From: PCMan <pcm...@gm...> - 2011-10-07 04:14:07
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Multi-monitor support is a long standing issue. Here I'd like to ask everyone. How should a muli-monior desktop bahave? For the desktop panel: 1. one panel per monitor, configured separately 2. one panel exending to the external monitor 3. one panel staying on main monitor, no panel on the external one 4. one panel exending to the external monitor, but have the most important panel applets on the main monitor, and the rest on the external monitor 5. Other possibilities... For the desktop icons manager, options are: 1. icons on main monitor only. 2. some icons on main monitor, others on the external monitors. (Then how to handle icon rearrangement when the external monitor is disconnected?) 3. others... For wallpaper: 1. one wallpaper per monitor 2. one wallpaper extending to all monitors 3. others... Things goes much more complicated since X supports XRandR, Xinerama, other vendor-specific solutions, X11 Display/Screen stuff. Implementation details for them are totally different. So how exactly should a desktop behave and be implemented? What will happen after Wayland is introduced and is widely accepted? We had better have a conclusion on the specifications before anything is going to be implemented. Comments needed. Thanks! On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Julien Lavergne <gi...@ub...> wrote: > Le 10/06/2011 11:18 PM, ohi...@gm... a écrit : > > Sounds great. Will the configuration go back to default when I disconnect > the extra monitor without rebooting or will I need to reconfigure it? Can > you save more than one configuration? > > No, it's not dynamic, you have to do it again if you unplug the monitor. > > Can this kind of functionality be built into the system at some point? > > Yes, it's a goal, but it's still not ready. > > Regards, > Julien Lavergne > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lub...@li... > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > |
From: Gabriel S. <gab...@gm...> - 2011-10-07 11:55:20
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> > For the desktop panel: > 1. one panel per monitor, configured separately > 2. one panel exending to the external monitor > 3. one panel staying on main monitor, no panel on the external one > 4. one panel exending to the external monitor, but have the most > important panel applets on the main monitor, and the rest on the external > monitor > 5. Other possibilities... > I prefer the option 3, because if I'm doing an theater presentation that uses a projector, I don't want any possibility to the audience to see the panel. But should be possible to decide between 2 and 3 > > For the desktop icons manager, options are: > 1. icons on main monitor only. > 2. some icons on main monitor, others on the external monitors. (Then how > to handle icon rearrangement when the external monitor is disconnected?) > 3. others... > I don't really care with those two options... But I would be happy if I could have LxLauncher on one monitor, and a normal wallpaper with normal icons on the other monitor. =D > > For wallpaper: > 1. one wallpaper per monitor > 2. one wallpaper extending to all monitors > 3. others... > > Although is hard to find an extended wallpaper, the "2" is the prettiest =] Atenciosamente, Gabriel Salles |
From: 神癒礁湖 (R. L. <raf...@gm...> - 2011-10-07 12:17:41
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I'd adapt the default wall to dual. Would you use it? El 07/10/2011 13:56, "Gabriel Salles" <gab...@gm...> escribió: > For the desktop panel: >> 1. one panel per monitor, configured separately >> 2. one panel exending to the external monitor >> 3. one panel staying on main monitor, no panel on the external one >> 4. one panel exending to the external monitor, but have the most >> important panel applets on the main monitor, and the rest on the external >> monitor >> 5. Other possibilities... >> > > I prefer the option 3, because if I'm doing an theater presentation that > uses a projector, I don't want any possibility to the audience to see the > panel. But should be possible to decide between 2 and 3 > > >> >> For the desktop icons manager, options are: >> 1. icons on main monitor only. >> 2. some icons on main monitor, others on the external monitors. (Then how >> to handle icon rearrangement when the external monitor is disconnected?) >> 3. others... >> > > I don't really care with those two options... But I would be happy if I > could have LxLauncher on one monitor, and a normal wallpaper with normal > icons on the other monitor. =D > > >> >> For wallpaper: >> 1. one wallpaper per monitor >> 2. one wallpaper extending to all monitors >> 3. others... >> >> > > Although is hard to find an extended wallpaper, the "2" is the prettiest =] > > Atenciosamente, > > Gabriel Salles > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lub...@li... > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > |
From: 神癒礁湖 (R. L. <raf...@gm...> - 2011-10-07 12:21:44
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Interesting feature for the next release. If we have the proper app (like XRandr) it could be included. El 07/10/2011 14:17, "神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna)" <raf...@gm...> escribió: > I'd adapt the default wall to dual. Would you use it? > El 07/10/2011 13:56, "Gabriel Salles" <gab...@gm...> escribió: > >> For the desktop panel: >>> 1. one panel per monitor, configured separately >>> 2. one panel exending to the external monitor >>> 3. one panel staying on main monitor, no panel on the external one >>> 4. one panel exending to the external monitor, but have the most >>> important panel applets on the main monitor, and the rest on the external >>> monitor >>> 5. Other possibilities... >>> >> >> I prefer the option 3, because if I'm doing an theater presentation that >> uses a projector, I don't want any possibility to the audience to see the >> panel. But should be possible to decide between 2 and 3 >> >> >>> >>> For the desktop icons manager, options are: >>> 1. icons on main monitor only. >>> 2. some icons on main monitor, others on the external monitors. (Then how >>> to handle icon rearrangement when the external monitor is disconnected?) >>> 3. others... >>> >> >> I don't really care with those two options... But I would be happy if I >> could have LxLauncher on one monitor, and a normal wallpaper with normal >> icons on the other monitor. =D >> >> >>> >>> For wallpaper: >>> 1. one wallpaper per monitor >>> 2. one wallpaper extending to all monitors >>> 3. others... >>> >>> >> >> Although is hard to find an extended wallpaper, the "2" is the prettiest >> =] >> >> Atenciosamente, >> >> Gabriel Salles >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> Post to : lub...@li... >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> |
