb-uhci 17: 34483471 IO-APIC-level bttv, bttv 18: 17248467 IO-APIC-level usb-uhci, bttv 19: 17248943 IO-APIC-level usb-uhci, bttv 21: 355952708 IO-APIC-level eth0 22: 17246722 IO-APIC-level bttv NMI: 0 LOC: 69029310 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz stepping : 9 cpu MHz : 2793.256 cache size : 512 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid bogomips : 5570.56 Mobo is an intel i865 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82820 820 (Camino 2) Chipset PCI (rev c2) kernel 2.4.24 motion-3.1.16 320x240 25 fps. 4 machines were installed in 2003. Running just fine till date. The pci bus chokes at 25MBps. 320x240x24x25x4/8=23.0MB/s tah is the limit per pci slot. Then you need processor horsepower to compress that and dump it to disk. You absolutely need a server grade mobo with very good I/O. IMO any board with 4 or more PCI slots should fit the bill. Maybe your ram is heating up too much or the ram itself is not good enough. -- Rgds JTD |
From: Moses <mo...@ne...> - 2011-04-20 21:26:42
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Jtd, A reliable setup with more then 4 BT878s! Can I bother you for printout of your /proc/interrupts ? Mine is below. Almost everything is off on the board btw, including USB. Could never get the bt878s on their own interrupts. Regards, -Moses CPU0 CPU1 CPU2 CPU3 0: 72988467 0 0 0 IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 2 0 0 0 IO-APIC-edge i8042 8: 1 0 0 0 IO-APIC-edge rtc 9: 1 0 0 0 IO-APIC-level acpi 12: 4 0 0 0 IO-APIC-edge i8042 50: 4744273 0 6836958 0 IO-APIC-level bttv2, bttv6 58: 15417 0 7249931 0 IO-APIC-level bttv3, bttv7 74: 58 0 0 14281 PCI-MSI eth0 185: 8765 0 3884883 4995 IO-APIC-level ata_piix 225: 3857826 0 7723272 0 IO-APIC-level bttv0, bttv4 233: 3021715 0 8559423 0 IO-APIC-level bttv1, bttv5 NMI: 0 0 0 0 LOC: 72977956 72977950 72977955 72977948 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 On 4/20/2011 10:46 AM, jtd wrote: > On Wednesday 20 April 2011 10:40:26 Moses wrote: > >> Is there anyone out there running more then 4 chips on a single >> machine, bt878 or otherwise? If so, I would greatly appreciate >> hearing from you. > 5 single channel bttv cards per intel mobo > 2 4 channel (4bt878) per mobo > > Uptime in years except for the rare disk / PSU failure > >> Using motion with linux makes for a great security DVR, I can >> script pretty much whatever needs to be done, email and pager >> alerts, timelapse movies, turn on lights during motion.. its pretty >> much limitless. Just have to figure out how to get more then 4 >> inputs to work reliably! >> >> Regards, >> -Moses >> >> On 4/19/2011 9:19 PM, Andrew Burgess wrote: >>> On 04/19/2011 07:50:27 PM, Moses wrote: >>>> No "bt878: AUDIO driver version" in my dmesg output. I don't >>>> believe there is anything audio related on this card. Below is >>>> the output of the >>>> first two chips for reference. >>> so maybe bttv.ko is handling the card directly? >>> >>> sorry it wasn't the array size. >>> >>> did you try any of the many arguments to the bttv module? >>> >>> interesting observation about the shared interrupts. >>> is there some bios tweaking that would help? >>> i seem to recall something about interrupts the last time i >>> lookeed at a bios... >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----------- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial >> Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server >> virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, >> simplify management, and improve application availability and >> disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server >> virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Motion-user mailing list >> Mot...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user >> http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome > |
From: jtd <jt...@mt...> - 2011-04-20 18:23:48
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On Wednesday 20 April 2011 10:40:26 Moses wrote: > Is there anyone out there running more then 4 chips on a single > machine, bt878 or otherwise? If so, I would greatly appreciate > hearing from you. 5 single channel bttv cards per intel mobo 2 4 channel (4bt878) per mobo Uptime in years except for the rare disk / PSU failure > Using motion with linux makes for a great security DVR, I can > script pretty much whatever needs to be done, email and pager > alerts, timelapse movies, turn on lights during motion.. its pretty > much limitless. Just have to figure out how to get more then 4 > inputs to work reliably! > > Regards, > -Moses > > On 4/19/2011 9:19 PM, Andrew Burgess wrote: > > On 04/19/2011 07:50:27 PM, Moses wrote: > >> No "bt878: AUDIO driver version" in my dmesg output. I don't > >> believe there is anything audio related on this card. Below is > >> the output of the > >> first two chips for reference. > > > > so maybe bttv.ko is handling the card directly? > > > > sorry it wasn't the array size. > > > > did you try any of the many arguments to the bttv module? > > > > interesting observation about the shared interrupts. > > is there some bios tweaking that would help? > > i seem to recall something about interrupts the last time i > > lookeed at a bios... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >----------- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial > Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server > virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, > simplify management, and improve application availability and > disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server > virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Motion-user mailing list > Mot...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome -- Rgds JTD |
