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#2424 Simplification/Infinite sum

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not-a-bug
nobody
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2023-05-04
2012-06-15
No

Enter in Maxima:

simplify_sum(sum(n^2/(2*n)!,n,1,inf));

Maxima returns:

(sqrt(%pi)*(sqrt(2)*bessel_i(3/2,1)+2^(3/2)*bessel_i(1/2,1)))/8

Maxima should return: %e/4

build_info("5.27.0","2012-04-24 08:52:03","i686-pc-mingw32","GNU Common Lisp (GCL)","GCL 2.6.8")

Regards

Chris

Discussion

  • Raymond Toy

    Raymond Toy - 2012-06-15
    • status: open --> pending
     
  • Raymond Toy

    Raymond Toy - 2012-06-15

    expand(exponentialize(ev(%,besselexpand=true)))
    -> %e/4

    I only knew to try this because bessel_i with half integer orders have representations in elementary functions, which you get by setting besselexpand to true.

    Marking as pending/wontfix

     
  • christoph reineke

    • status: pending --> open
     
  • christoph reineke

    Thanks for your help!

    Yes, if you are a specialist, it’s quite simple. If not, you have a problem.
    First you notice that all simplifications in the pull down menu of wx Maxima fail.
    Then you have to read a chapter about Bessel functions until you find “besselexpand”.
    After applying “besselexpand”, Maxima returns a sum of hyperbolic functions.
    Now you need “exponentialize” to get a sum of e functions and finally you see %e/4.

    Why do I have to do all these things?
    If I enter sum(n^2/(2*n)!,n,1,inf) in Wolfram Alpha I immediately get the correct result.

    <marking as pending/wontfix>
    Ok.

    Thanks again

    Chris

     
  • Raymond Toy

    Raymond Toy - 2012-06-20

    I think it's very hard in general to know what the right answer should be. Yes %e/4 is a very simple answer. But sometimes it's also nice to know that the sum can be expressed in terms of bessel_i, which might lead to insight into other similar sums. If maxima simplified to %e/4, you wouldn't know about bessel_i, possibly missing out on the insight.

    But it's also nice to know that maxima can simplify the result to %e/4, for the case where you don't care about the insight. :-)

     
  • Robert Dodier

    Robert Dodier - 2023-05-04
    • labels: Lisp Core - Simplification --> share packages, simplify_sum, simplification
    • status: open --> not-a-bug
    • Group: --> None
     
  • Robert Dodier

    Robert Dodier - 2023-05-04

    Looks like the reported result is correct, although it's clumsy.

    At present, the result is (sinh(1) + cosh(1))/4 which is equivalent to %e/4, and not too much more complicated; ev((sinh(1) + cosh(1))/4, exponentialize); ratsimp(%); yields %e/4. (I agree those steps are kind of clumsy too.)

    Closing this as not-a-bug since the result isn't incorrect, although it could be more concise.

     
    • Stavros Macrakis

      No need for the dangerous ev(il) -- simply ratsimp(exponentialize(...)) works. Actually pretty much any simplification operation will work: ratsimp, factor, expand, rat -- even trigrat.

       

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