Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP FAT Client & thin client problem

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HI there .. sorry for delay

@ P Knight

Yes .. I know the option -fat-client
but if i do .. then the program heekscnc reside in the chroot
and the execution start on the client ( with less cpu power)
and not in the server side ( with more cpu power ).

and anyway .. if i compile a program from source on the server....

@ Alkis Georgopoulos

YYYYES !!

I had noticed that command scrolling /usr/bin directory (in chroot).
and tried to run it without any luck.
I did not find documentation as lts.conf

Thanks for telling me how to activate the command.

2011/12/11 P Knight <pdk...@gm...>

> Hi
> If you use the --fat-client option when you build the image, it should
> include all the applications that are installed on the server without you
> have to worry about it.
> Checkout the command ltsp-build-client --extra-help as well.
> Peter
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:34 PM, luca predari <lux...@gm...>wrote:
>
>> HI P Knight
>>
>> so...
>>
>> the problem with vlc and in general with LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS = vlc
>> is solved.
>> the problem was that i log in in the thin client with the same user who
>> is on the server.
>> was enough to create a new user and login from thin clients
>> and everything 'went ok.
>>
>> second problem ..
>> i have a ion machine. zotac 2 core atom with 2GB ram
>> I think it is a good solution for a fat client.
>>
>> but ..  there is a program ..  a cad cam program ( heekscad )
>> that  uses a lot of CPU power when make a job.
>> and a 2core atom il too bad for these,
>> imho would be better to use the power of the server CPU
>>
>> but if i make a fat client .. the program, heekscad, rightly disappearsfrom the menu
>> because
>> is not in the chroot.
>>
>> then asked if there was a way to invoke the heekscad from fatclient
>> to the server....
>>
>> otherwise ok ... I leave everything in thinclient, and only move a few
>> things in chroot
>> and do the localapps ( ltsp-localapps nameprograminchroot)
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/12/10 P Knight <pdk...@gm...>
>>
>>> 2 hours later while I have been watching the X factor on TV, I have been
>>> thinking about my last answer.
>>> I want to step back from that answer and go back to what it's all
>>> about.( If i'm wrong , someone out there please correct me)
>>> If you want to run a fat client, the clients should have at least 1GB
>>> memory. 2GB would be better.
>>> The more memory the client has the more it will relieve the server.
>>> A thin client is used when the user cannot afford memory and the server
>>> takes all the load.
>>> For me a local app is used when you need to run an application that uses
>>> a resource that cannot be shared. e.g.twinkle need to have it's own port
>>> and unless run as a local app will not work. on more than one client.
>>> A local app would probably be in order for a thin client of say 500mb
>>> where you could run the browser as a local app.
>>> I think you should forget about trying to solve running this big app as
>>> a separate issue. Just build a fat client and let the ltsp do the job it
>>> was designed to do.
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 4:30 PM, luca predari <lux...@gm...>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi there
>>>>
>>>> I need to create a fat client that gives me the opportunity
>>>> of run 1 program on the server.
>>>> while the rest is handled well by my client ion,
>>>> a program is heavy and I want to go on the server.
>>>>
>>>> so....It seems to reverse the operation plays ltsp-localapps.
>>>>
>>>> How can I do?
>>>> I would like to make a fat client ..
>>>> but then how do I go to that program only on the server?
>>>>
>>>> I'm running ubuntu natty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> second question
>>>>
>>>> I tried to install vlc as local applications.
>>>> Then I put in lts.conf:
>>>>
>>>> [default]
>>>> SYSLOG_HOST = 192.168.0.254 #
>>>> CONFIGURE_X = True
>>>> X_CONF = / etc/X11/xorg.conf
>>>> XkbLayout = en
>>>> # Ldm = SCREEN_07
>>>>
>>>> # LDM_DIRECTX = True allows Greater scalability and performance
>>>> # Turn this off if you want Greater security instead.
>>>> LDM_DIRECTX = True
>>>> NETWORK_COMPRESSION = True
>>>>
>>>> # LDM_SYSLOG = True writes to server's syslog
>>>> LDM_SYSLOG = True
>>>> LOCAL_APPS_EXTRAMOUNTS = / media / opt
>>>>
>>>> LOCAL_APPS = true
>>>> LOCAL_APPS_MENU = True
>>>> LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS = vlc
>>>>
>>>> Then I did an upgrade of chroot
>>>> I rebooted and everything.
>>>>
>>>> the menu of the client regarding vlc has not changed.
>>>> if i use ltsp-localapps vlc works ok.
>>>> why not 'changed the menu?
>>>>
>>>> If I have to write LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS = "vlc" and not vlc without a
>>>> "" ?
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>
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> Peter D Knight
> 22 Westfort Rd
> Houtbay
> 7806
> +27(21)7903579
>
>
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> Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for
> developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it
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> Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure
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