From: Andrew B. <aa...@ci...> - 2011-04-20 15:32:35
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On 04/20/2011 08:28:03 AM, com...@my... wrote: > Have you tried to disable the onboard usb controller in the BIOS? haven't. i've got a few newer kernels built so when i take it down for testing i might try that. thanks |
From: <com...@my...> - 2011-04-20 15:28:10
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Have you tried to disable the onboard usb controller in the BIOS? John... -----Original Message----- >From: Andrew Burgess <aa...@ci...> >Sent: Apr 20, 2011 11:13 AM >To: Motion discussion list <mot...@li...> >Subject: Re: [Motion-user] BT878_MAX 4 > >On 04/19/2011 10:10:26 PM, Moses wrote: >> Yes, it appears bttv.ko is the one controlling it all. I've tried all >> sorts of bttv arguments, the interrupt fixes, triton, via, etc... here >> is my current one, disabling v4l2 seems to give a bit more time >> between >> crashes. > >are the crashes too random for debugging? >i know with a second computer you can run gdb on a running kernel. > >> I've tried modifying the latency timers in the bios as well > >i think my bios had something additional, interrupt routing or >something. >its PCIe though... > >> Using motion with linux makes for a great security DVR, I can script >> pretty much whatever needs to be done, email and pager alerts, >> timelapse >> movies, turn on lights during motion.. its pretty much limitless. Just >> have to figure out how to get more then 4 inputs to work reliably! > >i've been using some usb cameras (720p for $80). normally you can only >fit one >per ehci controller (so 2 in my machine) but i found a $20 usb >expansion card >with 4 independent ehci controllers on it. > >and of course the machine won't boot with it plugged in :-) > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload >Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top >priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve >application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting >the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev >_______________________________________________ >Motion-user mailing list >Mot...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user >http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome |
From: Andrew B. <aa...@ci...> - 2011-04-20 15:13:44
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On 04/19/2011 10:10:26 PM, Moses wrote: > Yes, it appears bttv.ko is the one controlling it all. I've tried all > sorts of bttv arguments, the interrupt fixes, triton, via, etc... here > is my current one, disabling v4l2 seems to give a bit more time > between > crashes. are the crashes too random for debugging? i know with a second computer you can run gdb on a running kernel. > I've tried modifying the latency timers in the bios as well i think my bios had something additional, interrupt routing or something. its PCIe though... > Using motion with linux makes for a great security DVR, I can script > pretty much whatever needs to be done, email and pager alerts, > timelapse > movies, turn on lights during motion.. its pretty much limitless. Just > have to figure out how to get more then 4 inputs to work reliably! i've been using some usb cameras (720p for $80). normally you can only fit one per ehci controller (so 2 in my machine) but i found a $20 usb expansion card with 4 independent ehci controllers on it. and of course the machine won't boot with it plugged in :-) |
From: hidayatullah . <da...@gm...> - 2011-04-20 08:13:08
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i want to stream video audio with motion. Can motion stream audio too ? how to config for audio stream. please, anyone can explain it regards, hida |
From: Joerg W. <mo...@al...> - 2011-04-20 05:35:14
