Re: [mh] Change required for misterhouse.wikispaces.com

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There are just a few other places pointing back to wikispaces.  I vote for
a move to github and will dedicate a couple of hours to formatting if
needed.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Lieven Hollevoet <li...@li...> wrote:

> Hello Carl,
>
> thank you for the offer! I understand and appreciate your reasoning to
> keep the wiki on wikispaces up for another ‘x’ months. On the other hand: I
> think that the fact that we know the wiki would disappear in a month if we
> don’t pay for it will only make the drive to bring up the alternative
> stronger :-)
>
> I do think there are only a few places where we need to change the links
> to the wiki, and we have access to those web pages (the sourceforge site
> can be adapted as far as I know). Once we update the links, then the page
> rank on google will quickly follow and google will also point to the new
> wiki.
>
> So I think I would at least wait some time before actually making the
> payment. If we get the alternative in place on time then I would not
> bother. If we don’t get everything up then it would be useful to extend the
> life of the wiki with at least a few months.
>
> Note: I myself am for sure not the only person who has a voice in this.
> Are there other opinions?
>
> I think that next to the question of we want to pay wikispaces to keep the
> wiki up there are 2 things that still require an answer:
> * what about the ongoing documentation effort that was mentioned earlier
> in this thread?
> * wat locations are there next to the sourceforge website that link to the
> wikispaces wiki?
>
> Kind regards,
> Lieven.
>
> Op 22-sep.-2014, om 18:01 heeft Carl Friedberg <fri...@co...> het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> > Hey Lieven,
> >
> > I replied earlier with my offer to pick up a years worth of the
> wikispaces cost ($50). That still stands.
> >
> > While I am totally in favor of moving the wiki to github, I think it
> could be useful to keep the wikispaces site with a big note on the top
> (this wiki has moved to github, please bookmark the new location), and
> whatever is there now, frozen. After a year, anyone who still lands there
> is not going to be lost, just in need of another google search. Also, it's
> possible that "things happen" will get in the way; no need to have the wiki
> deleted from under us. BTW I have never used it
> >
> > I hope "someone" will make the change to the documentation links when
> needed.
> >
> > If you want me to pick this up, let me know what to do next. I take it I
> will have to open an account, and possibly get some permissions.
> >
> > I'm not anxious to throw away money. Think about this, and if preserving
> the wikispaces site for another year seems worthwhile, I will do it. I
> appreciate how much work everyone has done, especially the last year, and
> this is a way I can pay back. Maybe, someday, I'll actually run MisterHouse
> again. I still have x10 and 1-wire hardware around, though it is getting
> crufty (technical term of art).
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Carl Friedberg
> > www.comets.com
> > car...@co...
> > http://about.me/carl.friedberg
> >
> > From: Lieven Hollevoet [mailto:li...@li...]
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 11:47 AM
> > To: Jim Serack
> > Cc: Carl Friedberg; The main list for the MisterHouse home automation
> program; Timothy Spaulding
> > Subject: Re: [mh] Change required for misterhouse.wikispaces.com
> >
> > Hey Jim,
> >
> > Op 22-sep.-2014, om 17:32 heeft Jim Serack <ji...@se...> het volgende
> geschreven:
> >
> >
> > Does the github wiki offer the same functionality?
> >
> > Depends on what you’re after of course. Github also is a wiki system but
> it is not completely identical to the wikispaces system.
> >
> >
> > ( for example will it have open accessibility?)
> >
> > Yes, more open than wikispaces was. Everybody with a github account is
> currently able to edit the github wiki (
> https://github.com/hollie/misterhouse/wiki). This can be limited, but I’m
> in favor of open access. We haven’t had any problems with this since we
> started the github repo for MisterHouse.
> >
> >
> > Any estimates on the effort to move to github (ie are there pointers in
> MH that would have to change?)
> >
> > That I don’t know, my first attempt would be to try to import the HTML
> dump of the current wikispace wiki into a test wiki on github to see if
> this works. I have no view on what MisterHouse pointer would need to
> change. I do know that the wikispaces page is top on the google hits when
> you search for MisterHouse. So it will take some work to redirect this to
> the new wiki. At least the link to the wiki on
> http://misterhouse.sourceforge.net would need to be changed.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >  Lieven.
