Re: [Jython-dev] JVM Expert Group for Dynamic Scripting Languages

[Frank C. <fc...@pu...>]

Hi Sean: Gilad brought up the meeting and was somewhat snide about =20
Jython by indicating there was no strong JVM representation for =20
Jython at that meeting. The best we can expect from Gilad is to have =20
Samuel rationalize Gilad's changes to the VM and make sure these =20
changes don't stop some change in a later Jython. -Frank





On Sep 29, 2005, at 5:06 AM, Sean McGrath wrote:

> Gilad was at the meeting organised by Tim Bray in Sun to do with =20
> Dynamic Languages
> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2004/12/08/DynamicJava
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> Sean
>
>
> Luis S=E9rgio Oliveira wrote:
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>> Hi Frank,
>>
>> as much as I look I can't find the weblog of Mr Bracha. Isn't it =20
>> Gilad Bracha? I've found his web site: http://bracha.org/, but, =20
>> nothing there about Sun intentions on Java support for dynamic =20
>> languages...
>>
>> There are two important signs from Sun:
>> * http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=3D223 - JSR 223: Scripting for =20
>> the  JavaTM Platform
>> * https://coyote.dev.java.net/ - java's dynamic language support =20
>> in  NetBeans (currently Jython and Groovy)
>>
>> What is invokedynamic? --> herr, google provides answer: http://=20
>> www.jaoo.org/speakers/show_speaker.jsp?oid=3D71 http://=20
>> blogs.msdn.com/cyrusn/archive/2005/06/29/433933.aspx
>>
>> Yeap, this would make life easier to Jython developers.
>>
>> Best regards / Beste Gr=FC=DFe / Cumprimentos,
>>
>> Luis Sergio Oliveira
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jyt...@li... [mailto:jython-dev-=20
>> ad...@li...] On Behalf Of Frank Cohen
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>> To: jyt...@li...
>> Subject: [Jython-dev] JVM Expert Group for Dynamic Scripting =20
>> Languages
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>>
>> "Giland Bracha", http://java.sun.com/people/gracha made a  =20
>> presentation at the 'JAOO conference", http://www.jaoo.org on =20
>> changes  Sun wants to make to the Java Virtual Machine (JVM) to =20
>> encourage and  support scripting language projects (Jython, =20
>> Groovy, Ruby,  ECMAScript) running on the JVM. Giland has a funny =20
>> wit to his  presentation style and left me with the impression =20
>> that he is the  only one at Sun assigned to this task. "If he is =20
>> the only one then he  is the best choice," remarked Jim Hugunin. =20
>> Giland reports that he  will take invokedynamic and other =20
>> extensions to the JVM through the  Java Community Process (JCP) =20
>> and that he is looking for people to be  part of the experts =20
>> group. I'm willing to participate but I'm not a  VM guy. I told =20
>> Giland that I would search for someone to volunteer  for the =20
>> Jython effort. Any ideas?
>>
>> -Frank
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