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Hello Moses, I'm running one of these no-name 8-chip BT878 cards and my machine also crashes from time to time, but very rarely actually. I believe that the crashes are related to the huge amount of traffic that the 8 chips are generating on the PCI bus. I'm therefore still looking for an 8-chip version with PCIe interface, that is well supported by the BTTV driver... Brgds Joerg. -- Moses wrote: Yes, it appears bttv.ko is the one controlling it all. I've tried all sorts of bttv arguments, the interrupt fixes, triton, via, etc... here is my current one, disabling v4l2 seems to give a bit more time between crashes. options bttv gbuffers=32 radio=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 tuner=4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4 card=102,102,102,102,102,102,102,102 chroma_agc=1 combfilter=2 full_luma_range=1 coring=1 autoload=0 v4l2=0 I've tried modifying the latency timers in the bios as well, nothing really seems to help. I used to have an option in modprobe.conf "options i2c-algo-bit bit_test=1", but I've disabled it to see if it helps any, it just pauses a few minutes at boot without that option. I don't know too much about how all the internals work.. it's change/wait/see type fixes for now. Is there anyone out there running more then 4 chips on a single machine, bt878 or otherwise? If so, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. Using motion with linux makes for a great security DVR, I can script pretty much whatever needs to be done, email and pager alerts, timelapse movies, turn on lights during motion.. its pretty much limitless. Just have to figure out how to get more then 4 inputs to work reliably! Regards, -Moses On 4/19/2011 9:19 PM, Andrew Burgess wrote: > On 04/19/2011 07:50:27 PM, Moses wrote: > >> No "bt878: AUDIO driver version" in my dmesg output. I don't believe >> there is anything audio related on this card. Below is the output of >> the >> first two chips for reference. > so maybe bttv.ko is handling the card directly? > > sorry it wasn't the array size. > > did you try any of the many arguments to the bttv module? > > interesting observation about the shared interrupts. > is there some bios tweaking that would help? > i seem to recall something about interrupts the last time i > lookeed at a bios... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev _______________________________________________ Motion-user mailing list Mot...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome |
From: Moses <mo...@ne...> - 2011-04-20 05:10:46
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Yes, it appears bttv.ko is the one controlling it all. I've tried all sorts of bttv arguments, the interrupt fixes, triton, via, etc... here is my current one, disabling v4l2 seems to give a bit more time between crashes. options bttv gbuffers=32 radio=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 tuner=4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4 card=102,102,102,102,102,102,102,102 chroma_agc=1 combfilter=2 full_luma_range=1 coring=1 autoload=0 v4l2=0 I've tried modifying the latency timers in the bios as well, nothing really seems to help. I used to have an option in modprobe.conf "options i2c-algo-bit bit_test=1", but I've disabled it to see if it helps any, it just pauses a few minutes at boot without that option. I don't know too much about how all the internals work.. it's change/wait/see type fixes for now. Is there anyone out there running more then 4 chips on a single machine, bt878 or otherwise? If so, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. Using motion with linux makes for a great security DVR, I can script pretty much whatever needs to be done, email and pager alerts, timelapse movies, turn on lights during motion.. its pretty much limitless. Just have to figure out how to get more then 4 inputs to work reliably! Regards, -Moses On 4/19/2011 9:19 PM, Andrew Burgess wrote: > On 04/19/2011 07:50:27 PM, Moses wrote: > >> No "bt878: AUDIO driver version" in my dmesg output. I don't believe >> there is anything audio related on this card. Below is the output of >> the >> first two chips for reference. > so maybe bttv.ko is handling the card directly? > > sorry it wasn't the array size. > > did you try any of the many arguments to the bttv module? > > interesting observation about the shared interrupts. > is there some bios tweaking that would help? > i seem to recall something about interrupts the last time i > lookeed at a bios... > > |
From: Andrew B. <aa...@ci...> - 2011-04-20 04:19:45
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On 04/19/2011 07:50:27 PM, Moses wrote: > No "bt878: AUDIO driver version" in my dmesg output. I don't believe > there is anything audio related on this card. Below is the output of > the > first two chips for reference. so maybe bttv.ko is handling the card directly? sorry it wasn't the array size. did you try any of the many arguments to the bttv module? interesting observation about the shared interrupts. is there some bios tweaking that would help? i seem to recall something about interrupts the last time i lookeed at a bios... |
From: Moses <mo...@ne...> - 2011-04-20 02:50:48