> >
> >
> > I would definitely vote for moving the content together.
> >
> > Also – wasn’t someone starting some better documentation workstream – it
> would seem that most of what was on the wiki would be better suited to some
> documentation path anyhow.
> >
> > From: Lieven Hollevoet [mailto:li...@li...]
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:20 AM
> > To: Carl Friedberg
> > Cc: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program; Timothy
> Spaulding; Jim Serack
> > Subject: Re: [mh] Change required for misterhouse.wikispaces.com
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > to give you a size indication: the uncompressed archive of the complete
> wiki is a 17 MB. Of this there are 2 files of 3 MB of which I’m not sure it
> is worth keeping them. So the total size is actually around 10 MB. The
> lowest paid option should suffice.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >  Lieven.
> >
> >
> > Op 22-sep.-2014, om 15:52 heeft Carl Friedberg <fri...@co...>
> het volgende geschreven:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > Do we need 3gb or 5gb? $50/year seems manageable. If that will do it,
> I'll consider sponsoring the first year.
> >
> > Carl Friedberg
> > www.comets.com
> > car...@co...
> > http://about.me/carl.friedberg
> >
> > From: Timothy Spaulding [mailto:spa...@ic...]
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:07 AM
> > To: Jim Serack; 'The main list for the MisterHouse home automation
> program'
> > Subject: Re: [mh] FW: Change required for misterhouse.wikispaces.com
> >
> > I did look in to #2 and the cost is either $5 or $20 a month based on
> one difference I could obviously see—the $20 a month will get you 5gb of
> storage and the $5 is 3GB.
> >
> > If you paid for a full year, it is $50 and $200, respectively.
> >
> > From: Jim Serack [mailto:ji...@se...]
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:44 AM
> > To: Timothy Spaulding; 'The main list for the MisterHouse home
> automation program'
> > Subject: RE: [mh] FW: Change required for misterhouse.wikispaces.com
> >
> > The obvious questions are
> >
> > 1)      What is their definition of “educational” – just it is loose
> enough to catch what we do.
> > 2)      What would be the cost of upgrading? Annual, or multiyear?
> > 3)      What are the alternatives – particularly those associated with
> the source code management?
> > Hopefully “the list” will offer some answers. I did write for the wiki
> but don’t know my password to log in and find the answers to #1, and #2.
> >
> > From: Timothy Spaulding [mailto:spa...@ic...]
> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:44 PM
> > To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program
> > Subject: [mh] FW: Change required for misterhouse.wikispaces.com
> >
> > I received the below today with regards to the misterhouse Wiki.
> >
> > We need to make some sort of decision within 30 days (according to the
> below), but by 11/15 (on the actual site).
> >
> > All ideas are welcome.
> >
> > From: Wikispaces [mailto:do-...@wi...]
> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:55 PM
> > To: Timothy Spaulding
> > Subject: Change required for misterhouse.wikispaces.com
> >
> >
> > misterhouse.wikispaces.com
> > Today we announced on our blog that Wikispaces is no longer offering a
> free wiki option for non-education wikis.
> >
> > misterhouse.wikispaces.com is currently not categorized as an education
> wiki and it is on our free plan. In order for it to remain active, it must
> be categorized as an education wiki or upgraded.
> >
> > We are notifying you, as you are an organizer of this wiki.
> >
> > If you no longer use this wiki, you may ignore this email.
> >
> > Otherwise you may categorize this wiki as an education wiki, pay for
> this wiki, or export the contents of this wiki for use offline or on
> another service. To make your choice please visit the following link:
> >
> > http://misterhouse.wikispaces.com/space/convert
> >
> > If you take no action this wiki will be deleted in no fewer than 30 days.
> >
> > If you have any questions please let us know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > The Wikispaces Team
> >
> > Sent by Wikispaces.com - 165 10th St. Suite 50, San Francisco CA 94103
> >
> >
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