From: Robert A. <rob...@gm...> - 2010-08-16 07:24:23
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Hi, You may or may not be aware of my project to create a new display manager, LightDM [1]. The project is in an alpha state where I can run LightDM as my display manager, but it needs more work. If you are interested, I am actively interested in supporting the LXDE project in getting LightDM working well. I will also be proposing LightDM for use in Ubuntu in Maverick+1 and GNOME in 3.0. What I need from you: - Feedback! - Tell me what features LXDE needs. - How to fit in with the LXDE release schedule. - Keep bugging me until all the roadblocks are gone. You can send me an email every day if you like with the list of bugs that are stopping it from working in LXDE. :) [1] https://launchpad.net/lightdm |
From: Martin B. / b. <br...@bs...> - 2010-08-16 07:49:07
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On 2010-08-16 09:24, Robert Ancell wrote: > You may or may not be aware of my project to create a new display > manager, LightDM [1]. The project is in an alpha state where I can > run LightDM as my display manager, but it needs more work. Interesting! I hope someone working on LXDM will cooperate with you. > - How to fit in with the LXDE release schedule. it will fit. We have independent releases for all components that has no dependencies. Component A can be dependent on component C and they will be coordinated but component B is completely stand alone and will be released when done. -- brother http://sis.bthstudent.se |
From: Robert A. <rob...@gm...> - 2010-08-16 07:34:22
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I forgot to mention LXDM! I am very interested on comparing how LXDM and LightDM work and what the experiences were with LXDE rolling out a new display manager. On 16 August 2010 17:30, Martin Bagge / brother <br...@bs...> wrote: > On 2010-08-16 09:24, Robert Ancell wrote: >> You may or may not be aware of my project to create a new display >> manager, LightDM [1]. The project is in an alpha state where I can >> run LightDM as my display manager, but it needs more work. > > Interesting! I hope someone working on LXDM will cooperate with you. > >> - How to fit in with the LXDE release schedule. > > it will fit. We have independent releases for all components that has no > dependencies. Component A can be dependent on component C and they will > be coordinated but component B is completely stand alone and will be > released when done. > > -- > brother > http://sis.bthstudent.se > |
From: PCMan <pcm...@gm...> - 2010-08-16 07:56:20
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Hello, Earlier I already did a brief review of your project and I'm intersted in making a greeter later. It's great that you already have a nice greeter library to help the development and have it documented. I'll test your code later. Thank you very much for the information and I'm quite interested. IIRC I read something about webkit-based greeter. If it's optional, that's ok. However if it's the default, that's not cool for a lightweight app. Best regards On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Robert Ancell <rob...@gm...> wrote: > Hi, > > You may or may not be aware of my project to create a new display > manager, LightDM [1]. The project is in an alpha state where I can > run LightDM as my display manager, but it needs more work. > > If you are interested, I am actively interested in supporting the LXDE > project in getting LightDM working well. I will also be proposing > LightDM for use in Ubuntu in Maverick+1 and GNOME in 3.0. > > What I need from you: > - Feedback! > - Tell me what features LXDE needs. > - How to fit in with the LXDE release schedule. > - Keep bugging me until all the roadblocks are gone. You can send me > an email every day if you like with the list of bugs that are stopping > it from working in LXDE. :) > > [1] https://launchpad.net/lightdm > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by > > Make an app they can't live without > Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge > http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Lxde-list mailing list > Lxd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list > |
From: Robert A. <rob...@gm...> - 2010-08-16 09:29:29
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> IIRC I read something about webkit-based greeter. If it's optional, that's ok. > However if it's the default, that's not cool for a lightweight app. The webkit greeter is optional. It is currently always compiled in the source code, but that should be fixed. You can run without a greeter if required so it can be used like uxlaunch is currently. |
From: Andrea F. <an...@op...> - 2010-08-16 08:31:35
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 did you never thought to merge lxdm and lightdm? it would be a nice opportunity to write a rock login manager using both of the quality code, instead to replace the work that has been already started. my 2 cents Andrea Il 16/08/2010 09:56, PCMan ha scritto: > Hello, > Earlier I already did a brief review of your project and I'm intersted > in making a greeter later. > It's great that you already have a nice greeter library to help the > development and have it documented. > I'll test your code later. > Thank you very much for the information and I'm quite interested. > > IIRC I read something about webkit-based greeter. If it's optional, that's ok. > However if it's the default, that's not cool for a lightweight app. > > Best regards > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Robert Ancell <rob...@gm...> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> You may or may not be aware of my project to create a new display >> manager, LightDM [1]. The project is in an alpha state where I can >> run LightDM as my display manager, but it needs more work. >> >> If you are interested, I am actively interested in supporting the LXDE >> project in getting LightDM working well. I will also be proposing >> LightDM for use in Ubuntu in Maverick+1 and GNOME in 3.0. >> >> What I need from you: >> - Feedback! >> - Tell me what features LXDE needs. >> - How to fit in with the LXDE release schedule. >> - Keep bugging me until all the roadblocks are gone. You can send me >> an email every day if you like with the list of bugs that are stopping >> it from working in LXDE. :) >> >> [1] https://launchpad.net/lightdm >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> This SF.net email is sponsored by >> >> Make an app they can't live without >> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Lxde-list mailing list >> Lxd...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by > > Make an app they can't live without > Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge > http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Lxde-list mailing list > Lxd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list > - -- - ------------------------------------------ Andrea Florio QSI International School of Brindisi Sys Admin CISCO CCNA Certified openSUSE-Education Administrator openSUSE-LXDE Administrator openSUSE Official Member (anubisg1) Email: an...@op... Packman Packaging Team Email: an...@li... Cell: +39-328-7365667 - ------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxo+HYACgkQyCZT87TFPuhnEACg2m6NEGrhJHmJQ4E7/7/6sBSK M8IAn3WNQgJT5FfgPMJppjkME7Fd5y1G =dx/0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: PCMan <pcm...@gm...> - 2010-08-16 08:58:43