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I know very little about this stuff myself. I don't think its a heat issue.. the bt878 chips used to get really hot, but I added copper heatsinks to each chip and there is a fan blowing on them, they stay pretty much at ambient now. I ordered a whole other card to try out as well. And I've tried a mess of pc hardware too, from P4s to quad cores. Here is what I tried so far.. I think I'm missing something.. changed #define BT878_MAX 4 to... #define BT878_MAX 8 in the following file ..../linux-2.6.18.i686/drivers/media/dvb/bt8xx/bt878.h $ make M=drivers/media/video/bt8xx and I get a new bttv.ko module to load. I move the old one over and run a "depmod -a" Reboot just to be sure, and I also added a comment in the loading to verify that I'm running the one I modified and it is. Problem is, I don't think I'm doing this right, as the bttv.ko file I get as a result will not change checksums when I make the change in bt878.h.... I don't see a bt878 module running, just bttv. I know I'm compiling something else /drivers/media/video/bt8xx/, but trying to compile /drivers/media/dvb/bt8xxx/ doesn't give me anything. No "bt878: AUDIO driver version" in my dmesg output. I don't believe there is anything audio related on this card. Below is the output of the first two chips for reference. Here is a similar card if anyone is interested. Works dandy fine when 4 ports are in use (the ones on different irqs) but as soon as two share one, it crashes. I got it from China, about $30-40 delivered if I remember correctly. I may try another 8 port card on a recommendation. Was also thinking of those analog to IP conversion boxes, grandstream (maker of mainly voip phones) makes such a box and outputs mjpeg and h264, but I like the analog overlay 'live' video output I get from the BT878 and I'm not too keen on spending $200 on a box just to 'try it out'. Regards, -Moses bttv: driver version 0.9.16 loaded bttv: using 32 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture bttv: Bt8xx card found (0). ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:05:08.0[A] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 225 bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 0000:05:08.0, irq: 225, latency: 32, mmio: 0x5010f000 bttv0: using: IVC-200 [card=102,insmod option] bttv0: gpio: en=00000000, out=00000000 in=00ffffff [init] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.3[B] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 185 bttv0: using tuner=4 bttv0: registered device video0 bttv0: registered device vbi0 bttv0: PLL: 28636363 => 35468950 .. ok bttv: Bt8xx card found (1). ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:05:09.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 233 bttv1: Bt878 (rev 17) at 0000:05:09.0, irq: 233, latency: 32, mmio: 0x5010d000 bttv1: using: IVC-200 [card=102,insmod option] bttv1: gpio: en=00000000, out=00000000 in=00ffffff [init] bttv1: using tuner=4 bttv1: registered device video1 bttv1: registered device vbi1 bttv1: PLL: 28636363 => 35468950 .. ok On 4/19/2011 6:40 PM, Andrew Burgess wrote: > On 04/19/2011 05:33:56 PM, Moses wrote: > >> Thanks for the quick reply.. nope looks like its not fixed. I've got >> centos 5.5 (and just did a mass yum update) and downloaded >> kernel-2.6.18-238.9.1.el5.src.rpm, BT878_MAX is still 4. >> >> I don't see the error that defined in bt878.c come up when I load the >> bttv driver... >> >> if (bt878_num>= BT878_MAX) { >> printk(KERN_ERR "bt878: Too many devices >> inserted\n"); >> result = -ENOMEM; >> goto fail0; >> } >> >> The "too many devices.." error. Wonder if this is per phyiscal card >> maybe? Although it does seem to find each chip as a 'card'. I'll give >> it >> a shot, I have to learn how to re-compile these modules now on centos. >> >> May I ask what problems you were having that this fixed? I hope this >> is >> really the issue I'm having, been looking for a fix for some time now. > as i recall it oopsed pretty quickly when using higher numbered chips. > > separate cards. huh. you might change bt878_probe while you're at it to > print > bt878_num each init. maybe it's threaded internally somehow. > getting a little beyond my paltry kernel knowledge... > > is it a heat issue? i used a dedicated fan for my card. it got fierce > hot. > > hmm. do you see eight of the "bt878: AUDIO driver version..." messages? > if that's called 8 times, it resets bt878_num each time! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload > Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top > priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve > application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting > the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Motion-user mailing list > Mot...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome > |
From: Andrew B. <aa...@ci...> - 2011-04-20 01:45:33