From: Alessandro P. <al...@am...> - 2011-10-07 16:46:10
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Il giorno ven, 07/10/2011 alle 12.13 +0800, PCMan ha scritto: > Multi-monitor support is a long standing issue. > Here I'd like to ask everyone. > How should a muli-monior desktop bahave? > I periodically try multimonitor and found nothing that could work well till now. I think multimonitor should behave like this: Selectable main monitor, not always the left-most one (like Gnome and KDE do). Panel on main monitor only, or separated panels with different applets for every monitor. Desktop icons on main monitor only Different workspaces (I should stay on workspace 1 on monitor 1 when I switch to workspace 3 on monitor 2, for example). I should even be able to select a different number of workspaces (for example 10 on the main monitor and 4 on the secondaries) I should be able to move windows between monitors, but not have half a window on one and half on the other. This should have the "side effect" that when I "push" a window to a border but the pointer doesn't go over the border, the window should resize to occupy half screen on that border (like KDE4 and Gnome3) When I launch an app it should open on the monitor with the pointer There should be a keyboard shortcut (ctrl-tab?) to immediately move the mouse pointer on another monitor (and select the top-most application on that monitor), about on the same relative location (if monitors have different resolutions). This should ease multimonitor use without touching the mouse, useful particularly on notebooks. Keyboard shortcuts should be the same for both monitors (with a single configuration UI) When making a window full-screen it should extend on its monitor and not on the other I don't care about backgrounds, I seldom see them :), but I think they should be configurable separately. I think this maybe mimics something like "workspaces of workspaces". -- Alessandro Pellizzari |
From: Gabriel S. <gab...@gm...> - 2011-10-07 16:52:35
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> > Different workspaces (I should stay on workspace 1 on monitor 1 when I > switch to workspace 3 on monitor 2, for example). I should even be able > to select a different number of workspaces (for example 10 on the main > monitor and 4 on the secondaries) > +1 > > When I launch an app it should open on the monitor with the pointer > +1 |
From: Stephan S. <gma...@sp...> - 2011-10-07 17:04:52
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On 07/10/11 12:52 PM, Gabriel Salles wrote: > Different workspaces (I should stay on workspace 1 on monitor 1 when I > switch to workspace 3 on monitor 2, for example). I should even be able > to select a different number of workspaces (for example 10 on the main > monitor and 4 on the secondaries) > > +1 > > > When I launch an app it should open on the monitor with the pointer > > +1 > I can't be 100% certain about Lubuntu, being a Gentoo user, but LXDE already has the latter. Openbox Configuration Manager > Windows > "Prefer to place new windows on: The monitor with the mouse" Looking at the raw config file actually shows two separate ways to accomplish that which aren't obviously distinct in the GUI. You can either use <policy>Smart</policy> and <monitor>Mouse</monitor> (what the above does) or you can use <policy>UnderMouse</policy> (The "Place new windows under the mouse pointer" checkbox in obconf) The difference is that the latter will try to center new windows under the mouse cursor while the former will apply other policies (eg. "center new windows when they are placed") but constrain them to the monitor the mouse currently occupies. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > |
From: Радик Ю. <ra...@ya...> - 2011-10-13 17:59:55
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07.10.2011 20:52, Gabriel Salles пишет: > > Different workspaces (I should stay on workspace 1 on monitor 1 when I > switch to workspace 3 on monitor 2, for example). I should even be > able > to select a different number of workspaces (for example 10 on the main > monitor and 4 on the secondaries) > > +1 > > > When I launch an app it should open on the monitor with the pointer > > +1 +1 Please note this patch: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3397801&group_id=180858&atid=894871 It's work. -- ALTLinux Team My project: http://lxdesktop.altlinux.org |
From: Stephan S. <gma...@sp...> - 2011-10-07 04:37:03