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I don't think it's possible to merge them. A good example why it's not practical is, do you think it's possible to merge OpenSuSE and Debian? Shouldn't this create one rock LInux distro? Or Try to merge nautilus and thunar? The structures and design of them are totally different so merging is basically not possible. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Andrea Florio <an...@op...> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > did you never thought to merge lxdm and lightdm? > > it would be a nice opportunity to write a rock login manager using both > of the quality code, instead to replace the work that has been already > started. > > my 2 cents > Andrea > > Il 16/08/2010 09:56, PCMan ha scritto: >> Hello, >> Earlier I already did a brief review of your project and I'm intersted >> in making a greeter later. >> It's great that you already have a nice greeter library to help the >> development and have it documented. >> I'll test your code later. >> Thank you very much for the information and I'm quite interested. >> >> IIRC I read something about webkit-based greeter. If it's optional, that's ok. >> However if it's the default, that's not cool for a lightweight app. >> >> Best regards >> >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Robert Ancell <rob...@gm...> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> You may or may not be aware of my project to create a new display >>> manager, LightDM [1]. The project is in an alpha state where I can >>> run LightDM as my display manager, but it needs more work. >>> >>> If you are interested, I am actively interested in supporting the LXDE >>> project in getting LightDM working well. I will also be proposing >>> LightDM for use in Ubuntu in Maverick+1 and GNOME in 3.0. >>> >>> What I need from you: >>> - Feedback! >>> - Tell me what features LXDE needs. >>> - How to fit in with the LXDE release schedule. >>> - Keep bugging me until all the roadblocks are gone. You can send me >>> an email every day if you like with the list of bugs that are stopping >>> it from working in LXDE. :) >>> >>> [1] https://launchpad.net/lightdm >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by >>> >>> Make an app they can't live without >>> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Lxde-list mailing list >>> Lxd...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> This SF.net email is sponsored by >> >> Make an app they can't live without >> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Lxde-list mailing list >> Lxd...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list >> > > > - -- > - ------------------------------------------ > Andrea Florio > QSI International School of Brindisi Sys Admin > CISCO CCNA Certified > openSUSE-Education Administrator > openSUSE-LXDE Administrator > openSUSE Official Member (anubisg1) > Email: an...@op... > Packman Packaging Team > Email: an...@li... > Cell: +39-328-7365667 > - ------------------------------------------ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkxo+HYACgkQyCZT87TFPuhnEACg2m6NEGrhJHmJQ4E7/7/6sBSK > M8IAn3WNQgJT5FfgPMJppjkME7Fd5y1G > =dx/0 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > |
From: Robert A. <rob...@gm...> - 2010-08-16 09:33:44
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> did you never thought to merge lxdm and lightdm? I looked at extending lxdm early in the project, however lxdm was designed for a narrower set of requirements and I decided to pursue a new architecture. Note that the GUI component of lxdm would probably be relatively easy to port to lightdm. (The GUI side of lightdm is very basic currently. I am focusing on building a strong foundation so various projects can build their own GUIs). |
From: Marty J. <mar...@co...> - 2010-08-16 12:41:20
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I am still confused. Is the answer "if you have a greeter, it is Webkit based, but you can run without a greeter" and "The only option if you have a greeter is that it is Webkit based". If that's the case, then my opinion would be, while you may have a very fine product that you should continue developing, the greeter is much, much too heavy to be considered for LXDE. May I take this opportunity to say the way that LXDM uses a Builder file as part of the theme is an excellent stroke of insight into a very nice way to do it. On 08/16/2010 05:29 AM, Robert Ancell wrote: >> IIRC I read something about webkit-based greeter. If it's optional, that's ok. >> However if it's the default, that's not cool for a lightweight app. > > The webkit greeter is optional. It is currently always compiled in > the source code, but that should be fixed. You can run without a > greeter if required so it can be used like uxlaunch is currently. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by > > Make an app they can't live without > Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge > http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Lxde-list mailing list > Lxd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list > |
From: Robert A. <rob...@gm...> - 2010-08-16 13:32:54
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> I am still confused. > > Is the answer "if you have a greeter, it is Webkit based, but you can run without a greeter" > and > "The only option if you have a greeter is that it is Webkit based". There is a greeter interface [1], and two example greeters are provided in the source code (GTK+ and WebKitGTK+). I envision people writing themes easily using the WebKit greeter, using the GTK+ greeter when they want fast performance and writing new greeters when they have special requirements (e.g. a clutter based greeter). The idea is that it should be no harder to write a greeter than any other desktop application. [1] http://people.ubuntu.com/~robert-ancell/lightdm/reference/ |
From: Andrew L. <aj...@de...> - 2010-08-18 02:48:13
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On 2010年08月16日 03:24, Robert Ancell wrote: > You may or may not be aware of my project to create a new display > manager, LightDM [1]. The project is in an alpha state where I can > run LightDM as my display manager, but it needs more work. Interesting. > If you are interested, I am actively interested in supporting the LXDE > project in getting LightDM working well. I will also be proposing > LightDM for use in Ubuntu in Maverick+1 and GNOME in 3.0. > > What I need from you: > - Feedback! > - Tell me what features LXDE needs. Cool! We need user switch support which would work together with lxsession-logout! Cheers, -Andrew |
From: Robert A. <rob...@gm...> - 2010-08-18 05:57:08
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>> What I need from you: >> - Feedback! >> - Tell me what features LXDE needs. > > Cool! We need user switch support which would work together with > lxsession-logout! Sure thing: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/619647 |