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On 04/19/2011 05:33:56 PM, Moses wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply.. nope looks like its not fixed. I've got > centos 5.5 (and just did a mass yum update) and downloaded > kernel-2.6.18-238.9.1.el5.src.rpm, BT878_MAX is still 4. > > I don't see the error that defined in bt878.c come up when I load the > bttv driver... > > if (bt878_num >= BT878_MAX) { > printk(KERN_ERR "bt878: Too many devices > inserted\n"); > result = -ENOMEM; > goto fail0; > } > > The "too many devices.." error. Wonder if this is per phyiscal card > maybe? Although it does seem to find each chip as a 'card'. I'll give > it > a shot, I have to learn how to re-compile these modules now on centos. > > May I ask what problems you were having that this fixed? I hope this > is > really the issue I'm having, been looking for a fix for some time now. as i recall it oopsed pretty quickly when using higher numbered chips. separate cards. huh. you might change bt878_probe while you're at it to print bt878_num each init. maybe it's threaded internally somehow. getting a little beyond my paltry kernel knowledge... is it a heat issue? i used a dedicated fan for my card. it got fierce hot. hmm. do you see eight of the "bt878: AUDIO driver version..." messages? if that's called 8 times, it resets bt878_num each time! |
From: Moses <mo...@ne...> - 2011-04-20 00:34:16
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Andrew, Thanks for the quick reply.. nope looks like its not fixed. I've got centos 5.5 (and just did a mass yum update) and downloaded kernel-2.6.18-238.9.1.el5.src.rpm, BT878_MAX is still 4. I don't see the error that defined in bt878.c come up when I load the bttv driver... if (bt878_num >= BT878_MAX) { printk(KERN_ERR "bt878: Too many devices inserted\n"); result = -ENOMEM; goto fail0; } The "too many devices.." error. Wonder if this is per phyiscal card maybe? Although it does seem to find each chip as a 'card'. I'll give it a shot, I have to learn how to re-compile these modules now on centos. May I ask what problems you were having that this fixed? I hope this is really the issue I'm having, been looking for a fix for some time now. Regards, -Moses On 4/19/2011 2:07 PM, Andrew Burgess wrote: > On 04/19/2011 12:31:30 PM, Moses wrote: > >> Wow.. I didn't know. Can you provide more details? I've been >> struggling >> for years now with this problem, I've posted the problem to the V4L >> list >> without luck, tried half a dozen linux distros, different hardware, >> whole new machines, bttv options, no luck. >> >> Any further information you can provide would be much appreciated. > it may have been fixed by now. depends on how rare the 8 chip cards are. > as i recall its obvious if you find the driver source, just change the > 4's to 8's :-) > > here i'll take a look... > > yep, there's this line: > > bt878.h:#define BT878_MAX 4 > > and there is still a static array defined to this size in bt878.c. > there is a check in the init routine for the chip count exceeding this. > i presume you don't see the error message. > prob worth a try to make it 8 and recompile > > the full path is drivers/media/dvb/bt8xx/bt878.h > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload > Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top > priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve > application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting > the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Motion-user mailing list > Mot...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome > |
From: Andrew B. <aa...@ci...> - 2011-04-19 21:07:23
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On 04/19/2011 12:31:30 PM, Moses wrote: > Wow.. I didn't know. Can you provide more details? I've been > struggling > for years now with this problem, I've posted the problem to the V4L > list > without luck, tried half a dozen linux distros, different hardware, > whole new machines, bttv options, no luck. > > Any further information you can provide would be much appreciated. it may have been fixed by now. depends on how rare the 8 chip cards are. as i recall its obvious if you find the driver source, just change the 4's to 8's :-) here i'll take a look... yep, there's this line: bt878.h:#define BT878_MAX 4 and there is still a static array defined to this size in bt878.c. there is a check in the init routine for the chip count exceeding this. i presume you don't see the error message. prob worth a try to make it 8 and recompile the full path is drivers/media/dvb/bt8xx/bt878.h |
From: Joe C. <joe...@gm...> - 2011-04-19 20:13:05
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Moses, I'll be sure to post how I get on - good or bad. HK orders typically take a couple of weeks to arrive. It's this card: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260768065299 Specification * Philips SAA7130HL Video decode Chipset * 4CH Video Input (NTSC/PAL) * Display 120ps (NTSC), 100fps(PAL) * Recording: 120fps (NTSC), 100fps(PAL) * Display: 352×288 * Resolution: 640×480(NTSC) 704×576(PAL) * Compression S/W: MPEG-4/H.264 Cheers Joe On 19 April 2011 15:47, Moses <mo...@ne...> wrote: > Joe, > > Please tell us how it works out. For reference I've been using what is > known as a Kodicom 8800 clone (aka K8800 or KMC-8800 or ??) its an 8 > chip BT878 card, 8 chips allow 240 fps if your machine can handle it. > I've always had problems using more then 4 inputs.. long story, just > makes the machine very unstable. > > Please email the list details when you do get the card. I'd be > interested in trying something else as well, especially if its a 4 or 8 > input/chip model. > > Regards, > -Moses > > |