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I actually use a dual-monitor LXDE desktop in my day-to-day life, but it's a desktop and I've got two identical monitors. (Their serial numbers are only two increments apart, actually) I'll share what it's important to me, though, in the hopes that I don't later end up having to ditch lxpanel or stay on an old version to flee changes benefiting only asymmetric setups. 1. I like it that my main panel extends across both screens and doesn't impose any "smart" behaviours on how my applets are positioned. (In fact, the spanning is something I cursed at KDE 4 for removing in the switch from Kicker to Plasma back before I ditched it.) 2. I have desktop icons turned off, but back when I didn't, I wanted full freedom to position icons anywhere. My main concern was making sure that, when a game shut off one monitor and changed the resolution on the other, even if the game crashed, the "don't let icons get lost" functionality would only kick in on session start so I didn't need to fear and then curse the desktop icon manager for destroying my careful icon grouping before I could manually reset the monitor modes. 3. Wallpaper is actually something I've already had to turn to an external tool (Nitrogen) for because PCManFM didn't support any of the modes I used last I checked. KDE (especially KDE 3.x) spoiled me for choice and the images I use tend to require either "one image for the entire desktop" or "scale to fill the monitor, letting one dimension extend beyond it if necessary, then crop to fit and replicate to both monitors". On 07/10/11 12:13 AM, PCMan wrote: > Multi-monitor support is a long standing issue. > Here I'd like to ask everyone. > How should a muli-monior desktop bahave? > For the desktop panel: > 1. one panel per monitor, configured separately > 2. one panel exending to the external monitor > 3. one panel staying on main monitor, no panel on the external one > 4. one panel exending to the external monitor, but have the most > important panel applets on the main monitor, and the rest on the > external monitor > 5. Other possibilities... > > For the desktop icons manager, options are: > 1. icons on main monitor only. > 2. some icons on main monitor, others on the external monitors. (Then > how to handle icon rearrangement when the external monitor is disconnected?) > 3. others... > > For wallpaper: > 1. one wallpaper per monitor > 2. one wallpaper extending to all monitors > 3. others... > > Things goes much more complicated since X supports XRandR, Xinerama, > other vendor-specific solutions, X11 Display/Screen stuff. > Implementation details for them are totally different. So how exactly > should a desktop behave and be implemented? What will happen after > Wayland is introduced and is widely accepted? > We had better have a conclusion on the specifications before anything is > going to be implemented. Comments needed. Thanks! > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Julien Lavergne <gi...@ub... > <mailto:gi...@ub...>> wrote: > > Le 10/06/2011 11:18 PM, ohi...@gm... > <mailto:ohi...@gm...> a écrit : >> Sounds great. Will the configuration go back to default when I >> disconnect the extra monitor without rebooting or will I need to >> reconfigure it? Can you save more than one configuration? > No, it's not dynamic, you have to do it again if you unplug the > monitor. > >> Can this kind of functionality be built into the system at some point? > Yes, it's a goal, but it's still not ready. > > Regards, > Julien Lavergne > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lub...@li... > <mailto:lub...@li...> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > |
From: Todd S. <sch...@gm...> - 2011-10-07 14:03:05
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:13 AM, PCMan <pcm...@gm...> wrote: > Multi-monitor support is a long standing issue. > Here I'd like to ask everyone. > How should a muli-monior desktop bahave? > For the desktop panel: > 1. one panel per monitor, configured separately > 2. one panel exending to the external monitor > 3. one panel staying on main monitor, no panel on the external one > 4. one panel exending to the external monitor, but have the most > important panel applets on the main monitor, and the rest on the external > monitor > 5. Other possibilities... > > For the desktop icons manager, options are: > 1. icons on main monitor only. > 2. some icons on main monitor, others on the external monitors. (Then how > to handle icon rearrangement when the external monitor is disconnected?) > 3. others... > > For wallpaper: > 1. one wallpaper per monitor > 2. one wallpaper extending to all monitors > 3. others... > > Things goes much more complicated since X supports XRandR, Xinerama, other > vendor-specific solutions, X11 Display/Screen stuff. Implementation details > for them are totally different. So how exactly should a desktop behave and > be implemented? What will happen after Wayland is introduced and is widely > accepted? > We had better have a conclusion on the specifications before anything is > going to be implemented. Comments needed. Thanks! > In my setup, I prefer: One panel on main monitor, none on secondary OR mirrored panels on both. Icons on main monitor only (actually, I prefer a clean desktop with no icons other than mounted devices). One wallpaper per monitor, configurable. xrandr works comfortably for me. |
From: Julien L. <gi...@ub...> - 2011-10-08 10:08:25
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Le 10/07/2011 06:13 AM, PCMan a écrit : > For the desktop panel: > 1. one panel per monitor, configured separately > 2. one panel exending to the external monitor > 3. one panel staying on main monitor, no panel on the external one > 4. one panel exending to the external monitor, but have the most > important panel applets on the main monitor, and the rest on the > external monitor > 5. Other possibilities... > > For the desktop icons manager, options are: > 1. icons on main monitor only. > 2. some icons on main monitor, others on the external monitors. (Then > how to handle icon rearrangement when the external monitor is > disconnected?) > 3. others... > > For wallpaper: > 1. one wallpaper per monitor > 2. one wallpaper extending to all monitors > 3. others... I think it's a good idea to collect usages of dual monitor users first. For example, I use dual monitors on a desktop computer like this : - I have one main screen, where I mainly works and stay focus on it. - I expect to have on this main screen the panel and the icons - I doesn't matter where is the wallpaper :) - I don't plan to plug and unplug my monitors :) But, when you use it as a laptop user, it's probably different (presentation, frequently plug and unplug ...). Regards, Julien |